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I have taken 8mgs of ephedrine with piracetam (just yesterday), and I was overwhelmed with how much energy/euphoria it gave me during my day! As someone who is essentially immune to every day stimulants, it's pretty amazing how much it potentiates amphetamines including caffeine.
 
I have taken 8mgs of ephedrine with piracetam (just yesterday), and I was overwhelmed with how much energy/euphoria it gave me during my day! As someone who is essentially immune to every day stimulants, it's pretty amazing how much it potentiates amphetamines including caffeine.
Considering I've fallen asleep every time I've taken vyvanse, I might have to try this out.
 
i decided to maintain my 800mg daily routine for the time being, just to make sure im good and saturated. i may up it to 1600mg after DEMF...

still havent tried drinking more than a beer at a time, but tonight im going out with some friends so we shall see what happens with several drinks.

i have a question for youse guys... i do plan on rolling at DEMF next weekend, prolly a day roll. should i take my normal dosage in the "morning"(lol i wake at noon) and then another in the hour or so before i dose, take my normal morning tablet and leave it at that, or hold off on it till the hour before?
 
The biggest harm reduction strategy regarding ecstasy is: STAY COOL.

From pubmed: "Surprisingly, MDMA-induced DA terminal loss was only observed in animals housed at warm but not at room temperature."

That means dancing for hours on end in a hot warehouse on E is not a good harm reduction strategy. But some of you are going to do this anyway. If you must... DO SMOKE POT.

From pubmed: "Surprisingly, MDMA-induced DA terminal loss was only observed in animals housed at warm but not at room temperature, and this neurotoxic effect was reversed by THC administration."

(Don't forget your preload of selegiline and ALCAR, and your Alpha Lipoic Acid before, during, and after the roll, 100mgs 6 times a day for 48 hours. Post load with selegiline or an SSRI too.)
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HC Prevents MDMA Neurotoxicity in Mice.
Touriño C, Zimmer A, Valverde O.

Departament de Ciències Experimentals i de la Salut, Grup de Recerca en Neurobiologia del Comportament (GRNC), Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, Spain. [email protected]
Abstract
The majority of MDMA (ecstasy) recreational users also consume cannabis. Despite the rewarding effects that both drugs have, they induce several opposite pharmacological responses. MDMA causes hyperthermia, oxidative stress and neuronal damage, especially at warm ambient temperature. However, THC, the main psychoactive compound of cannabis, produces hypothermic, anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects. Therefore, THC may have a neuroprotective effect against MDMA-induced neurotoxicity. Mice receiving a neurotoxic regimen of MDMA (20 mg/kg x 4) were pretreated with THC (3 mg/kg x 4) at room (21 degrees C) and at warm (26 degrees C) temperature, and body temperature, striatal glial activation and DA terminal loss were assessed. To find out the mechanisms by which THC may prevent MDMA hyperthermia and neurotoxicity, the same procedure was carried out in animals pretreated with the CB(1) receptor antagonist AM251 and the CB(2) receptor antagonist AM630, as well as in CB(1), CB(2) and CB(1)/CB(2) deficient mice. THC prevented MDMA-induced-hyperthermia and glial activation in animals housed at both room and warm temperature. Surprisingly, MDMA-induced DA terminal loss was only observed in animals housed at warm but not at room temperature, and this neurotoxic effect was reversed by THC administration. However, THC did not prevent MDMA-induced hyperthermia, glial activation, and DA terminal loss in animals treated with the CB(1) receptor antagonist AM251, neither in CB(1) and CB(1)/CB(2) knockout mice. On the other hand, THC prevented MDMA-induced hyperthermia and DA terminal loss, but only partially suppressed glial activation in animals treated with the CB(2) cannabinoid antagonist and in CB(2) knockout animals. Our results indicate that THC protects against MDMA neurotoxicity, and suggest that these neuroprotective actions are primarily mediated by the reduction of hyperthermia through the activation of CB(1) receptor, although CB(2) receptors may also contribute to attenuate neuroinflammation in this process.
 
This is a great thread! Thanks for posting!

I am having a hard time finding Magnesium Chelate that doesnt have any added crap in it. Will one of these work?

http://www.vitacost.com/Carlson-Chelated-Magnesium

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Magnesium-Citrate

thanks!!!!! =D

I recommend Magnesium Lactate. Bioavailability varies a lot between forms of Mg, which I guess you know since you're looking for a chelate.

Mg Lactate is well absorbed. Stomach pH has very little influence.
 
I'd like to see credentials of the person who compiled this list. And also their sources. Thanks.
 
Wow.

As far as vitamins go, I take Ultra Man vitamins from Vitamin World.
http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?PID=484&CID=34&CPID=2

This stuff has everything from Amino Acids (including ALA), All essential vitamins and minerals, Herbs such as Ginko Biloba, Green Tea, etc. Seems like a very well rounded multi.

On top of my one multivitamin I take EPA/DHA fish oil supplements, I eat healthy (try to eat lots of Turkey after roll), and I take 5-HTP nightly for a week after I roll (not the day before, though).

I can't think of anything else I'd need. :)

Weekly rolls have yet to impact memory, depression... I basically have no side effects from X. I don't plan on rolling weekly for an extended period, just having my "fun" before I have to get out into the real world. :)
 
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Such a good thread!
Anybody had much experience with dosing ALCAR and/or ALA on the day of rolling?

Anybody care to post the regime's?

When i took r-ala the before i rolled i felt like it totally killed my roll. I've heard of other people feeling the same way, but i have no idea why thats the case. I think i took 200mg of rala... i usually take that for a few days after i roll. i was taking alcar after too but might not do that anymore lol
 
Is it safe to take Quercetin with MDMA?

I have always been taught to steer clear of MAOI's or anything that can potentiate its effects. Usually an increase in the positive effects of MDMA's positive effects also means an increase in MDMA's negative effects (ie. increased blood pressure, etc)...
 
How long before mdma usage is good to start taking magnesium daily? I'm trying to reduce my tolerance for the next time I drop.
 
Is it safe to take Quercetin with MDMA?

I have always been taught to steer clear of MAOI's or anything that can potentiate its effects. Usually an increase in the positive effects of MDMA's positive effects also means an increase in MDMA's negative effects (ie. increased blood pressure, etc)...

I took a whole gram of quercetin trying to potentiate MDMA, and I was totally fine. Didn't really roll that hard, but probably because I only took 100mg with a big tolerance.

I also think Piracetam beats that rule...heard much of it bringing the positive out more while easing the negative.
 
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