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[Mega] Anxiety and Paranoia Help / Discussion Thread

I will admit, I didn't thoroughly read you whole post, but it sounds like you may just been getting too high, too fast. High cbd strains of weed tend to be better for anxiety while low cbd/high thc strains can induce panic attacks.

Either read it all or dont bother reading at all, its not just oh he smoked too much and got a panic attack, it goes alot deeper than dat is more complex. I know about cbd strains, believe me both cause the same reaction, sativas worst though.
 
Same thing happened to me. Also have ADD, have had periods of psychosis, mania, severe anxiety/panic disorder. Cannabis used to remedy all these issues but then i became addicted to benzos, then opiates, then benzos again and repeated that cycle a bunch of times. So after all that bullshit, like almost 4 years of addiction, i just cannot smoke cannabis without etizolam or benzos and even then if i take more than one hit, i get uncomfortably high, i just don't like it at all. I can use psychedelics fine and take dexedrine everyday and i'm actually much happier with the dexedrine/etizolam combo and doing much better in life/school with it than i ever was when smoking cannabis daily, abusing benzos or addicted to opiates.

My father has similar issues as I do but smokes cannabis daily and has for well over 30 years. He never did the whole benzo/opiate/stim abuse thing, but did a fair number of psychs. He's diagnosed with bipolar, the one with mania and depression though, i have more issues with anxiety/dp/dr.

I've read of many others who've had this same issue after benzo/opiate addiction. I think my benzo abuse played a big role in ruining cannabis for me. I can still take a small hit every few hours and i won't get panicked or get anxiety, definitely prefer an indica, hate sativas, but for some reason i can smoke hash oil like there's no tomorrow, but still only while using etizolam or benzos.

I wish i could go back to being a big stoner because things were more simple back then, didn't have to worry about seizures and dying or going through withdrawals or seeing a psychiatrist, but honestly, i spend less money now on drugs, do much better in school/life and am in general much happier, though my moods fluctuate when dexedrine wears off and i have a fear of one day having to come off stimulants and etizolam, as all my mental issues come back in full force and do not go away, even after 1.5 years. Opiate dependency sucked though, hated life then, much better off now. Without etizolam, i am agoraphobic, depressed, apathetic, can't socialize, have DP/DR and insane anxiety with daily panic attacks. Without the dexedrine i can't focus worth shit, have no motivation, get irritable when there are too many things going on around me and other symptoms of ADD.

my theory is that these mental issues manifested in my late teens/early 20s while i was a stoner and escalated around 23-24, at which point i sought out alternative treatment with benzos and then self medicated from there on out. Even after quitting benzos for over a year, i still couldn't smoke cannabis at all, so either i caused myself a worse anxiety disorder than i already had or it just really hit its peak the same time i was recovering from benzos, i don't know. I've had ADD since i could remember though, but it was untreated. When i started taking dexedrine my life changed dramatically, marks shot up by like 20% in school despite the fact it's getting more and more difficult. I am at the top of my class, can focus for hours on end and my old photographic memory is getting more and more clear, instead of more and more blurry like when i was just smoking cannabis all day for years.

i can't recommend it, but it works for me so long as i don't run out of etizolam and don't lose my dex script. Try smoking 1 or 2 hits of really shitty weed, that's about all i can handle anymore.

Hey thanks for sharing, it is nice to hear from someone who seems to go trough the same issues. Im thinking the same thing, that more than one or 2 htis of shitty weed max, or panic city lol. Im curious though, do you get stoned from that, or just have mild effects? And about the adderal i know it helps in some way , iwas prescribed it for a year. Im 19 fyi. Stimulants along with weed are the drugs i abused the most, with alcohol and beznos in close second. I did alot of coke,meth and rarely crack since at 16, at 17 i was psrecibed adderal. PRoblem is i cant control myself with stimulants. I was given 60 mg a day, but i would almost always go over 200 mgs in a a few days, sometimes i even reached 300(not at once, overs the course of a few days). On the weekend i substied with coke n meth lol. But now everything amphetamine related makes me very anxious, but i hvent tried dexedrine though. I would love to vie it try as its different then adderal. ATM the onkly stimulants i can manage is good quality coke or crack, i did some recently and was ok xcept on the comedown. But im gonna follow your advice, a imma take 2mg clonazepam and a few tokes of shit weed. I hope i can go back to it though.
 
just mild effects really, can't get super high like i used to, if i take 2 hits off my volcano of a really potent strain high in THC then i'll just get too high and feel uncomfortable and likely end up taking more etizolam which dampens the high anyway. Yeah amps will make most people pretty anxious, especially those prone to anxiety. If you're using them for ADD though you don't have to take a monster dose that will give you a panic attack but if you can't really control yourself then i guess you just have to leave your ADD untreated. Dexedrine is a lot more smooth but if you take 80mg, you will definitely get some anxiety. But 20-30 mg at once and it's quite smooth and extremely effective (it's quite potent but i find most people with ADD need a much higher dose than someone without ADD), doesn't ever give me anxiety and there's hardly any come down, compared to street meth or methylphenidate or pretty much every stimulant i've ever tried.

last time i got really high was from smoking home made hash oil from a pretty potent hybrid while on about 8-10mg of clonazepam and i was also vaping etizolam at the time which isn't very smart lol but that was the mania/hypomania coming out at the time. I have some real nice sour diesel right now (my gf smokes cannabis daily) but i don't even want to try it, just give me garbage shit weed and i'm okay with it. I can't handle the super potent strains anymore, it sucks but i haven't found a way to get back to my old self and have just accepted that i can't smoke like i used to anymore. It sucks because it used to be so much fun.
 
Either read it all or dont bother reading at all, its not just oh he smoked too much and got a panic attack, it goes alot deeper than dat is more complex.



You're absolutely right and I'm sorry I short-changed you by skimming over before I initially replied. I think I've worn out my usefulness here, though, but Robot seems like he'd be a much better person to talk to about this anyways.
 
You're absolutely right and I'm sorry I short-changed you by skimming over before I initially replied. I think I've worn out my usefulness here, though, but Robot seems like he'd be a much better person to talk to about this anyways.

Its alright mane, i reread my post and ii responded pretty rudely, i apologize. Your opinions are welcome though it wont hurt :)
 
just mild effects really, can't get super high like i used to, if i take 2 hits off my volcano of a really potent strain high in THC then i'll just get too high and feel uncomfortable and likely end up taking more etizolam which dampens the high anyway. Yeah amps will make most people pretty anxious, especially those prone to anxiety. If you're using them for ADD though you don't have to take a monster dose that will give you a panic attack but if you can't really control yourself then i guess you just have to leave your ADD untreated. Dexedrine is a lot more smooth but if you take 80mg, you will definitely get some anxiety. But 20-30 mg at once and it's quite smooth and extremely effective (it's quite potent but i find most people with ADD need a much higher dose than someone without ADD), doesn't ever give me anxiety and there's hardly any come down, compared to street meth or methylphenidate or pretty much every stimulant i've ever tried.

last time i got really high was from smoking home made hash oil from a pretty potent hybrid while on about 8-10mg of clonazepam and i was also vaping etizolam at the time which isn't very smart lol but that was the mania/hypomania coming out at the time. I have some real nice sour diesel right now (my gf smokes cannabis daily) but i don't even want to try it, just give me garbage shit weed and i'm okay with it. I can't handle the super potent strains anymore, it sucks but i haven't found a way to get back to my old self and have just accepted that i can't smoke like i used to anymore. It sucks because it used to be so much fun.

Thanks for the advice on dexedrine, i mite do that, go with like 30 mg at a time. In the worst ill tak a bit of benzos with it lol. Vaping etizolam?really does it work? im kinda sceptic lol and i heard its harfmul. Care to share :P ? I feel you on the weed part, when i see my friends they all smoking crazy purp,diesel,skunk,kush all the good strains and i can just enjoy the smell. :( I think ill have to accept it as well....strangest thing is i dotn feel sober even when im sober i dont know how to explain it...
 
I would avoid stimulants and psychedelics, but I don't think cannabis is a bad thing for a schizophrenic necessarily.

...meaning, it probably is for the majority of them, but there can and will be exceptions who will probably get relief from their psychotic symptoms from cannabis.

You might not believe me... but remember, I get anxiety/stress relief from cannabis, whereas I know plenty of people who get tons and tons of anxiety on cannabis.
 
I would avoid stimulants and psychedelics, but I don't think cannabis is a bad thing for a schizophrenic necessarily.

...meaning, it probably is for the majority of them, but there can and will be exceptions who will probably get relief from their psychotic symptoms from cannabis.

You might not believe me... but remember, I get anxiety/stress relief from cannabis, whereas I know plenty of people who get tons and tons of anxiety on cannabis.
Oh i do believe you before this shit happened i NEEDED weed almost like now i do needb enzos to relive the anxiety and anger. THe only thing it used to make worse was apranodi but in large amounts :P. I think a good part of my problem is psychological, like meaning i have to to overcome it myself, im just scared to off a panic attack from hell again.
 
Hey Guys,

I don't come around here often, but I've recently got hold of some cannabis. I've tried a lot of drugs in the last few years, mainly opiates, benzos and deliriants, but I've always avoided stimulants (besides MDMA), psychedelics, dissociatives and cannabinoids. From what I can gather from the wealth of information that's available online it seems that cannabis is contraindicated with schizophrenia (especially paranoid schizophrenia, which I have) but I'm unable to figure out if that from short or long term use, and wether it's propaganda or truth.

Put simply, I would like to try it once - just to see what it would be like - but would I risk screwing my mind up permanently? Bearing in mind that I currently take antipsychotics that block even the effects of most deliriants. Just need it plain and simple. If not, is there anything that isn't common knowledge (i.e. in propaganda) that I should be aware of before I try?

Thanks a lot! :)

Are you on medication for your schizophrenia? I am prescribed 4mgx2daily of Risperidone for my Schizophrenia. I smoke weed everyday without issue. I find the Risperidone blocks any Paranoia and Anxiety, but it also blocks out Happiness and motivation good emotions like that. I'm a dull zombie until I smoke weed, then I'm more personable I find. Some people even on medications may have problems with using marijuana, but in my personal case, it seems to not be causing any problems (other than the fact the dorwziness of the weed and the drowziness of the Risperidone stack cumulatively, causing some INTENSE feelings of falling asleep. I reccomend not driving when using both at once as I have fallen asleep while driving when using Risperidone and Marijuana at the same time.)

My post is kind of all over the place (like my mind haha), I hope I helped you!
 
Well, I tried it and it didn't go too well. Started off good, nice and chill, and then crashed straight into hallucination fuelled paranoia. At which point I stopped. Didn't bring out anything that wasn't already there though, and I'm going to assume that it'll fade with time.
 
Just wanted to make a positive note on the whole anxiety thing. I usually get really really anxious on cannabis. Especially sativa's. Like I'm talking just having my friends just talk about lighting up while I'm in their presence got my heart racing and gave me that panicky trapped feeling. I decided to stop trying to make it work for me after seeing some guy fully lose his mind on kronic and piss himself. In my head I was like "how far away am I from totally losing my shit on this stuff"? So I took a 3 week break and then the other day some friends and I went to a concert which turned out to be like an Australian 420, EVERYONE had a joint. My boyfriend also was in possession of some lovely home grown bud that gives a very euphoric high so long story short I smoked and for the first time in about 4 months had a great time on it. So my new rule which I've found really helps with anxiety is treat Mary Jane like a very special lover as opposed to a whore. What that means for me is, no filthy bongs at parties, no drunken car sessions, no smoking with weird strangers, no buying filthy weed. Just special, relaxed occasions with your best mates and good buds. So far I've found that when I treat cannabis with respect I've been getting much nicer highs :).
 
Seriously just do a CWE on some co codomal and then smoke some weed after it. No paranoia or anxiety
 
I recently stopped smoking weed about 4-5 months ago due to anxiety/paranoia. I had been smoking almost daily for about a year and a half. As far as I can remember I've always had some general and social anxiety, but I don't remember having much paranoia. Since quitting my paranoia has decreased quite a bit, not completely though, but I can manage it a lot better without getting so overwhelmed. The funny part about my anxiety though is that I feel that my general anxiety has increased while my social anxiety has decreased. Anyone else get this? Also I'm curious if anyone has any insight as to whether tripping/rolling a few times a year will hinder my progress to overcoming these problems + things like memory loss from weed and an apathetic attitude?
 
I think one of the best things people who are anxious or experience anxiety while smoking bud should do is try an obtain as heavily an Indica based strain they can get. In my experience, any one who doesn't grow marijuana can't completely distinguish the difference between a sativa or indica, plus considering almost everything in my area is a 60/40 hybrid. Even as a habitual cannabis smoker, depending on the circumstances a heavy sativa can even make me trip out. When smoking an indica, sometimes it can even feel like a different drug completely ("narcotic"), with a nice body stone as opposed to a trippy high.

I personally can't picture someone having an anxiety/panic attack off just an indica high. Very soothing.
 
there are people with schizophrenia who self medicate with cannabis.

And there are other people with schizophrenia who go into one of the worst psychotic episodes of their lives which lasts for days after using it.

I've seen it happen. If you have schizophrenia it just isn't worth it. Trust me. You might be alright but it's still not worth that risk.
 
It seems like most people agree that an indica is more calming as opposed to sativa.

Is it unnatural to feel anxious from an indica? Of course everyone is different but I was just curious. No matter what type of weed strain I smoke I get anxiety- so I just don't smoke anymore.
 
I started smoking at around 14 years old. I'm now 22. When i started smoking, it was the best, most relaxing thing I've ever done. I would not have a care in the world, no worries. Akuna-ma-ta-ta! (sp?) lol I would smoke here and there, on the weekends, it was great. Then when i turned 16, I just started getting ULTRA paranoid. It started off not so bad, but just got worse and worse. It was like every time i smoked, I just didn't know what to do with myself, got very anxious, and very very nervous. Could not even hold a conversation. It was just severe social anxiety. But it happened even when i was by myself. So i quit smoking about 2 years ago. Have smoked a few times since then, but even now when i do, i still get that severe anxiety. I just don't get it. Because when i first started smoking, all those bad side effects were non-existent. Any advice on how to smoke without getting those bad side effects? Maybe smoke and take a benzo?
 
i get relexed on weed....its really really strange for me people get panic attacks on it.
 
When I was around 16 years old, I started to get panic and paranoia. But instead of quitting I kept going. My mind got fucked up while on weed, felt like everyone was looking at me and was anxious. But I wouldn't quit because I'm fucking stubborn and don't want to label myself as a person who has these problems. So i continued smoking while, and after a while I solved my problems in my head. Last year my head said "A-HA!" and I stopped being paranoid, i suddenly just lost the feeling. And now it's like was when I started, Goooood!. You really can solve these issues in your own head, your mind is more powerful than you think. I'm 21 years now, and i so glad weed is back to normal. There was a period when i thought i was schizo etc. DON'T label yourself, ever! it's so important. It's your definitions that you put on yourself that makes the circumstances you feel. . Don't dig yourself a hole u can't get out of!
 
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