• CD Moderators: someguyontheinternet
  • Cannabis Discussion Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules

[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal

Weed is addictive more so than alcohol. I think that because with alcohol you get the bad hangover but with weed you don't.
 
Last edited:
Homegrownuk said:
Yer lots of people go to cannabis anonymous eh?
Click to expand...
I said it is more addictive but not more destructive. I'm really addicted to breathing oxygen also so I don't know if people should freak out over being addicted to it unless it interferes with living a decent life.
 
Most drugs are addictive to different people. Many people who don't like cocaine will like cannabis; many people who don't like cannabis will like cocaine. Everybody likes heroin, but that's cheating. The thing is: it's you who gets addicted. It's not the drug casting a spell on you. It's some particular difficulty you experience, some perception, that smoking weed alleviates: addiction is your problem.

It's rare, of course, to realize this. Obviously if you're bipolar and marijuana alleviates mood swings you're gonna smoke it. Maybe you even should. Or if you, like me, have scoliosis, you want to have a stash around all the time in case it flares up. But if you, like me, were also abusing marijuana for some other reason -- maybe your father blamed you for your parents' separation or something, I don't know, maybe your mother used to hit you out of anger -- you might benefit from psychotherapy, not just rehab.

Sometimes, of course, you've just developed the habit of smoking so goddamn much that you don't know how to function without being high. That's rare, but a forum titled "Cannabis Discussion" is going to attract such people, and I can see we have an unnatural concentration of them in this thread. I know this because I have never, in all the time I've been smoking weed, met a real-life gram-a-day smoker. They're out there, but it ain't common. Chances are, if you're this guy, you just need to quit. I don't know how you got that habit, but you probably won't ever be able to smoke marijuana again. If you do anything often enough, long enough, you start to depend on it like this. See also: "addicted to facebook".
 
When I stopped using facebook, I was instantly happier and never went back. I wasn't up all night, freaking out and feeling like I am going to have a heart attack, even with melatonin and 12 beers deep, which is occuring as I come off of my 5 gram a day habit, which I developed in the same way as that of most other drug addicts to any other substance... I just really like pot more than being sober and more than any other drug on this planet and took it much too often for too many years because I wanted to have a great time getting blazed and enjoy life to the max and I was absolutely a functional addict... then started getting physical withdrawal symptoms and insane cravings which fucked me over completely and got me smoking more and more and more...
Click to expand...

Well, yeah, marijuana is a substance, you have a physical dependency, keyword "dependency"; addiction is mental, dependency is chemical. This doesn't happen with facebook, but it does happen with, say, sugar: people who are used to drinking 10 Mountain Dews in a day will experience low blood sugar for a long time when they quit. Five grams is a shit-ton of weed, your body had to adjust to handle it, one way or another it has to adjust back, too.

I don't think most people are quite as cavalier about marijuana as you imply. I don't really normally get this vibe:

the general vibe among stoners is "man, just smoke it all you want, it can't do fuck all and if it messes with you then it's just because you're a pussy and it's all in your head, it's not even real man"
Click to expand...

Of course, maybe that's because the social role I'm used to playing is telling other people to be careful, God only knows how I became such a jackass busybody, but whatever. I think it's you that chose to be cavalier. I think your self-image is distorted with the result: you don't want to believe that you, in particular, became addicted to cannabis as a result of the person that you are. Of course, that's the only logical possibility here, other people didn't get addicted and you did, let's take a look at the evidence:

rave_itsrealfun said:
It's like I was always meant to be one of those people who never partook in smoking pot because I didn't need it in my life and it brought me down. I liked shrooms much more but those are worthless to me now, as a dope fiend. However, I have turned out to be the biggest pothead of all, out of every single person I have ever known in life. I like being active and confrontational - as a dominant male -I was never meant to live life so passively.
Click to expand...

rave_itsrealfun said:
I am an exercise fiend. In fact, I have probably spent more time in the gym and riding my bike then you ever will in your life Arci, and I also could probably beat the living fuck out of your stupid, sorry ass.
Click to expand...

rave_itsrealfun said:
3 miles? Sorry, but I'm not a pussy. I do at the very least 10k, 3 times a week with all sorts of other workouts in between and in the past I have done marathons.
Click to expand...

rave_itsrealfun said:
This is obvious to me because of how intelligent I am, how much potential I once had, I even have advanced degrees and went through intense schooling, only to fuck it all up taking too many drugs. I had the best marks of all, breezed through higher education.
Click to expand...

Man, if I was reading this from someone who didn't smoke weed at all, I'd still think there was something wrong with them. Keep the /b/tard psychobabble where it belongs: between homeopathy and intelligent design on the bullshit shelf. Somewhere along the line people decided to take pride in having poor self-control, it's stupid.

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here: Cannabis is you, setting yourself up to fail. You built an incredible self-image of a hidden "you" that the world can't see complete with an elaborate fantasy of might-have-beens:

rave_itsrealfun said:
if I ever got off this shit, I would be doing a hell of a lot for society
Click to expand...

There's a club for that, it's called "everyone", and they meet at the bar. As long as you don't have to test the fantasy, you don't risk losing it. You're safe from questioning your abilities, as long as you make sure you're stoned enough that they can't be relevant.

It's totally normal. It happens all the time, mostly to smart kids who don't ever want to stop being smart kids. The easy way out: die young.

And presumably, that's why all of your attempts to quit, in the past, have failed. Because even if you can make it through withdrawal -- you can handle quitting -- you still can't handle reality.
 
I am an exercise fiend. In fact, I have probably spent more time in the gym and riding my bike then you ever will in your life Arci, and I also could probably beat the living fuck out of your stupid, sorry ass. Your post was so pompous and ignorant, that if I knew you in real life you'd be leaving with a black eye and a bloody broken nose.
Click to expand...

Wow, this one of the most suspect sentences someone can say in a thread. Barely anyone knows each other here, so anyone could totally and utterly lie about anything they wanted to. I'm probably wrong, but the way you speak of your strength reminds me of how young, insecure, people sound. You might be telling the truth, but saying it the way you did on a pretty civil forum makes you look like a liar and a jerk. Who the hell wants to deck someone just cause they disagreed with them, and it was not a very aggressive disagreement either. Can't you see how that sentence is suspect and doesn't advance your argument?

Also, are you sure you're smoking weed... I've never seen that kind of aggression in a hardcore stoner. Do you do any other drugs, or take steroids... It kinda sounds like you need anger management. Going from 0 to 60 after 2 counter posts... You're a smart guy. You know that looks bad.

Man I completely agree with you. I'm just a really aggressive guy with a whole lot of issues
Click to expand...

That's what's up. Honesty is essentially credibility on forums like this one. Seriously, I'm not trying to call you out, I'm just pointing out how that sentence sounds.
 
Last edited:
Rave_itsrealfun, Have you ever tried taking mushrooms and thinking about your relationship with cannabis?
 
rave_itsrealfun!!! said:
To continue my rant, which should become less aggressive with increasing clarity as time continues to pass, these anti-psychotics keep the mania at bay and I really need them right now to get through this. I mean, they were prescribed by a weed addictions expert who says all his weed fiends swear by the stuff. It's easy to see why. It makes me feel like I am tripping the fuck out. I've seriously got that spine tingling "trip vibe." It's like I am on an extremely lucid, physically benign, mild and relaxed version of a combination of mushrooms and mdma. I have very heightened visual awareness like I normally do on psychedelics. I'm noticing all sorts of crazy shit about the visual atmosphere of my living quarters, that I didn't notice before. Man, smoking weed ruins my visual awareness. I get locked up in my mind and I can't even pay attention to what is going on around me. Smoking weed destroys my ability to intrepret and explore forms of visual art. This is wonderful, to begin to connect with the crazy reality through my eyes and created in my mind. Man, it's making me feel like this is all just one big, bad trip. It's going to end, like all trips there is a final destination. I should probably stop taking these meds before they make me schizophrenic, but I will certainly need them for another week or so as I continue on my extended, long term comedown from cannabis abuse.

I had a strange dream, it was way back in time when I was living somewhere that I had a couple of plants. I went to water them, and they had disappeared.
Click to expand...

Do you really think that taking more drugs (especially prescription anti psychotics) to help you feel normal from your drug use is going to solve anything?
 
Raves_itsrealfun

You kinda sound like a broken record about how weed totally ruined your life. You seem to just post your life story about your life being ruined. Are you on other drugs? It kinda sounds like it. Either way, your addiction and descent to the point you'd call yourself a junkie is so far anyone different from anything I've ever heard of... ever. Not even the Rastas that smoke weed all day.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but you need help. If your addiction is this debilitating and you have unlimited money, which you mentioned in a previous post, you should really think about checking yourself into rehab.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top