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MDPV Megathread 8: The Girl Who Chased The Dragon's Tail

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Like I said you just can;t eyeball doses at that amount, materials vary so much in density it just doesn't work, sorry. If you have never taken this stuff before I would not advise dosing as high as that anyway, start with about 10mgs, seriously if it's good PV that will be enough and don't redose for at least an hour.

Do you know how much you have ?
 
You can get some reasonable scales from flea bay for not a lot that would be OK if you used them carefully for PV IME. Just make sure that you remove the material each time you add or take away any of it for another reading, adding whilst it's on there can lead to less accurate results.

If you don't want to snort it you could measure a larger quantity and then dissolve it in water, then measure out the water the larger quantities involved reduce the error.
 
Ipityyoubro said:
Well, I prefer to snort my powders. Was hoping I could divide it up into little bags containing how much I expect to use in a day and then just take those bags out every day and proceed to snort from there. On average what is the most someone should do within 24 hours?
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Is it really worth the risk to eyeball?
 
Search for 0.001g scales on Flea Bay, cheap ones are never going to be really accurate but used carefully they are OK for PV, just.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO EYEBALL PV OR ANYTHING THAT IS ACTIVE BELOW 20mgs...PLEASE
 
All powders are going to look different at the same dose. For instance if you had mephedrone powder and mephedrone crystal and tried to do this you would find that even though they are the same chemical, a pile of crystal will be 50% or less then the size of the pile of powder. If you are really desperate, and I mean really desperate, you could try starting at a negligable amount (im talking about the size of a grain of salt) and redosing with that same amount every x amount of minutes (someone more knowledgeable on the onset and duration can fill this in for me), until you reach desired effects. I don't recommend doing this, but you are making if clear that the usual harm reduction attempts aren't sinking in.

The problem with this is that when you are high it becomes especially hard to manage your dosages. The addictive nature of the drug can make your mind play tricks on you, and you might actually believe that a much larger dose is equivalent to the smaller dose you just did. This is a harm reduction site, and you've made it clear you aren't going to try any of the safest methods, so I guess the next logical step is to suggest a less dangerous method then just going all out and doing up whatever looks about right. I still stand by my suggestion that you either get an Mg scale, or use a combination of a less accurate scale and volumetric measurements.

Although an overdose from mdpv may not actually outright kill you, that's not to say you wont be at risk for doing something as a result of your impaired state that could potentially kill you. I used to think Lsd was safe, until I took so much it drove me to drive my car into a tree out of sheer paranoia and terror in an attempt to make the trip stop. From what ive heard even recreational doses of Mdpv are capable of putting you in a similar state of mind paranoiawise.

I'm glad you posted in here. I don't want to think about what might have happened if you treated mdpv like the commercial product "pump it" you dodged a very serious bullet, and I suspect someone might be looking out for you. Good luck, and remember we are always available to answer any question you might have, no matter how silly it may seem.
 
I am def trying to do harm reduction. I am simply saying that I do not shoot up so nor would I ever start and do not have the money right now for a scale. I am going to be asking a friend though after I recieve my product to lend me his so I can get all this figured out after reading everyones post. I always try and research something before I do it. This is why I started posting on here few days before actually recieving it. I don't want anyone on here to think that I am just some rash druggie :p Simply trying to see if eyeballing was safe as it has been with my previous experiences on different powders. I really do thank you for the post though. Was added emphasis on the need for a scale :)
 
Ipityyoubro said:
I am def trying to do harm reduction. I am simply saying that I do not shoot up so nor would I ever start and do not have the money right now for a scale. I am going to be asking a friend though after I recieve my product to lend me his so I can get all this figured out after reading everyones post. I always try and research something before I do it. This is why I started posting on here few days before actually recieving it. I don't want anyone on here to think that I am just some rash druggie :p Simply trying to see if eyeballing was safe as it has been with my previous experiences on different powders. I really do thank you for the post though. Was added emphasis on the need for a scale :)
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If you have money to buy drugs you have money for a scale, the financial excuse doesn't really work as you can get cheap milligram scales online for 20 quid.
 
I did not purchase. It is being sent from a friend as a birthday gift. I recently moved states so this is why I do not have money (currently). I can ask him to send a scale now that it is obvious i need one, but like i said, will more than likely have a friend here lend me his.
 
Yeah if you can just borrow one and its accurate enough, then definitely weigh everything out right away in case he ends up needing it back soon. If its a .1g scale which it probably is then use it to confirm the weight of what you have, then try volumetric. They have whole threads dedicated to volumetric info so that is a good place to start. I hope everything goes well, you will be tempted to dig into your stash when it arrives, I know I would, but just try and hold out til you get the scale.
 
Question, does anyone have experience with theobromine/chocolate to counteract some of the vasoconstrictive affects of MDPV?

I understand its a bit risky if your HR/BP is already high from PV, but I'm thinking of low dosages of pure theobromine (40mg sublingual) with a resting heartrate of 80bpm, with noticeable vasoconstriction/chest tightness/breathing difficulty. I don't think such a low dose would raise my HR/bp that much, but could alleviate some of these side affects. I just want to be careful taking a cardio-stimulant while already on PV.

Also, if i was to try this, and hr/bp got too high, i assume benzos would be a safe bet to lower hr/bp?

I feel like i cant really enjoy PV at even low doses due to the vasoconstriction. Obviously trying to counteract that with a stimulating vasodialiator to be able to get higher is dangerous. My intention is to treat the vasoconstriction from dosing, and not take more PV. Just deal with the side affects, so the comedown is less bothersome. I really want to stress i don't advocate, or intend to use theobromine to be able to get higher on PV with less vasoconstriction. Using a stimulating vasodialiator for that purpose is just reckless imho. Just that my BP/HR isn't all that high, but vasoconstriction is noticeable.

If not, does anyone have any reccomendations for effective non-prescription vasodialiators to deal with this? Possibly capsicin? Aspirin? Vinpocentene? Low dose cannabis perhaps? I am a bit wary of cannabis though, as its going to increase HR /paranoia/risk of psychosis. Just wondering if anyone has advice for vasodialiators to use that are not dangerous with PV/stimulants in general.
 
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^^^Red wine is a very good vaso dilator. I ended up always having a glass or 2 along with meph, when i started getting vaso constriction problems (pins and needles all up arms, all over face). Red wine eliminated these problems. I got told off on drugs forum for saying this, but they can stick a cocktail stick up their japs eye.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
^^^Red wine is a very good vaso dilator. I ended up always having a glass or 2 along with meph, when i started getting vaso constriction problems (pins and needles all up arms, all over face). Red wine eliminated these problems. I got told off on drugs forum for saying this, but they can stick a cocktail stick up their japs eye.
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Drugs forum is full of wankers. I'd rather debate drugs with old bill than with that lot.
 
daytryptr said:
Question, does anyone have experience with theobromine/chocolate to counteract some of the vasoconstrictive affects of MDPV?

I understand its a bit risky if your HR/BP is already high from PV, but I'm thinking of low dosages of pure theobromine (40mg sublingual) with a resting heartrate of 80bpm, with noticeable vasoconstriction/chest tightness/breathing difficulty. I don't think such a low dose would raise my HR/bp that much, but could alleviate some of these side affects. I just want to be careful taking a cardio-stimulant while already on PV.

Also, if i was to try this, and hr/bp got too high, i assume benzos would be a safe bet to lower hr/bp?

I feel like i cant really enjoy PV at even low doses due to the vasoconstriction. Obviously trying to counteract that with a stimulating vasodialiator to be able to get higher is dangerous. My intention is to treat the vasoconstriction from dosing, and not take more PV. Just deal with the side affects, so the comedown is less bothersome. I really want to stress i don't advocate, or intend to use theobromine to be able to get higher on PV with less vasoconstriction. Using a stimulating vasodialiator for that purpose is just reckless imho. Just that my BP/HR isn't all that high, but vasoconstriction is noticeable.

If not, does anyone have any reccomendations for effective non-prescription vasodialiators to deal with this? Possibly capsicin? Aspirin? Vinpocentene? Low dose cannabis perhaps? I am a bit wary of cannabis though, as its going to increase HR /paranoia/risk of psychosis. Just wondering if anyone has advice for vasodialiators to use that are not dangerous with PV/stimulants in general.
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JUst give up on the PV?

you don't enjoy it,and you're looking for drugs to combat/remove the undesireable side-effects.

Aspirin will thin your blood and let things flow better.

I almost always use sildefinil/tadafinil with mephedrone, unless I'm just at the pub. I don't think its a good idea, but people have used stims and sildefinil in combo for years.....

I always smoke weed, all the time, didn't realise it was a vasodilator....

FWIW I really think people who panic and worry so much more about the side effects of the drugs they are taking than enjoying the positive desireable effects should just leave it alone and find a different drug.

Stims cause some degree of vasoconstriction, accept it, or stop doing them.
 
daytryptr said:
How quickly then?

I just regurgitated that from wiki without bothering to check the source of that factoid, but a bit of googling dug up some first hand reports of PV solutions going bad fairly quickly (week or two). Whats the shelf life of it in a h2o solution in your opinion?
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12 weeks.
 
Still going and going n.... goin, thinkin.... When i mix PV with other substances i lose so much more control. And i get paranoid.... But i thhought the fucking and the horneyness was just something GUYS would feel, not girls(since i never thought about it before on PV), but now that i'm horney all the time, and it's amazing!! Sex on PV is so much better, even with yourself.
 
Anatrica said:
Still going and going n.... goin, thinkin.... When i mix PV with other substances i lose so much more control. And i get paranoid.... But i thhought the fucking and the horneyness was just something GUYS would feel, not girls(since i never thought about it before on PV), but now that i'm horney all the time, and it's amazing!! Sex on PV is so much better, even with yourself.
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You know you're gonna get a fair few propositions now from the men folk on BL eh.....;) (Half thinking of 'trying it on myself' lol, but feel it would be wrong somehow. Also i suspect you dont live in the UK. My guess is Eastern Europe ?
 
GO FOR THE GOLD ANATRICA! :P Mine comes in tommorow or next day so will be going and going and going with ya
 
When smoking off foil do you make just mike a pipe, or is there some other special way to smoke PV?
 
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