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From someone who has tried the mix, I can say that i felt the effects of piracetam more in the weeks preceding than on the actual night of the roll. That being said, If you are someone whose mind speeds up from caffiene but even more so from MDMA, then you are going to feel like a freakin genius when you mix MDMA and piracetam.

I say at least try it....
 
It's hard to not be optimistic considering I still feel amazing hours after that post :) ....but, I want to keep my expectations in check and go into my next MDMA experience without expectations or extreme excitement.
 
Personally I am really, really exited for when I mix MDMA and piracetam for the first time. I've wanted to try it for a while and I haven't motivated on it yet.
 
Bsiren said:
Disclaimer: have NOT combined with MDMA yet


I've been taking piracetam for 4 days now, and had a small cup of coffee that feels like I'm on time released cocaine (lol) and to give you an idea, caffeine hadn't "wired" me in about 10 years...I've abuse it for years.

The only factor is the piracetam, I have nothing else new in my system. I could see how some people experience a "virgin" roll again, but that's merely a hypothesis based on how it's returned my caffeine response to virginesque territory...I also acknowledge many people aren't impressed with piracetam, and everyones response is unique.
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You know the times I've used piracetam, I would love those coffee rushes. BUT, when I used it with mdma my body high was pretty weak. I'm wondering if I depleted some dopamine using it with coffee everyday prior.

It will be hard but I think I'll ween myself off coffee, then use piracetam for the week prior (and avoiding all other stimulants of course) and I think it will work a lot better with mdma (for me anyway).
 
bsiren- what dosage, frequency?

if we are gonna make an informal study lets take some notes.

my batch arrived monday and ive been taking 800mg daily, along with a b-complex (it has 150mg choline but turns my urine bright neon yellow lol).

ive noticed some slight caffeine boosting, like you i developed a strong tolerance years ago. other than that things have seemed a bit less foggy, but that could also be because i have changed my sleep pattern to one that seems to work better for me.

my plan is to up my dosage next week to 1600mg daily, split between two doses over the course of the day.

i plan on rolling at demf, and since i dont roll often i have a fresh brain to experiment on :)
 
i find it works best to take a small capful (like the size of a chapstick cap) of piracetam about 3-5 hours before you roll.

i've also taken it at the same time as rolls and have not noticed a huge difference but it still does potentiate the roll and make you feel great! it also seems to make you shit. but that happens no matter when you take the stuff, and it's not a problem throughout the hole night or anything. haha.
 
I'm taking 800 mg once a day in the morning- it's been 5 mornings now. Also alcohol affects me in a stronger manner too....choline gives you neon urine? LOL! Whats the purpose of the choline with it?

Glad you have a fresh brain friend! =) I rolled on April 17th, so EDC will make it just over 2 months. Not exactly fresh myself, but not horrible either...

exarkann said:
bsiren- what dosage, frequency?

if we are gonna make an informal study lets take some notes.

my batch arrived monday and ive been taking 800mg daily, along with a b-complex (it has 150mg choline but turns my urine bright neon yellow lol).

ive noticed some slight caffeine boosting, like you i developed a strong tolerance years ago. other than that things have seemed a bit less foggy, but that could also be because i have changed my sleep pattern to one that seems to work better for me.

my plan is to up my dosage next week to 1600mg daily, split between two doses over the course of the day.

i plan on rolling at demf, and since i dont roll often i have a fresh brain to experiment on :)
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avcpl said:
You know the times I've used piracetam, I would love those coffee rushes. BUT, when I used it with mdma my body high was pretty weak. I'm wondering if I depleted some dopamine using it with coffee everyday prior.

It will be hard but I think I'll ween myself off coffee, then use piracetam for the week prior (and avoiding all other stimulants of course) and I think it will work a lot better with mdma (for me anyway).
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I would say Piracetam itself slightly decreases the body high of MDMA. I think that's one side of Piracetam making the roll more "clear".
 
I'm guessing it's long-term repair and benefits on the brain are the point of pre-loading- I'm guessing it will have a fairly immediate effect on the day of, which my boyfriend might try (he gets weird about supplements LOL)...
 
Bsiren- i think the neon urine is due to the b-complex in general, perhaps a combination of the dye used in the tablet and the excess vitamins being flushed out.

the choline is used as a precursor to acetylcholine, which is one of the things piracetam acts on, i think. also, there are reports of headaches being caused by the 'tam, then solved by taking choline. i prefer to avoid any headaches lol.

looks like you and i are on the same schedule, down to the day... its neat to compare notes. i haven't tried any booze yet, perhaps this weekend i'll give it a go. funny enough, my girlfriend has consented to take it with her roll at demf too, so i can get a sense of its effects when used only with mdma.

ive read that the effects are subtle but noticeable, and this week i have felt a bit more alert, less foggy. definitely better than the fog im usually in from my daily pot intake. even when i'm high its more of a "clear" high, as opposed to the usual gray fuzzy blanket over my brain. very nice. again, i wish i could tell if it was due to my change in sleep pattern or the 'tam.
 
I was taking 3grams a day of piracetam. 2grams in the morning and 1.6grams at night.
I've never been caffine sensitive, but while taking Piracetam I certainly noticed i got the jitters after having a cup which was a new experience for me wtih caffine.
I did not take any confirmed MDMA while I was on Piracetam, so I can't comment on it's affect with Piracetam.

But what I can say is it did potenate my methcathinone, 2c-e, 2c-t-2, LSD and mushroom trips quite a bit.
With the Methcathinone, it was a lot more stimulating, gave me a much bigger rush then I usually get from it (in a good way).

One thing that I suggest to you, is dont stop your dose of Piracetam suddenly. After taking Piracetam for 3 months and suddenly stopping, I started getting mood swings and terrible nightmares every night for just over a week. Wasn't fun! Taper off like you would with an antidepressant or benzo.
 
UPDATE:
My boyfriend rolled last night after taking piracetam (800 mg) 2 days in a row. He needed half the amount of MDMA he normally does to acheive desired effects, had a much more "clear" roll, and thus far has had no "come down"- this is amazing, because he normally has horrible come downs, to the extent that he vows to flush all his mdma down the toilet the next day typically....none of this is fully conclusive evidence that piracetam works, as there can be a lot of other factors, but it certainly looks good.
 
Me plus others have been experimenting with Piracetam for nearly 6 months now. Results are pretty good. On a daily basis 1.6g or so has great "smart" effects with no come down etc. In terms of dropping it with MDMA, it seems to have a positive and potentiation effect. Overall, I can't see any reason to stop taking Piracetam...)

Oh and it potentiates everything I've ever tried it on the same day as...
 
gardener said:
Me plus others have been experimenting with Piracetam for nearly 6 months now. Results are pretty good. On a daily basis 1.6g or so has great "smart" effects with no come down etc. In terms of dropping it with MDMA, it seems to have a positive and potentiation effect. Overall, I can't see any reason to stop taking Piracetam...)

Oh and it potentiates everything I've ever tried it on the same day as...
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I've been taking 2x800mg piracetam a day with choline, and it most certainly does potentiate MDMA and other drugs. The first time I combined MDMA with piracetam was actually by accident. I took the piracetam not expecting to roll that night. A few hours later, I ate 200mg of good molly and rolled HARD. This was by far the strongest experience I've had with MDMA. Definitely stronger than 300mg without piracetam.

Obviously there could have been other factors that influenced the experience, but I've since rolled 4 times, 3 times without and once again with piracetam and now there is no question in my mind that it potentiates MDMA.

In addition, piracetam definitely potentiates the effects of amphetamines. I've taken it with Adderall and I get the same effects with only about half the dosage as without it.
 
I've been taking piracetam for a few days now. Clarity is insane. Had a cup of tea this morning and felt like I had taken ephedrine. I don't remember ever feeling like that from caffeine at any point. The headaches are insane at the end of the day. I've taken 200mgs of choline today to no avail. The clarity, though.. I haven't felt this clearheaded in recent memory -- maybe a vague familiarity at best (is this how I could think before MDMA? >.> I don't know!!). It has given me all but high hopes for its combination with MDMA. I'm so excited ^^ Wish I knew when I was going to roll next >.> I guess I'll just keep taking piracetam until then! =D
 
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