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[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal

Thank you for taking such notice to my thread.
Ive had a good amount of experince from smoking.
Willing to help any of the newer smokers about the life of smoking weed. I've slowly been getting my life in line this is just something that had been bothering me For the past three months couldn't really find a place to post something like this.
Im slowly litmiting myself.. I dont think going cold turkey will help im thinking maybe biying a dub and spliyting iy into two very small half gram smoke sessions per week to help me ease off and burn off some stress. Bud has become too much a psrt of my life to completely stop.
It is truly a beautiful thing that has to be seen and enjoyed in its entirety
 
My best advice is to cut down over time, try to stay out of situations where people are exclusively smoking pot, and find a hobby. A big part of quitting is breaking the habit.
 
Hey Krylon, you're still smoking everyday?

Try tapering down on a few cones every day, you're right don't go cold turkey on this! Exercise is a very good friend to have, do it as early as you can before you get too baked and catatonic.

Can I ask why 6g every day? Not putting you down, it's just 6 why not 5 or 7 you know?
 
Exercise helps. I skated my ass off when detoxing by choice or lack of funds/grow not ready. Come home after work and a killer exercise session/skate/surf whatever and your craving for dope is minimal. A cold beer and your out to it. I'd skate all the nervous energy/frustration out of me. Synthetic weed however is a different and evil beast best thrown into the bin or flushed down the crapper. I've had with drawl from AM 2201 and others that were VERY similar to withdrawing from H, shakes, sweats, fever, nausea, can't move cause you feel so shit, the shits, vomiting just fucking awful. They only last a day or so however that is one fucked up day! Just smoke weed the with drawl is mainly psychological that synthetic shit is both psychological and physical. I guess cause they bind so strongly to CB1 and CB2 receptors vs cannabis. Now days I just post about dope on BL however that grow thread has me more than a little nostalgic...
 
I might be a little more motivated. I might have a bit of a more capable memory. But I'm not stoned and I am missing a part of myself. I am a highly anxious and agitated individual at times.

Getting off the weed is certainly not an end-all-cure-all. An extended break is something I really need because I have developed a strong dependency, both physically and mentally to cannabis. I haven't had a good break in my entire adult life. My body is recovering nicely, but my cravings linger on. I would like to go back to the days where I could get high without craving another hit during or after the high. To get there, unfortunately I need to stay away from cannabis for at least a year. I am not sure that it will get easier with time. I really do love to smoke that weed. It is going to be worth it in the end, because this is what I need to do in order to learn how to moderate my use of the drug. I smoke weed to get high, and also for meditative purposes, and habitual use is not the best methodology for that. I'd like to get stoned once a week, but I just won't be capable of that for a while.
 
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I have built up my tolerance to Cannabis concentrates (BHO,WAX,SHATTER, ECT.) to consuming about 1.5-2 grams daily for the past month. I do not usually consume any concentrates until the later afternoon and generally I smoke up I fall asleep.

I have recently - past couple weeks, now - been experiencing this morning sickness. I am not able to eat anything, I feel nauseous, and have vomited every morning, eventaully. This uneasiness usually lasts until I vomit, OR consume some sort of Cannabis.

Is it possible I have built some sort of dependence to the the Cannabis? There is nothing else that has changed AT ALL in the last month which makes me believe more it is some sort of dependence thing going on.

ANyone have any other ideas?
 
I would sure love to be able to use cannabis every few days, without fiending for another hit once I come down. That is how it has always been with the other drugs that I have used, as I have only ever been a slave to cannabis. I think the difference is that I started using cannabis at a very young age; coupled with the phenomenon of peer pressure I just couldn't handle using it responsibly as a teenager, and ever since I have had a strong dependency, mentally and physically to the substance, which has kept me stoned for years. It really has been a bitch to get off the stuff. I estimate that it will take around 2 years of total abstinence before I can handle responsible use, considering that even at day 38 I have intense cravings and obsessive thoughts over the pot. Cannabis, along with mushrooms, has been a contributing factor in awakening my being to the spiritual path so I would prefer not to give it up forever. I just have a big problem with being a drug addict.

My thinking is that there exist receptors for cannabinoids in the digestive tract, which directly stimulate appetite somehow. Or since the brain is closely interconnected with this system, it might just be a neurological thing. Whatever the case, cannabis is an appetite stimulant that acts on receptors for cannabinoids in the human body; the so called munchies effect. When these receptors are overstimulated on a habitual basis, then your receptors will be downregulated, which means they sort of turn themselves off to compensate for the overstimulation. Also, your endocannabinoids - the chemicals in your body which mildly stimulate the same receptors - are probably overpowered by the THC and rendered useless. I think that the human body can become dependent on THC and stop producing these endocannabinoids. I think that this is when dependency arises.
 
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I have been a steady marijuana user pretty much since I started smoking. I've had to stop before and had no problem. Now I've been trying to for a job and things just haven't been workin out. Stress anxiety nausea an loss of apptite as symptoms of wd.

When stopping before I was doing oxy a lot and I've been wondering lately if that's why it was so easy. And I only had to stop doing the pills for three days to pass a test. Not so bad
 
I started smoking when I was 13, by the time I was 15 I was staying high all day every day, I just turned 30 in january.

When I say that I would stay high all day every day I dont mean Id smoke a ton of weed, Id smoke just enough to get high (usually 1-3 rips) then Id put it down until I no longer felt high (usually like 2-4 hours) then smoke again. 1/8 oz to 1/4 oz would last me all week.

I stuck to pretty much the same dosage all these years, except for a period of about a year after I graduated high school when I was smoking nothing but huge gravity bongs and blunts all day with my buddies. During that year or so I would often go through 1/4oz in a single day. Eventually my mind just went to mush and I was basically the typical lazy burnout steriotype, so I decided enough was enough and cut back down to the usual smoking patterns.

Anyway when I was 28 I quit cold turkey, mostly for my job but also because deep down I wanted to quit. I can definitely say cannabis does have some physical withdrawal symptoms.

1. Mild Insomnia: Id have a hard time falling asleep at night, and even after eventually falling asleep Id wake up every hour or so. I just couldnt get a solid deep sleep. I tried using chamomile and valarian root tea, it helped a little but it wasnt a miracle cure or anything. People suggested I try melatonin but Im strongly against messing around with hormones. Anyway this lasted for about 1-2 months after quitting

2. Mild Anxiety: I was unable to just sit back and relax. Id constantly feel uncomfortable and twitchy even, as if I drank too much coffee or something despite avoiding caffeine. Id always be pacing back and forth whenever I found myself with nothing to do, unable to just sit down and chill. My palms were constantly sweaty. Id have bouts cold sweats or hot flashes thoughout the day for no apparent reason. Id often wake up soaked in sweat. This also went on for 1-2 months.

3. Loss of Appetite: I'd often go all day without eating anything, just wasnt ever hungry. Id stick to my schedule and make breakfast, lunch, and dinner as usual but Id end up just taking two or three bites and tossing it out because I didnt feel like eating. This lasted for about two weeks.

4. Vivid Dreams: When I did eventually get some sleep I would have these very vivid and sometimes lucid dreams that I would remember crystal clearly after waking up. When it started happening it surprised the hell out of me because I couldn't remember dreaming like that since I was a kid. Over the years it seems I had simply stopped remembering my dreams, as if I werent dreaming at all, but I never realized it. I feel like this one was more of a cool/positive symptom, but a symptom none the less. This lasted about a month or so, then the dreams faded again and I no longer remember most of my dreams.

With all that said, the physical symptoms were nothing compared to the psycholocial side of the addiction. To this day (about 2 years after quitting) If I see people smoking or if I smell it I start craving it really bad and have to seperate myself from the situation immediaty to avoid falling into old habbits. I imagine thats something Im just going to have to live with for the rest of my life, just have to stay strong. For the longest time I just couldnt stop thinking about smoking at all and was fiending for it 24/7, but I did eventually get to the point where I no longer think about it without external factors.
 
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Quitting Cannabis for good

So I've been smoking for many years now been through a lot personally and realized cannabis isn't for me. I don't blame bud for any of my troubles but I've come to the conclusion it's time for me to quit. The reason is because I've been suffering from depression and social anxiety this past year. I don't know why this has started but it made me a different person towards my family and girlfriend. I've been trying to quit several times and talked to friends about quitting but they always factor in that "nobody ever quits weed". Which could be true, but I feel mentally i'm strong enough to overcome this. Back in early March I started my path to soberness for about 4 days until I went on a Big Bear trips with my friends and smoked a bowl one day than 2 bowls the next after that I've stopped completely for about 19 days now and it's been very tough. I know I've only started detox but I feel really good about myself with my sense of determination and less motivation to smoke. The first week was hell for me with having panic attacks, inability to sleep, and several mood changes. Now I feel very calm and in control of my emotions. Before in the past, bud never really made me feel depressed or sad, it made me happy. Several years have passed and I've started feeling more empty and sense of loneliness started to creep in. I completely started to feel isolated and realized this was an addiction. It went from smoking weed just to relax to daily use and after dissatisfaction with life in it's self. My motivation to quit comes from within simply because I want to put in end to this depression and conquer it. I feel more and more motivated each day to continue my education finish and stay sober. I have nothing against people who smoke marijuana or anyone affiliated with it. I find myself in desperate need to find a hobby, I might go back to working out possibly playing more basketball, put school as a priority, work more hours. I felt I pushed many people away because of this drug and i'm finally calling it quits. If anyone here experienced anything close to what I have encountered please write back. I want to know from people how long will it take possibly to get marijuana out of my system completely. Will it take 30, 45 days? Either way i'm done for good and I know naturally my body will cleanse and I drink plenty of water. I know I have a long way to go, some encouragement would be thoughtful.
Thank you
 
I started smoking at 13, was staying high 24/7 by 15, quit at 28, I'm 30 now.

It does get easier. Best thing to do is just stay occupied to keep your mind off it. If necessary separate yourself from friends who smoke. Take pride in having quit, and don't let people influence you back into it no matter how appealing it may seem at the time. Don't fool yourself into thinking "just this one time".

Insomnia, loss of appetite, and feeling of anxiety should fade within a couple weeks of quitting. Soon after you should begin feeling a sense of clarity and alertness that you never realized you had lost. You start to get some of the spark back and life begins to feel fresh and meaningful again. Psychological attachment can take quite a while longer. I still get cravings when I see or smell people smoking, and have to separate myself from the situation. I'm afraid thats probably something that will never go away completely.
 
Started at 13 too and basically became 24/7 after a few months, quit at 18 for 5 years, then I started up again, off and on. I'm 27 now.

Cannabis was cool and all as a teenager, loved the high before the tolerance developed and it was crucial for enhancing trips and rolls and just fantastic for all around binges, but it just doesn't fit my lifestyle anymore. Maybe, maybe if I smoked like once every six months that would be fine. But like Nemodeus is saying you are just fooling yourself if you have addictive tendencies.

Why don't I like cannabis anymore? Because it lowers my testosterone with regular use, it fogs my mind with regular use, and just demotivates me overall, there's no way I can maintain my martial arts training and peak physical performance if I use cannabis regularly. Because the people in my life now don't use cannabis and live wholesome, mindful existences, without having the need to pollute their minds on a daily basis.

Notice how I said regularly.

Using cannabis as an entheogen is a completely different story. All things in moderation after all. But then we have to take into consideration how cannabis makes us behave and how habit forming it can be... For some of us certain things are just better off avoided completely.

My life is so much richer without using cannabis habitually, and for me there is no moderation with this plant. Either I live the lifestyle of a potsmoker and grower, and I really don't want to take that path for my life, or I rise up and become the greatest version of myself possible.

For me, character and spiritual development, along with physical development, leave no room for cannabis. I am still working my way through entheogens trying to reach the end of the line with feeling a desire to put something into my body to change the way I feel.

Buddhism and meditation are the tools I hope to ultimately rely on to reach the ultimate destiny...

You will struggle, Letsbereal, that's for sure. For me I had to find something in life that was more valuable to me than catching a buzz from the green, I hope you find something positive for yourself...hope,

 
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I was once a heavy smoker , but cannot regard cannabis as addictive in the sense that some other drugs are .
At worst when doing without I may have had minor troubles sleeping or become a little stressed [ wanting a smoke ] , but if I kept my mind occupied I did not really notice any withdrawals .... I guess I smoked to relieve boredom at the time , as well as socially , etc ...
I am inclined to suspect that cannabis can become " habit forming " , but in no way do I consider it to be " addictive " .

Nowadays I am finding that " less is more " - in that I smoke much less nowadays , but in doing so gain more from its beneficial properties ...
 
Please don't use the word detox when talking about cannabis man
There isn't a detox process for cannabis
 
On another note, cannabis IS PSYCHOLOGICALLY ADDICTIVE
I am living proof
I've stolen stuff to pay for weed
 
So is food. Thats not saying much. The whole idea that something can be "not at all addictive" is a misnomer.

Psychological addiction has little to do with the substance and everything to do with ones personal psychology.
 
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So is food. Thats not saying much. The whole idea that something can be "not at all addictive" is a misnomer.

Psychological addiction has little to do with the substance and everything to do with ones personal psychology.
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I agree completely. I also think the term addiction is widely misunderstood and misused. Harvard University's Dr. Lance Dodes changed my entire view on what a true addiction is.
 
Thanks for the posts you guys, this really helps along the process on the road to sobriety. I believe it was "habit forming" in the sense that I was always going to put off whatever I would "have" to do in order to smoke. I've been sober so far and it feels great! While moderation may help people stay balanced, there are certain things you should stay away from. Yes, food can be addictive but don't all human beings possess addictive personalities? Please elaborate
 
Time for me to cut back down again, slowly went back to the throughout the day smoking whereas I had been only doing it at nights and never had any problems in regards to tolerance, the actual euphoria it produced... and looking forward or enjoying that winding down with a few cones at night.

Now I am waking and baking, and keeping it topped up throughout the day, have been hitting the gym up stoned too which is affecting my diet and obviously training. I find when I am high I just want to cheat on my meals and when I'm not high eating can be a little tedious.

Previously I would religiously smoke upon getting home from the gym at night, cooking my post workout meal and eating it without any cravings for junk then I would wind down and go out with a few mates or see a girl or just laze around etc etc... Now I am finding I am just smoking to be stoned and have become an unproductive fucker who is stuck in a rutt.

Time to take hold again.
 
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