Media rhetoric about fentanyl and other narcotics

[RednecRampage]

I have advanced multiple sclerosis. By advanced I mean 100% disabled, legs don't work anymore, doing transfers is a neverending game of "can we do it this time or are we going to fall to the floor and see our favorite 911 tech to lift me back up again.
There is no cure for it, there is only pain, and pain management.

I didnt want to go there. In fact I resisted and just ate the pain for years. Why? cause It took me years to kick the bottle and when i finally did it i didnt want to jeopardize that, but a close friend said "Dude, I know you. ANd I know in the past you did your share of recreational and all that but this is different. Youre actually justified. This is a real, medical need. So you want to feel like shit for the rest of yoru life?
..>So I let em do it.

My pain level was so high, that I'm now on the max dosage you can get without adding other drugs into the mix.

SO whats this got to do with shit?

I mentioned the rhetoric... Statistics and blah blah they always throw out you. Its amazing how every drug out thre has been on the socalled 'rise of uses and ODs and death' so many times that if you do the numbers Earth would be dead a long time ago.

Fent, like any other drug, starts out killing pain and giving you the high. Then the high wears off and to get high again you start chasing the dragon . ZSame old shit right. And even the most well intentioned user will sooner or later try for that buzz if for nothing else just curiosity and tell themselves "just so i know when ive had too much you know its research. Above board"....sure sure yea. But big pharma ALWAYS uses excuses like that to get out of pain. The latest thing they're doing especially for us Vets out there, is telling us how Yoga and acupuncture and eating more fruits and vegetables will fix you up.
LOL That's the most assissnine shit i ever heard. I dont give a fuck HOW many palmagranites and tea you consume if I cut your foot off with a hatchet youre gona scream for morphine and that is fucking that.
Now, I know that no matter what, there' always gona be some skim...people are gona pocket it, take from grandma, slip some at the pharmacy, its all figured into the system in reality - stores refer to it as 'shrink' so its not like the theft is directly hurting the legit user, its not they got plenty. In fact that just helps rather than hurts it puts more out there. BPharma just bitches cause of minor, and for them i do mean minor, loss.
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So where does this leave the partying user? same deal start small.ease into it. Don't put a pack so big its beyond your tolerance witih plans to remove it cause Fent makes you pass out in big untolerant doses real quik if your cheecking and it willkeep passing into your system for awhile. Furthermore you night accedentally swallow, now we know that gastro route is much less efficient but if you swallow a near full patch its still a lot (reference info and numbers appreciated) and yupyup the same old inevitable self-lies will come and go agout how your gona save some for this and that and somehow those plans walk to the door.
And as for people that post all the dramatic ultimatums "omg its dangerous do not fuck ith this" come on give me a break. We're all fucking with drugs here of course its dangerous thats the point of this board to explore the self safely. SO I think we all already know from day one its dangerous. You can kill yourself from an OD of any of the codones out there just as sure as you can with douadalin or fentanyl so I think anyone reading this has already figured that out but hey if you feel the need to repeat it I guess go ahead. Well, thanks for reading. May your buzzes be true, long, strong and clean.

 

[TheRapperGoneBad]

Are we talking about medical vs recreational use?

Fentanyl gets a bad name from being mixed in with street heroin which then is handed to unsuspecting users who probably have no business using such a powerful opiate.

Also speaking of the recreational use of opiates the major difference I see is with a 30 mg oxy or 4mg dilaudid or morphine or whatever, you know exactly how much your taking at any given time.
To even more separate the two we arent talkin lethal doses in mcg with any of them but the fent.

 

[svacheme3]

The drug warriors and their cheerleaders in the media won't be satisfied until doctors are saying "Well, there's a 1% chance you might become an addict, so I don't care how much your end-stage cancer hurts, you're better off just doing yoga and taking a couple aspirin. And God forbid you want to take opiates for pleasure, we can't have your soul going to hell now can we? That will be $8,000 please."

This is what they already do in the ER. "Well, it's better to let 100 people suffer in agony than let 1 person obtain opiates for pleasure or to relieve sickness." is the guiding philosophy for most docs. They should have their licenses revoked.

 

[Help?!?!]

Fentanyl is sort of a bitch if your used to other opioids. Yeah your going to get fucked up but it's really not very euphoric. Many people just end up thinking, "Oh shit I just didn't do enough.", then unless their lucky, their dead. Now a days it's just a game of cat and mouse. Sensational news stories about all the new drugs while the DEA tries to pretend like they've got it all under control and there isn't 100's of thousands of kilos crossing the border every month or two via your friendly neighborhood mailman. So instead they crack down on more legimate drugs to make it look as if something is being done, but an unwinnable war is just that...