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MDPV Megathread

Well, the monkeys may also still have access to some MDPV, but they complain that it has largely lost it's appeal. The monkeys have a strong tolerance to it now and finds that the experience is empty because, like cocaine, they do not get a lasting benefit from the good times and waste a lot of time in the process. Whereas meth made the monkeys euphoric and productive on the treadmill, MDPV does not. Same with coke. Psychedelics often give the monkeys the stimulation they desire, as well as a nice afterglow. They feel like shit the next day with MDPV, and even moreso with coke. Guess all lab monkeys are not created equal.
 
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Well, the monkeys may also still have access to some MDPV, but they complain that it has largely lost it's appeal. The monkeys have a strong tolerance to it now and finds that the experience is empty because, like cocaine, they do not get a lasting benefit from the good times and waste a lot of time in the process.
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This is true, MDPV can waste a whole helluva lot of time. I don't mind personally, but could understand (very well) if someone did. I don't care for the tendency of stims to keep me awake for extended periods, but since I acquired some Seroquel that has been much less of an issue.

BTW this will probably put my sanity in question, but (aside from the blood sugar drop + boosted appetite) I've really gotten to like the effects of Seroquel ;). It often makes me feel so peaceful, w/corresponding psychosomatic euphoria. Nice "monkey mind" calmer, altho IME it doesn't do much for singular/focused obsessive thoughts. I'm not surprised there are reports of 'abuse' and dependence in the medical literature, although I don't understand co-administration with cocaine (it would just antagonize most of the neurotransmitters that cocaine agonizes or blocks reputake of).
Whereas meth made the monkeys euphoric and productive on the treadmill, MDPV does not. Same with coke. Psychedelics often give the monkeys the stimulation they desire, as well as a nice afterglow. They feel like shit the next day with MDPV, and even moreso with coke. Guess all lab monkeys are not created equal.
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Yuppers... I s'pose your monkeys get productive primarily from boosted norepinephrine then, as that's the only explanation I can think of why meth would do the trick but coke/MDPV would not (meth being significantly more adrenergic than either of the two IMO... in low to medium doses, MDPV seems a fairly pure DRI).
 
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Just for fun...

Since there's not much serious talk on this thread these days, here's a suggestion for the beginning of an "MDPV-Speak" :

* "Potato-tuber MDPV" - MDPV that has been exposed to air instead of tightly sealed (takes on the earthy odor of potato tubers). See "water-logged MDPV"

* "MDPV-ated" - instead of "high on MDPV". Comes from Deviated. "I've got an MDPVated Sextum" = increased sex drive on MDPV.

Others? ;)
 
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What the hell are you talking about MDPVagrant ?
Since people here object to my monkeys, I've switched over to lab-skinks. Their reptilian minds are more suited to stims anyways.
These chems are not as simple as binding to a norepi, serotonin or dopamine receptors. They are much more complex, and likely bind to different subtypes of each receptor, and possibly other yet to be elucidated systems as well. Sure they're all speedy, but they direct the mind in different ways. MDPV and cocaine are distracting - it is difficult for the lab skinks to focus, and they are likely to wander aimlessly around their cages, never settling on any one activity (ie-basking, catching flies, bein' skinky) for too long. The only thing they can focus on for any length of time are skinks of the opposite sex. With meth, those skinks are working on the secret tunnel out of their cage into the realm of the greater laboratory at large. They sit under the basking light with singular purpose, not to be distracted by other skinks or their white coat clad keeper with the face of C6H6's avatar. Of course, they also focus on skinks of the opposite sex, but they can focus on other things as intently as well...
 
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General alcazar said:
What the hell are you talking about MDPVagrant ?
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It's HUMOR... H-U-M-O-R. How come every time I post something sarcastic or in jest lately, everyone acts like I'm either insulting them or speaking in Martian... ? I may have a crappyass sense of humor, but people keep missing the point completely. Pffwahhtever.
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These chems are not as simple as binding to a norepi, serotonin or dopamine receptors. They are much more complex,
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Heh, MDPV tastes like potatoes... you ain't convincing me potatoes are some kind of complicagated doohickydads like that noreepi dopatone stuff they teachya in school... Taters are just durn SIMPLE, yup.
and likely bind to different subtypes of each receptor, and possibly other yet to be elucidated systems as well. Sure they're all speedy, but they direct the mind in different ways. MDPV and cocaine are distracting - it is difficult for the lab skinks to focus,
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Very interesting... MDPV tends to make my rats just as narrowly and obsessively focused as methyl(1R,2R,3S,5S)-3-(benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-8-azabicyclo[3.2.1]octane-2-carboxylate can. Not unheard of around here to literally lose full days (24-hour periods) to deep immersion in a narrow range of activities. Graduate school doesn't create the real specialists, dopaminergics do :p.
and they are likely to wander aimlessly around their cages, never settling on any one activity (ie-basking, catching flies, bein' skinky) for too long.
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Ditto mine, on the rare occasions they come up for air and do stuff like choke a bit of food down. It can definitely scatter attention, but it's equally capable of locking it into obsession... a strange two-sided coin.
The only thing they can focus on for any length of time are skinks of the opposite sex.
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Oh yah, mine too. The road of excess leads to the road of excess, which leads to the road of excess... no sign of any palaces, but there's gotta be a driveway on this cul-de-sac somewhere :p.

BTW, as regards circular paths -- I tend to enjoy watching my labrats run themselves to exhaustion on cagewheels from time to time, but I'm probably one of the most narrow, lazy & unmotivated people you'll ever run into -- most folks who think they 'need a life' would feel a helluva better after meeting me. I don't know anyone else who stays THIN sitting around & doing nothing 24/7, because they aren't motivated enough to bother much with eating. I figure it's mainly brain circuits exposed to 25+ years of on/off heavy partying (crossed with a morbidly anxious childhood), but despite popular belief it's a fairly contented state. Burying yourself in a hole really is a weirdly functional and trouble-free way to live, if you can manage to work out the particulars.

Cheers...
 
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I think I had some of this the other day but am not sure.

I understand the pitfalls of trying to identify random white powders over an interweb forum but will give it a crack anyway. I was given a cap, it was supposedly an 'Iranian' legal high, kicked in in about 15 minutes and made me real chatty and stimulated for about four hours. Apparently, it made a few people sick, and one guy who snorted a bit said it burnt like bejesus.

So what do you guys reckon? Sound like MDPV, or am I way off the mark?
 
Hmm, could be wrong about the colour, didn't open mine. Does is show a result with reagent testers?
 
The taste reminds me a little bit of a hamsters cage.
the first time I had it it was a definate menthol flavour. Latest batch has no menthol flavour. Funny tasting stuff.
started with 12mg line then 15mg 2 hours later then went to a party. Returned 5 hours later, Could hardly wait to do another 15mg then 4 hours later a 20 milligramza. Thats enough for me. I dont want to end up a "Sketchy Munta" Time for K.
 
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I've gotten to like the smell/taste, but I'm sure only because of associating it with euphoria. It's strange smelling for sure... I wouldn't say like a hamster's cage (leave that to 2C-B-BZP and I'd guess BZP) but hmm... like rotten potatoes or something. I've always thought it had a slightly rotten or fermented undertone to it.

Definitely agree about it being easy on the nose... possible to get stuffy from overdoing it, but there's no pain or burning sensation. I'm not sure how people snort it dry, as it seems to absorb humidity and become clumpy almost immediately.

P.S. just to add some hard info to the post -- I was investigating the matter recently and most likely MDPV is as legal as potato chips in the USA. It does not appear to fall under the Federal Analog Act because it's an analog of a schedule 5 substance (pyrovalerone) and the act requires the parent compound to be schedule 1 or 2. I still wouldn't use it in front of a policeman LOL, but its kind of cool something this enjoyable and fairly potent is probably legal. Of course, if they wanted to conjure up some excuse and prosecute for it they could.
 
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^ That's the beauty of UK law - there are specific chemical structure criteria which determine whether a compound is controlled or not; it's not in the hands of some non-chemist to rule it's status under the law. The 1977 modification order covering tryptamines & phenethylamines means that there are a lot more that are controlled than a lot of other countries, but with something like AMT that is outside the range of the mod. order, you can do what you want with it and be legal (as long as it only involves yourself)
 
F&B-- did you ever notice that looking at your avatar out of the corner of your eye makes it wiggle? I'm just deprived of sleep. Or not. It really does move, what the fuck ? --more--
 
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