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[MEGA]Community Growing advice, tips, tricks, & experiences Part 5 (2012-2013)

You need to start keeping it simple.

Try an experiment, keeping it simple this time and see how you go. Get peat pellets (the kind that swell up when you soak them in water before use) and plant the seeds straight in there, making holes just a few mm deep and covering. Keep them warm at a temperature of 21-23 degrees centigrade and wait for them to germinate. Then once you see roots poking through the bottom you then plant them into a small pot of soil, planting some mycorrhizal fungi into the planting hole if you wish.

The soil should be something simple to start off with. Never mind adding sand, stone, top soil, ashes and all that. Just get multipurpose compost from your garden centre/nursery (please show us a photo before you use it so I can say whether it's likely to be okay to use if you want to be sure) and sieve it with a 1/4 inch gardening sieve.

Make sure you water the soil once you've planted the peat puck into the planting hole with tepid (inbetween hot and cold) water and then use what is called a wet/dry cycle, meaning you allow the soil to dry out slightly inbetween waterings so the roots can get oxygen from the air. But be sure not to let it dry out too much otherwise the plant will wilt and cause damage. The soil, if it's a multipurpose compost, will already have fertilizers added to it so you do not need to add calcium, phosphorus or any other fertilizer to it. Each time you pot up with fresh compost you are adding fresh unused compost for the roots to use so they will get enough nutrients from that. And that leads me on to the next point - you should be potting up in stages instead of planting straight into one big pot full of soil.

You need to make sure your environment is right if you're growing indoors with the right amount of light and good airflow maintained by the use of a good extraction and intake fan. I assume you already have that sorted out, right?

stupid question, that has probably been asked before....

I have tried to grow on a couple different occasions, nothing serious, only 1 plant at a time and each time have had the same results... I sprout the seeds for 3-5 days in moist paper towels, and then plant them indoors in a soil medium and use natural spring water from a mountain stream to avoid any chemicals that may be present in the municipal source. My soil is usually 20% sand bottom, a layer of natural stone containing calcium and phosphorus ground up across the top of that, about 5% and the rest consisting of around 50% dark natural top soil from the creek bed, 10% ashes and 15% planting soil (if fertilized, the kind for roses) mixed. the natural soil is sifted to remove any other plants or roots that might be in it, using 18 hour light on 6 hours off schedule. the seedlings are planted about 3 inches deep, and at least 6-8 inches of soil above the sand layer. Well, the plants shoot up to about 12-14 inches tall within 2-3 weeks, before any leaves form, then it gets 2-3 leaves at the top of the stem, then the plant just seems to either fall over and die, or they turn yellowish and dry out, either way it is just before I am ready to change the lighting timing to 12/12 to flower the plant. What am I doing wrong here? the plant is well wateredthe roots in the soil look good when I go through them, I am at a loss here...

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Because UV levels peak in mid summer bud harvested during July-August will be quite a bit more potent than bud harvested in autumn.
Personally if I had the resources I would go for the first option because that is the best way to grow the most potent, high quality bud possible. But otherwise the best way to get the best terpene content with the best smells and tastes is to give the plants good, organic soil with good organic fertilizers, because with the help of sunlight the plants are made from these very materials. Well grown bud grown outdoors in good soil with sparing use of fertilizers will give you the best results.

^Hopefully the terpenes will be in full effect, thats the aim.
Luckily for plants not so much for humans down under we have extreme UV ratings all the way through to early autumn so early flowering indicas get the benefits of that. Even mid Autumn UV is still high.
 
Cannabis is different from those plants yes. But alkaloid production all works along the same lines. You even have Cannabioids in your brain, and they are released I the same basic scenarios as increased mescaline production in a Cacti or DMT in Phalaris. So it only makes sense that to increase Canabis Alkaloid production you follow the same principle.

And do some research. Have you heard of super-cropping? Or Topping and FIMing? It's all PERFECTLY acceptable stress practice because it has been tested OVER and OVER by thousands if not millions of people. I am just introducing some new (but they HAVE actually been done before) not so well known techniques.

And I got the information on the Ph of ash on a grow forum. I bounce all this information off them ass well :D
Its not a good practice dude.

Please tell me how something that kills a part of the plant and has the possibility to turn it hermaphroditic is good for it at all?

LST is the way to go, all day. You get so many tops its ridiculous. I wish my super skunk was further into flower, you would see lol.

And yeah AI I learned I have two super skunks (Skunk #1 x Afghani) instaed of just skunk #1 and I'm going to be crossing them with a solid afghani male that I'm flowering :)
 
^what would the marketing folks call the offspring from that cross? super super skunk?

On the FIM technique its obviously more stressful than training but doesn't seem to slow the plants down too much. I had no intention of doing it this time around but a caterpillar got onto it for me. Ended up with 7 tops or so.
 
Trust me man, don't fim or top.

Just low stress train, and feed organic. That will give you all of the cannabinoids that you could ever want.
Plus too much stress = hermies = less cannabinoid content

Not really true brotha. If you know how to top, super crop and FIM properly then it actually does not cause too much stress to the plant at all. Out of ALL my grows I never had one hermie. Depending on the strain depends how i treat it. Topping is a very good way to produce the max amount of bud possible. I have indoor plants that get over a lb under 6 1150 watt gavita adjustable. lights. I would never get that yield if I didnt top and fim. What it results in is instead of 1 large cola I have 6-10 colas a plant all yielding the same as the top cola would. It looks like a massive scrog plant with out the screen (and minus being 2 ft tall). NOT all strains should be topped and not all strains should be FIM'd... Almost every expert grower I know top's and FIM's in one way or another. And these people contribute largely to the product all over the country.
 
When I FIM or top the amount I nip off is so small it's really not stressful to the plant at all in my view. Some people are under the impression that to top a plant you have to lop off a whole load of the top but really you only need to cut off a few mm of growth at the very top. Literally the two small sugarleaves poking out right at the top, so the stress to the plant is minimal. The apical bud produces an auxin (IAA) that inhibits growth of the lateral buds so once you nip off the very tip you're done.

Plant growth never seems to be stunted but as Livingthealps says, some plants like it better than others for some reason. Some plants on the other hand like to be left along and do better as single cola plants.

Even if topping or FIM doesn't increase yield I still like to do it because lots of colas is much better than one big main cola since they don't suffer from mould nearly as bad. Massive donkey dick colas are the worst for grey mould at the end of the bloom.
 
I have a method of training a 8-9 foot plant to grow into a 5 ft. diameter x 5 ft. high mega-bush w/ different weighted fishing sinkers...it's quite easy and yields countless 2 inch buds.
 
RP Headband (Sour Kush) and bonsai chilli plants!

God I'm so hoping to get a 100% germination rate with my Reserva Privada Headband seeds. There's only 6 seeds because they're feminized so the failure rate by each seed failing to germinate is about double what it would be otherwise. So far 5 out of 6 have popped and touch wood the last one will pop in the next couple of days! I always get really good results germinating because I do it right, as obvious as that sounds. I just put them in wet Root Riots and keep them at 21-22°C using a thermostatically controlled heat mat under a propagator. No messing about with soaking for 24 hours or even worse, paper towels. Don't get me wrong, people use those methods and they work, but especially with something like the paper towel method, it is not ideal and there are better ways. Cannabis is not some magical plant, as amazing as it is and doesn't really have to be treated much differently to a lot of other vegetables. What works for something like tomatoes often will work for weed.

Speaking of fruit/veg, I've gone all out on chillis this year. I've just bought all these varieties which I will be starting in the next week:

  • Naga Jolokia (former hottest chilli in the world)
  • Chocolate habanero (see pic below - it looks awesome)
  • Orange habanero
  • Tabasco pepper (the type used in Tabasco sauce)
  • Lemon drop chilli (tastes just like lemon/citrus, is yellow too)
  • Nigels outdoor green chilli (can be grown out in the UK climate)
  • Fatalii chilli (super hot)
  • Capsicum 'twilight' (multiple colours, very pretty)

I am starting to love the chilli growing almost as much as growing cannabis! I don't know what it is about them that draws me towards the hobby. There are just so many different types, I could never grow them all, but that won't stop me from trying!

I'm also getting really interested in bonsai chilli trees. This is basically a chilli plant that's simply been trained into a bonsai tree. Since chilli plants are perrenial you can keep the bonchai trees almost indefinitely and get chillis each year. They make great conversation pieces and can be grown indoors of course.

Bonsai chilli tree:

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Chocolate habanero:

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Lemon drop chilli:
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Orange habanero:
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Capsicum twilight:
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Your bonsai's are a beauty !! and yes heat & moisture are yer' seeds best friends
Also once there is a root system they love an occasional dose of B-2 mixed into your nutrient water (if your not using food that already contains it)

I actually grew a plant in a 20 lb potato net bag a while back & a root found its way onto my vitamin
B-2 bottle a foot away
 
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Those aren't mine unfortunately. They're just pics from the net that are meant to be examples of the varities I was talking about.

I will post pics when I start growing them though. I can't wait to start the bonsais. Cannabis is another plant that does well with the bonsai technique funnily enough and the great thing about it is it allows you to get loads of plants/varieties/phenotypes in a very confined space so you can take clones for future grows.

I've heard of growing in burlap/Jute sacks but I've never actually seen it before. It's a great method for outdoor growing because you don't have to haul loads of akwardly shaped pots to your grow site, which makes things easier.
 
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I used the 20 lb potato bags that are made of (quarter inch netting)...The medium was home made containing 50-60% sterile hardwood leaf mulch -
with a shallow 4 in. high x 16 in diameter under the potato bags The liquid B vitamins made the roots grow like crazy.
There were actually roots trying to wrap around a bottle of B-12 sitting on the floor w/ the lid off !
 
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Those lemon drop chilli's look like the Capsicum Baccatum I have growing (I think they were labelled as Peruvian Aji Limon). If they are the same they will have green spots on the flower petals. I also have some Balinese chillies called Tabia. Hopefully they will thrive in the Autumn.

I'll have to look into the b12 additives. I have been putting Rhizotonic on them that may already have something similar in it.
 
That's right, they are indeed capsicum baccatum which makes them quite different from most other chilli varieties so they're quite interesting. Have you tried eating them before, justsayknow? Did they really taste like lemon? Did you enjoy them?

Apparently there are three different types of Balinese chillies - from mild to very hot. I wonder which you have?

If you like Rhizotonic, justsayknow, I would recommend looking into using hygrozyme as I find it works better for me, or it used to when I tried it which was quite a while ago so it may have changed for all I know,
 
The lemon ones do have a bit of a fruity citrus flavour, not so fruity as the habanero/chinense types. I managed to kill my fatalis this year but I have some jamaican yellows that survived the heat and snail attacks they are unusual in that they are a mild chinense but very fruity.

The Tabia Bali are a large fat twisted chilli with thin skin like a habanero. They are the less hot than the tiny bird eye ones but are more appealing in appearance and flavour. I took seeds from a plant that had the most twisted fruit from a chilli and tobacco farm near dempasar.

They looked like the twisted red ones in this pic
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I never knew you were a chilli head, justsayknow.

I'll have to try those Tabia bali chillis if they're any good. Have you ever been tempted to grow some of those chilli varieties that are the hottest in the world - like Naga Jolokia, Trinidad Scorpion Moruga (current world record holder iirc), 7-pot (called this because one chilli is enough for 7 large pots of stew) or Spanish Naga?

I am sooo pleased, my last headband seedling has finally shown its head! That's 6 out of 6, 100% germination for me, even if the last seed took 8 days to decide to show itself. Thank god. Keeping it at the right, thermostatically-controlled temperature and being patient by not touching them paid off imho.

I've planted all the seedlings in some really great soil made by Plant Magic called Soil Supreme. It's a lightmix type soil meaning it has very low nutrient content making it ideal for seedlings and clones. It is great stuff because it doesn't even need to be sieved as there's so little crap in it and it's got fytocell added, which really improves the texture and the plants love it. I think it has some humic acid added to it which is a growth stimulant of sorts, so the plants will take up nutrients more efficiently.

I've added crused rock dust to help feed the mycorrhizal fungi that I've added to each planting hole so they should love it.
 
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My best Latino buddies growing up (in Michigan) grew pequin chilli's among a plot of about 20 other varieties along w/ second generation Michoacan (excellent seeded sativa) The ripe pequins were my favorite, they would flash fry them in a giant iron "wok" over a mesquite fire w/ a bit of oil & salt they were so tasty you could toss em' back like peanuts ! as long as there was plenty of ice cold cervesa nearby "Chilula" picante contains mostly pequin peppers in there sauce.
 
I am sooo pleased, my last headband seedling has finally shown its head! That's 6 out of 6, 100% germination for me, even if the last seed took 8 days to decide to show itself. Thank god. Keeping it at the right, thermostatically-controlled temperature and being patient by not touching them paid off imho.

I've planted all the seedlings in some really great soil made by Plant Magic called Soil Supreme. It's a lightmix type soil meaning it has very low nutrient content making it ideal for seedlings and clones. It is great stuff because it doesn't even need to be sieved as there's so little crap in it and it's got fytocell added, which really improves the texture and the plants love it. I think it has some humic acid added to it which is a growth stimulant of sorts, so the plants will take up nutrients more efficiently.

I've added crused rock dust to help feed the mycorrhizal fungi that I've added to each planting hole so they should love it.

Bomb man good job :) I wish your little seedlings a good life!

I was wondering what a good alternative to Gravity Bud hardener would be, as I don't like the research that has come off of Paclobutrazol. Thanks for the tips :)

Oh I guess I'll add that right now I feed with phospohrous seabird guano, seaweed extract, humic acid, worm castings, and alfalfa meal in a tea.
 
Ok im being super lazy & cant be bothered searching. What outdoor strains are the most forgiving? Autoflowering would be nice
 
^Ive heard the auto flowering product is not so great. Never tried any of them personally though.
I had good results with Pure Power Plant outdoors before. It grew fast, flowered early and suffered some neglect and brutal heat waves but still came through with flying colours.
Apparently its a Hybrid of Durban Poison and California Orange.

I've heard the various Skunk types are easy to grow. Mr Nice's Shit is one that springs to mind.
 
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