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[MEGA] Cannabis Quitting Thread aka I need a break

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SourCream said:
Thanks for the response, thats very interesting!

Do you happen to know of any good presets I can find? playing around with Gnaural...

Thanks a lot :)
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Here you go SourCream (Binaural Beats - Resources)

I hope this helps you out :) don't forget - our brain is capable of many great things and this is just a tool to help you on your own journey.

I'm very confident it can help you. When you use binaural beats - it's best to lay down, use earphones/headphones that can play (at a minimum) frequency ranges from 20hz-20khz, close your eyes, breathe normally and relax. Aim for around 30-40 minute sessions. Good luck.
 
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Well after my experience with an adulterated pill, I honestly need a break from everything. Especially weed because it stays in your system for so long and so many jobs want to drug test.
 
I'm gonna try. I have 2 days off work, so less stress. Although the things I would want to do sober I can't since my car engine blew up and I'm stuck at home.
Being bored is the enemy!
If I have to smoke I have "dirt" weed, from when there was NOTHING and I took what I could find. Its BAD, tasty bad! I hope that if I have to give in I won't enjoy it much.
I'm planning on not taking any other drugs either. I really want a clear mind to cure this funk I'm in.
I find myself sitting in from of the computer or tv smoking and eating, cause I don't have a car. Any ideas?
 
Go for a walk, or a cycle, or something else active. It's going to be harder if you're in the environment and doing the things with which you usually associate smoking.
 
I'm just curious guys...I used to hang out with a lot of potheads back in the day...can you get physical withdrawal symptoms from quiting weed? I never really smoked that much, so I don't know.

I do know about opiates and the EXTREME physical AND mental issues that are involved with withdrawal. I'm not aware of any real physical withdrawals with weed, but I'm just curious about it.

Did anyone actually experience physical symptoms from quitting weed?
 
FlyBoy81 said:
I'm just curious guys...I used to hang out with a lot of potheads back in the day...can you get physical withdrawal symptoms from quiting weed? I never really smoked that much, so I don't know.

I do know about opiates and the EXTREME physical AND mental issues that are involved with withdrawal. I'm not aware of any real physical withdrawals with weed, but I'm just curious about it.

Did anyone actually experience physical symptoms from quitting weed?
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I would say you do get some minor achs and pains. I have a sensitive stomach already, so I just get stomach aches and it might be hard to eat.

But if your going to compare it to opiates and ask that question. The answer is always going to be hell no.

It's nothing major, but it is somthing. The stomach aches do bother me, some people claim that it's hard to sleep. Also pain that you already had can be ampified.

But for the most part it's Psychological.

Little comparison chart:

Opiate W/D
Stage I: Six to fourteen hours after last dose: Drug craving, anxiety

Stage II: Fourteen to eighteen hours after last dose: Yawning, perspiration, lacrimation, crying, running nose, dysphoria, "yen sleep" (a waking trance-like state)
Stage III: Sixteen to twenty-four hours after last dose: Rhinorrhea (runny nose) and increase in other of the above, dilated pupils, piloerection (gooseflesh), muscle twitches, hot flashes, cold flashes, aching bones and muscles, loss of appetite and the beginning of intestinal cramping.
Stage IV: Twenty-four to thirty-six hours after last dose: Increase in all of the above including severe cramping and involuntary leg movements ("kicking the habit"), loose stool, insomnia, elevation of blood pressure, moderate elevation in body temperature, increase in frequency of breathing and tidal volume, tachycardia (elevated pulse), restlessness, nausea
Stage V: Thirty-six to seventy-two hours after last dose: Increase in the above, fetal position, vomiting, free and frequent liquid diarrhea, which sometimes can accelerate the time of passage of food from mouth to out of system to an hour or less, involuntary ejaculation, which is often painful, saturation of bedding materials with bodily fluids, weight loss of two to five kilos per 24 hours, increased white cell count and other blood changes.Weed:
Nausea
Cant eat
Cant sleep
Minor pains amplified.

Dont even ask about benzodiazapines, there a completely different story.
 
slimvictor said:
Anyone here tried using 5-htp while quitting weed?
I would appreciate learning about some people's experiences doing so.
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I noticed nothing I would not chalk up to placebo. I've also used 5-htp for quitting benzo and opiate use. Also no real effect.

I still smoke weed. I'm clean from the 'zos and oppies. I wouldn't say 5-htp helped at all. Melatonin was a better help for sleep coupled with valarian root extract. Gabapentin or Lyrica was also helpful.

Hydro, for opiate w/d, you forgot 90 days of intense cravings to relapse. It's also a lot worse then a little chart could ever say, IMO. Opiate w/d was/is worse then... well anything, ever.
 
^　Thanks for the response, Chainer.
I have never been addicted to anything stronger than weed (or synthetic cannabinoids, or, maybe, caffeine), but quitting weed is always a difficult thing for me. I definitely am in a bad mood for a week or so, and I often get strong flu-like symptoms as well. The whole thing takes a month to disappear, Sleeping is not usually a problem for me, though my dreams are intense and unrelenting, which can wake me up.
I was hoping that 5-htp might help with the bad moods. Guess you didn't notice anything about mood-changing? Also thinking that maybe St John's Wort might help...
I might try it / them next time, despite your un-noteworthy experiences, though my expectations are definitely somewhat lowered.
 
going to try to stop smoking on weekdays and just do it on weekends. that way i can get extra high on the weekends and save money by not having to buy tree so often. its going to be hard though...i can already hear it screaming my name inside its little baggie...
 
I'm taking a little break... I need to start saving some money :\ maybe I'll last a week before this money starts burning in my hand.
 
i didnt read through the whole thread yet, but I need to quit so bad this is impossible. I tried to go one day without smoking and shit fucks with me so hard. Sleep schedule is completely fucked, I can't get a bite of food down my throat without gagging and I feel off, but like seriously off. I was in the grocery store talking to myself out loud without even realizing it.

I tried just smoking less each day, but after a week of only a bowl a day I was already feeling shitty and anxious and depressed and the thought of stopping completely terrifies me. I think the only way I can stop is if i'm completely broke and can't buy weed. I'm gonna read through this thread though and hopefully get some advice. /rant
 
Currently im in a 4 day break.. I have been smoking like 15 joints a day with 1 or 2 friends for the past one and a half year.. Its a little hard but manageable..
 
slimvictor said:
^　Thanks for the response, Chainer.
I have never been addicted to anything stronger than weed (or synthetic cannabinoids, or, maybe, caffeine), but quitting weed is always a difficult thing for me. I definitely am in a bad mood for a week or so, and I often get strong flu-like symptoms as well. The whole thing takes a month to disappear, Sleeping is not usually a problem for me, though my dreams are intense and unrelenting, which can wake me up.
I was hoping that 5-htp might help with the bad moods. Guess you didn't notice anything about mood-changing? Also thinking that maybe St John's Wort might help...
I might try it / them next time, despite your un-noteworthy experiences, though my expectations are definitely somewhat lowered.
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It's a YMMV subject I feel, but if you do read decent funded studies on the stuff like 5htp, you really find that there are very few journal reviewed studies, in large everything is inconclusive.

A break is the best way to deal with the side effects. The ones that remain are just mental barriers - learning how to cop without using cannabis all the time. Valarian Root and a few herbal remedies helped a lot with sleep.
 
i have taken an unexpected break due to breaking bones and being housebound. only times i have had a toke is on the weekends. i have more money and dont feel tired all the time :) although side-effects from cutting down include: weird and vivid dreams, short temper, a feeling of "not knowing what to do with myself" and mild depression. they might not all be related to me cutting down but im guessing they could well be.
 
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I've been smoking MJ everyday (few days off here and there) for the last year. Anyway it's nothing compared to when I first started. My question is, how long of a break would you suggest before I feel the same from it as when I first started? Or will I never be able to feel like that again?
 
It really doesn't take long at all. Are you a nightly or chronic smoker? You probably arn't having dreams during sleep anymore if you are smoking a whole lot, but daily smoking does not necessarily imply this. When I smoke like a eigth a day and I'm chronically "high", I lose all the positive effects of being stoned. They only seem to come back after I allow myself to be sober for 3 or 4 days, and I start having REM sleep again. Then I can get high as all hell again, but tolerance comes back in no time at all.
 
rave_itsrealfun!!! said:
It really doesn't take long at all. Are you a nightly or chronic smoker? You probably arn't having dreams during sleep anymore if you are smoking a whole lot, but daily smoking does not necessarily imply this. When I smoke like a eigth a day and I'm chronically "high", I lose all the positive effects of being stoned. They only seem to come back after I allow myself to be sober for 3 or 4 days, and I start having REM sleep again. Then I can get high as all hell again, but tolerance comes back in no time at all.
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Well lately I've been cutting back. But for the last while I would make it through the day smoke free and end up smoking a gram blunt to myself before bed. I would be high for a bit then just pass out and fall asleep. My days of smoking insane amounts in one sitting are over though. I've noticed that as I've been smoking lesser amounts I seem to get higher , but the high hasn't been as fun as it used to be.
 
I ceased chronic use recently as I realized that even daily use is too much, unless you have a medical reason for it that is. It can lead to a serious addiction too as it has for me. Having a tolerance to a drug means that your brain is being altered. You take a drug, it doesn't have the effect it once had, your brain is different now you know? I would suggest cutting back a whole lot and letting your head clear out. If you blaze say, once a week, there is no reason why you shouldn't have a great high. I've smoked roughly 10,000 times or more and if I do this, I get just as high as I ever did back when I started, and get more out of the experience now than ever before.
 
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