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MEGA - Courses and Careers related to Drugs

rangrz said:
inmate?
hobo?

they are easy to get into at least.

drug studies suck. I've gotten methylphenidate and some opioids in clinical trails...bioavilability study for generic manufacture to match with brand name.

You get a bit of the med, and >9000 venipunctures every 30 minutes for 2 days until your dizzy from blood loss.
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They should have put in an IV access line. Way less trauma to the veins. Just draw blood form the line instead of shredding the veins.

On a side note, if you dig drugs and business why not become a drug rep? But like others have said the only way to most interesting drug jobs is through sciences.
 
Fuck so I guess a proper job with drugs is outta the window.

I guess just a boring job in the office and in business is order

+ maybe grow a personal or sellable stash on the side ,


Man why does life suck so much lol
 
im also 17 and when i graduate i am going to college in california to get a degree in pharmacology. i found this subject in 8th grade. it interested me and a year later i wrote a book about pharmacology. i was 14. ive always sucked in school but when it came to drugs the stuff just stuck to my brain. do what interests you. :) and dont let anybody tell you otherwise. all my family and counselors always said it wasnt a good idea, but fuck them cuz ill be making more money than them for something ive put all my focus into. and not to mention i love it. :)
 
Get a job doing something that you like or at least don't mind doing and then drugs can be your hobby. Growing up doesn't automatically mean you have to be a total square. Everyone who likes drugs would like to make a career out of it, but it's not all that realistic. There aren't too many career drug dealers/growers/manufacturers that never get caught or robbed or whatever at least once in their lives.
 
You have plenty of time to figure out what you want to do career wise. Don't limit yourself to a mere three interests at this point in your life. You are still maturing, growing, and changing. Especially changing. You're at an age where people change A LOT over a few short years (during your teens and early to mid 20's especially), so yeah, I wouldn't nix any other possibilities just yet, especially considering the fact that your three hobbies leave you with few options as far as careers go.
 
I'm in the same boat. 17, Canada, no idea what i want to do with the rest of my life and completely obsessed with drugs(not like addicted, just interested with them) I'm barely passing school. I don't think I'm going to graduate this year. So far my ideas to what i want to be when I'm older.

So far my decisions are either work or own a head shop, or be a cop(something i wanted to be even before i started doing drugs) Hopefully everything works out for the both of us.
 
Pharmacology Personal Statement

I'm applying for a Pharmacology degree (or at least I'm mid-application) but I'm slightly stuck on the personal statement aspect. I'm looking for a degree with a foundation year (I didn't take Biology at A2 which pretty much rules me out of direct entry to any pharmacology degree (and though I'd like to think (without boasting) I'm significantly above average intelligence, this certainly wasn't reflected in my A-level results)), so I'm somewhat limited as to where I can apply, and I can't really say all that much about what I'm currently studying since I've been out of full time education for nigh on 3 years now.

I can express my deep passion for pharmacology, but I want to do this without implying all my knowledge and interests are based on CNS agonists/antagonists, and I HAVE to do this without preaching the merits of psychedelics.

Yes, in an ideal world it wouldn't matter, and I could go on all day about what incredible tools psychedelics can be for delving into the human psyche, quote books I've read like PiHKAL and TiHKAL, I could cite organisations like MAPS, quote papers that talk about the comparative safety of MDMA and its incredible results in therapeutic application with regards to treatment of PTSD, marital breakdown, terminal cancer patients, state my future goals and my ultimate desire to be the next Shulgin =D etc. etc. etc.

Regrettably though, we don't live in an ideal world, and if I play to my strengths (pretty much all of my more in-depth knowledge of drugs and drug interactions is self taught and based around what I've needed - CNS/SSRI/MAOI interactions and the serotonin system), they're going to take one look and go "Oh, so he's a druggy. Put him in on the no pile".

What I'm trying to get at is how do I get my passion across without going "Yeah, I'm an intelligent, but drug addled potential candidate with a passion for the subject but I frequently break the law with my narcotic consumption".

I know I know I obviously wouldn't mention the fact that I DO consume psychedelic and other illegal drugs, but I'm pretty certain anyone that reads a personal statement that rambles on about the brilliance of psychedelics, the potential gains for mankind (medical and psychological gains), and focuses heavily on the serotonin system is going to be seen as suspicious if nothing else ...

One thought I had was to brush on the subject of psychosis, and feign interest in this area which would legitimately explain my interest in the serotonin system. The obvious problem I have here though is I know a lot about illicit psychedelic substances, but nothing about anti-psychotics, (either typcials or atypicals).

Also, since my knowledge is somewhat fractured and lacking in most areas, but significantly more detailed in other area's, has anyone got any suggestions as to things which might be useful to read? Books, papers, scientific journals, anything really.

Many thanks in advance guys.
 
Hmm... I recently took Pharmacology as part of my curriculum, and man do I wish I could have mentioned the potential use of psychedelics as treatment regimens (as you mention in your OP).

Regarding your personal statement: could you perhaps discuss modern therapeutics and lead into the "alternative therapy" realm, where your expertise lies?

Perhaps you could discuss the use of modern-day "medically-accepted" CNS chemicals that are used and how they are not producing the ideal results. And as a solution you could propose the use of "alternative therapy (chemicals being researched by other countries, holistic medicine, etc)." Of course back up both sides with proper (for lack of a better word) literature.

This may not be what you're looking for--do you have to avoid the "alternative therapy" (more specifically psychedelics and other chemicals not currently accepted in your country) entirely?

My response is a bit rambling and perhaps repetitive. My appologies I'm currently detoxing and going through some WD's :!
 
id say good luck getting anywhere without an already list of classes in biology n chemistry, especially not having attended school in several years. i'd say pretty what shaman said. drug therapy with counselling to unravel ppl's deepest emotions, theyre true feelings to where theyd be the most open. there were a shit ton of doctors and therapists who gave their pateints mdma and it worked before it got prohibited.
 
Just explain that medicine is only but a part of health care, a part that's horrendously underutilized. Not just this, but the future in medicine is making less-addictive but equally-effective medications to the drugs we currently have now.

If they think you're a junkie because you want to make a non-addictive opiate, well that's the dumbest conclusion anyone could make IMO.
 
Shaman_RN said:
Hmm... I recently took Pharmacology as part of my curriculum, and man do I wish I could have mentioned the potential use of psychedelics as treatment regimens (as you mention in your OP).

Regarding your personal statement: could you perhaps discuss modern therapeutics and lead into the "alternative therapy" realm, where your expertise lies?

Perhaps you could discuss the use of modern-day "medically-accepted" CNS chemicals that are used and how they are not producing the ideal results. And as a solution you could propose the use of "alternative therapy (chemicals being researched by other countries, holistic medicine, etc)." Of course back up both sides with proper (for lack of a better word) literature.

This may not be what you're looking for--do you have to avoid the "alternative therapy" (more specifically psychedelics and other chemicals not currently accepted in your country) entirely?

My response is a bit rambling and perhaps repetitive. My appologies I'm currently detoxing and going through some WD's :!
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This is a nice idea. I may well pursue this avenue. I want an interest in anti-psychotics to feature in my statement, because this instantly puts me on familiar territory should I be called for an interview, but this could easily be linked in with hallucinogens and 5HT2 agonists/antagonists. I could even perhaps throw something in about theories which state that LSD is effectively a temporary state of user-enforced psychosis. Hmmm ...

madswagga said:
id say good luck getting anywhere without an already list of classes in biology n chemistry, especially not having attended school in several years. i'd say pretty what shaman said. drug therapy with counselling to unravel ppl's deepest emotions, theyre true feelings to where theyd be the most open. there were a shit ton of doctors and therapists who gave their pateints mdma and it worked before it got prohibited.
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Don't know where you live, but in the UK university application is done through a system called UCAS. Each A-level has a certain number of points, and the better the grade the more points you get. I also have extra-curricular awards in music, which though irrelevant to the course, still count towards UCAS points. I easily qualify for a degree with a foundation year (same degree just takes 4 years instead of 3, so I have a year to cover everything I didn't study when I wasn't taking biology/chemistry in my A-Levels.

Captain.Heroin said:
Just explain that medicine is only but a part of health care, a part that's horrendously underutilized. Not just this, but the future in medicine is making less-addictive but equally-effective medications to the drugs we currently have now.

If they think you're a junkie because you want to make a non-addictive opiate, well that's the dumbest conclusion anyone could make IMO.
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Of course it's the dumbest conclusion they could make, I see that, you see that, and most people here will see that. The trouble is, that doesn't mean they won't make that conclusion. Essentially I've not proved myself yet. Unless I went for an interview and absolutely blew them away, my fear is the slightest suggestion of any interest in illicit substances will instantly put them off.
 
I really don't think you should mention anything even remotely connected with recreational drugs. If they get even a whiff of drug use in your statement you have no chance of getting in. This isn't about being 'true to yourself' or whatever, it's about getting into university.

Mention your previous contact with this kind of discipline, talk about how you love the kind of thinking that pharmacology involves, your passion for science, your admiration of the importance of pharmacological work in society for dealing with important illnesses, improving quality of life, etc. You want them to think you are going to be a good thinker and a good scientist who will be passionate about this kind of learning and this kind of scientific practice. Do not mention anything connected with recreational drugs. Even mentioning the possibilities for non addictive opiates or something like that is a silly risk to take. Sell yourself as a scientist.
 
satricion said:
I really don't think you should mention anything even remotely connected with recreational drugs. If they get even a whiff of drug use in your statement you have no chance of getting in. This isn't about being 'true to yourself' or whatever, it's about getting into university.

Mention your previous contact with this kind of discipline, talk about how you love the kind of thinking that pharmacology involves, your passion for science, your admiration of the importance of pharmacological work in society for dealing with important illnesses, improving quality of life, etc. You want them to think you are going to be a good thinker and a good scientist who will be passionate about this kind of learning and this kind of scientific practice. Do not mention anything connected with recreational drugs. Even mentioning the possibilities for non addictive opiates or something like that is a silly risk to take. Sell yourself as a scientist.
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I think this is the smartest response thus far in this thread ^

Right now you should worry about getting in and tell them everything THEY WANT TO HEAR in order to get in. Your actual research interests can change after you are accepted, but for now, do like satricion said and sell yourself as a scientist.

I sold my research interests last year in order to get into grad school for Cultural Anthropology. I got accepted and am starting school this fall. I haven't even begun taking classes and, at the recommendation of my advisor, have already changed what my Master's research is going to be. It's all fine by me because I'm already in the program.

Good luck.
 
Potentially you may get some milage about talking about issues related to your area of interest. I'm far from being any kind of expert however you could research and talk about the frontier of medicine in terms of the Gut-Brain linkage and how currently Gastroenterologists are struggling to get funding for any research into traditional GI complaints but there is plenty of pharma money for research into mental health since it is a growth area with better potential for helping lots of patients and paying back their investment in R&D.

From reading just the post you have written I suspect you are going to have to learn to enjoy a lot more than your specific area of interest if you have any hope of enjoying your study since it will be very general for the most part.

I also endorse the idea of making no mention whatsoever about recreational drug use. You probably wouldn't pro-actively raise the topic with your parent's friends or any random stranger unless they'd given you some kind of cue they were cool with it.
 
I agree with satricion. You need to focus on getting in first and foremost. Most respected universities, for better or worse, will throw your application in the trash when they read anything remotely like using illegal drugs. I agree with being honest on applications but it doesn't mean you have to reveal every part of your persona/beliefs in the application. To be honest, even mentioning other 'alternative' medicines may sound fishy to them. Pharmacy schools seem to be pretty strict on their student base considering the type of chemicals they'll have access to. I'd definitely veer on the side of caution in how you come across.
 
Pharmacy

So recently I've racking my brain trying to figure out what it is I want to do with my life. I've been interested in different careers, from journalism to botany but I cant see a future in these feilds. I've been strongly considering pharmacy due to my interest in medicine and the growth rate of the industry.

I'm a little nervous about the education required to pursue pharmacy as I wasnt exactly an ideal student in high school (I graduated in 2006). But my attitude has changed drasticly since I was last in school. I went to an alternative high school which offered no chemistry or advanced math classes, which are prerequisites for pre-pharmacy. So should the college offer classes to get me caught up before my regular classes start up? I dont really know where to start. I'm just planning on enrolling into community college to get my AA in pharmacy then transfering to a university.

I dont have any hidden agendas or alterior motives for getting into the feild (This is a drug forum afterall). I just want to make a legitimate living for myself and find something to apply my energy and time to.

Any advice on how to make it happen?
 
Pharmacists now graduate with a Pharm D (which means that they're doctors of a sort), and the education is six years. There are many opportunities in the profession, from industry, retail, clinical, research, etc. A pharmacist is very well paid, usually in the six figures, but you can count on a rigorous education and long hours.

Going to a community college to get your grades up is a good idea. Some CC's will have a program that prepares you specifically to go to pharmacy school after finishing your associates. If you do well you're pretty much guaranteed a spot.

I will tell you, if you use drugs, be careful about choosing this profession--you will have too much access and pharmacists who divert substances will be caught--I know PLENTY.
 
I know that most pharmacy schools in the US require either an Associates or Bachelors to be accepted. I'm hoping to only have to obtain an AA before being accepted by a university.
 
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