MDPV Megathread 8: The Girl Who Chased The Dragon's Tail

[rockstar 69]

ffs P - pevee must be the most boring, repetitive mind numbing drug out there, someone like you who is so creative and talented, bet you're getting nothing from it. really, apart from compulsion and behaving like a lab rat?...

Fucking cease Albie even your posts are boring as fuck

For once we agree. Think it's about time Albion hung up his tin foil hat.

If you must do stimulants make sure the comedown is actually worth it.

 

[stimutant]

jesus & albion - it makes me really sad to read your latest posts. reminds me of the darkest period of my life....
please reconsider using the pv.

 

[knock]

I can't help thinking Albion is heading for a trainwreck if he keeps up his PV abuse.

You've already freaked out your parents, boy. Imagine freaking them out when you're seeing the shadow people and you've taped tin foil over the windows? You'll be headed for the psych ward, and believe me you don't want to go there. Not that I've been there, but I've visited.

 

[Albion]

Perhaps I was a bit melodramatic last night...I am sorry for being such a tool. Guess it was my turn to be the midnight tweaker...Bored, stimmed, nothing else was going through my head, I find the balance confusion amusing when it happens I'm too high to react otherwise...I'm sure someone would have laughed at me falling on my head ridiculously but it would probably bring out a new flavour of hurt in me...I'm not a wreck. Not even close, you all know it (photos of me seem to capture a blatant 'innocence' no matter what. My main vice is total boredom, more than drugs. Drugs provide a source of interest that I enjoy more than all but the most worthwhile of drug effects I've tried.

The way it is, I buy a gram of MDPV, a drug I know I will like, a popular stim known for being, besides great value for money, really euphoric and not particularly toxic on the usual organs compared to 'equivalent' stimulants..Like, it's self indulgent, it could potentially go wrong, and as questionable hedonism and personal interest is as motivation, it's not done as a self destructive act or through depression...Whether or not enthusiasm is a good thing I feel depends on how effectively its applied to the bigger picture of drug use, from gaining a layman's grasp of chemistry, knowing that you should never take over 400mg tramadol at a time, micron filter for IV users, discovering a whole new range of music through some connection or other from drugs, etc...

At the end of the day none of us are immune if something terrible happens through drug use...but like it should be something to fear.

I'm really hoping I got the job at the local Pet's Corner the other day, I feel it went well, so I may even be back out in society before September. And fwiw for the foreseeable future I'm housesharing with two female friends both on my course and both very anti drug-based intake, who both know I'm on the 'used drugs' side of the fence and will probably keep me from getting so bored as to end up trying some new RC market arrivals for the thrill of a guaranteed new type of life experience.



Anyway, while the anti PV mood is in on this page, what about the popular phenomenon of the 'MDPV Gauntlet' (don't think it has a name but it's essentially like that), when considerably more than 1g tends to get bought and binged on until everything is gone...Like it's all like diary entries throughout this thread. It's not the fact it happens that's odd, cos even 1g goes a long way, but unlike other drugs that have this capacity for causing intense binges for weeks, causing addiction and deterioration of mental health, it's sort of done in good humour and people want to relay their fucking scary experiences, and it's not so much as met with disgust (Kate ), it's met with support, responding anecdotes, usually with a funny side cos MDPV's psychosis is legendary but not feared. I mean Ektamine made a fucking hilarious rage comic about his adventure with MDPV.


I do appreciate your point, Knockando. Course I'll be a wreck if I keep up the PV use, but cranking up PV use and becoming a wreck is just a fact. I could say the same about you, technically, would still hold true! I really hate every little thing that my parents have gone through due to my bad decisions, but that era is ending. I'm moving out of home, into my first own home! No more waiting at home to start my life proper...It's going to be a permanent lifestyle change and likely to be a fulfilling era.

Kate, I bet this was even more boring for you , if you read any, it's boring for me too cos I can't write all that naturally on stims, but I don't agree with you about it suppressing creativity and talent...I spent the week making music, finished a track, involved a lot of fiddling around but it's fiddling with creative intent Last PV I bought, I made a music video that MM really enjoyed even if its lost to youtube obscurity.

Plus I made this Lego rocket from scrap lego one night on MDPV!

Say what you will, it's an excellent motivator. The enjoyment of creating deliberate meticulous design in particular seems to rock my boat... Truthfully, I have not the desire for it 90% of the time when sober. MDPV has left me with three different completed creative projects that could possibly outlive me (the lego rocket especially )


JesusGreen & I are just having fun along with the rest of yeh! Druggies judging druggies for taking drugs...Whatever next 8)

 

[TheSpade]

Time to get off the PV mate. That post was a rambling load of pish.

 

[Albion]

But I even included a picture. How rude!

 

[Arnold]

That lego thing looks fuck all like a rocket....hate to break it to ya. :D

There's a difference between use and abuse.

Re the 'not toxic on the usual organs' you might want to read this once your head is on planet earth and not planet zog with the spaceship having an intergalactic ejaculation.

 

[TheSpade]

To be fair to Albion I think it's a decent attempt at a rocket considering it was from 'scrap lego'. Still think he needs to get off the PV though, he's clearly had a bit too much.

 

[Cornishman]

Albion. Go and take some proper drugs for dogs sake.

 

[mydrugbuddy]

I'm a few days into this PV session..

With sleep inbetween, or continuous without sleep ?

and not particularly toxic on the usual organs compared to 'equivalent' stimulants.

You have changed your tune ! A couple of months ago you were informing me about the Peeve related deaths. Not least of all Ektamine. ! ;-(

I think its is very harsh on the heart, (the palpitations etc have made me feel quite unwell and worried) and of course vaping it is disasterously damaging to the lungs.

You're lucky people care about you on here, many others have posted their peeve tales on here, and nobody else has apparently given a shit about them.

Maybe I sound like one of those ex-smokers who goes round preaching about how bad cigs are to people who continue to smoke. I never did that when i gave up cigs, and im back thoroughly hooked on the cigs again now. Very rarely use pv these days though. I think ive only ordered it twice this year. And my last order was only for 500 mg knowing that i cant control the shit. It may call me back again sometime down the line, but the shit does make me worry for my health now.

 

[Albion]

With sleep inbetween, or continuous without sleep ?

I've been sleeping every night, with the best sleep last night, around 7 hours. It reset a lot of the sensory deterioration that had built up at the very least, so no more visual/auditory chaos at least...

You have changed your tune ! A couple of months ago you were informing me about the Peeve related deaths. Not least of all Ektamine. ! ;-(

Ektamine is the reason why I stress MDPV's real damage is in the mind, so much more so than the other organs...People underplay the severity of psychosis, I think, as the physical harm is more unpleasant to experience...initially.

I think its is very harsh on the heart, (the palpitations etc have made me feel quite unwell and worried) and of course vaping it is disasterously damaging to the lungs.

You're lucky people care about you on here, many others have posted their peeve tales on here, and nobody else has apparently given a shit about them.

Maybe I sound like one of those ex-smokers who goes round preaching about how bad cigs are to people who continue to smoke. I never did that when i gave up cigs, and im back thoroughly hooked on the cigs again now. Very rarely use pv these days though. I think ive only ordered it twice this year. And my last order was only for 500 mg knowing that i cant control the shit. It may call me back again sometime down the line, but the shit does make me worry for my health now.

I'm still shaken about the previous PV session's circulatory incident, that came out of the blue. I've been informed from other people and seen it around legit sources that MDPV is 'pretty physically benign for a stimulant'...And like I take their word for it and trust their reasons for this. There is still so much going on though, and in my case, there is so much to consider when I try to get to the bottom of what, why and how I ended up in that physical state.

Premature ventricular contraction
Hypovolemia
Torsades de pointes
Cardiac dysrhythmia
Hypovolemia
Ventricular tachycardia
Ventricular fibrillation
Long QT syndrome
Fatigue

They're all possible triggers, triggers of triggers, unrelated conditions interacting, etc...Even if some of them are very unlikely, fatigue, dehydration and hypertension could do it alone, and we can avoid two of them occuring even if the MDPV is causing hypertension.

Btw this is only the second time I've used PV this year too

Bought a gram in 2009 once and that's about it really.

 

[rockstar 69]

Time to get off the PV mate. That post was a rambling load of pish.

TL:DR but I got that impression myself lol.

Albion. Go and take some proper drugs for dogs sake.

Well said.

 

[Jesusgreen]

Had to get up today after just 2 hours sleep, could barely stand, so snorted 8mg of PV and it woke me right up.

I was wondering if anyone here knew if there are any contraindications to combining MDPV with herbal sleeping pills that contain extracts from: hops, passion flower and valerian root? I've found these pills give similar anxiety reducing/calming effects to alcohol, while also providing stimulation if I take more than 1/2 pills, so thought it might be a good combination, to boost the high and reduce the side effects.

If no-one knows or it's likely to be bad I'll just stick to my beer.

Also, how do people find smoking weed on the peak of this is? I love smoking weed on the peak of monoamine releasers like amphetamine, MDMA, 6-APB, but I seem to remember that smoking on Methylphenidate (which is an NDRI like MDPV) it just added to my paranoia/anxiety and was a waste of weed.. Then again, I never found Methylphenidate enjoyable at any dose I took so I may have simply been on too much.

On a semi-related note.. why do we hear of so far fewer problems with people using Methylphenidate than MDPV? Because I'm typically snorting around 10mg of MDPV each dose, with cumulative doses in a session adding up to 20-30mg, but with Methylphenidate even 10mg (snorted) caused more side-effects for me than any of my PV sessions so far, and the comedowns were hellishly depressing, anxious and paranoid, whereas with PV I tend to just have the anxiety and paranoia, both of which can be remedied by alcohol/benzos. I suppose it could simply be the fact that because Methylphenidate's high is so poor and short fewer people get tempted to redose etc for that magic rush?

Interestingly I've noticed some effects with MDPV that I did not notice with Methylphenidate, some mild empathy and during the peak I get this calm relaxed euphoria similar to Cocaine, rather than the jittery "Shit I'm too stimulated" MPH high. The only difference I could think in the pharmacology of the drugs that could cause such a significant change in high would be Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition, if PV was a triple reuptake inhibitor like cocaine.. but has it not been proven that it is only an NDRI?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

. I've been informed from other people and seen it around legit sources that MDPV is 'pretty physically benign for a stimulant'...And like I take their word for it and trust their reasons for this.

Glad to hear your not too heavily into the stuff or at least not taking it too often.

I do find it a bit ironic though that some time ago i made more or less exactly the same 'physically benign' comment in one of the other PV threads, and in reply to that you informed me about all the reports of the physical harm it has done. If you cast your mind back, someone said, not sure if it was yourself, that lots of bad PV related events have started coming to light some time after these 'physically benign' claims were made. One good point made in one article on a PV related death was that PV was never previosuly tested for in any toxigology autopsies where drugs were suspected to have been involved in a death, so no one knows how many unreported PV deaths there may have been. In the light of all of this, many people were reconsidering the whole 'physically benign' PV thing. But now, after all of this, you're coming out with the same line yourself.

Really it is preposterous to state that about something like PV. You can feel what it does to your heart at the time of taking it, palpitations, crazy fast bpm etc, (with me it was getting to the stage where i was feeling unwell; weak, light headed, breathless) god knows what's happening that you can't feel immediately, the cumulative effects on someones heart who's taking that long term. I think one can be certain that it isnt good news though. My pretty heavy PV phase only lasted about 6 months if I remember correctly, I hope I've got away without doing myself too much permanent damage.

 

[FlippingTop]

Not quite sure why everyone is flaming Albion... it's a drug forum, there are drug users. It's a stim thread, you will get stimmed up posts

Pretty decent effort on the rocket I say

 

[knock]

I liked the rocket too, tbf!

 

[Albion]

You know if I have contradicted myself multiple times about PV I wouldn't be surprised...I'm confused about MDPV. Totally...I build up a profile of its nature through experience and second hand reports, and then something happens and I have to reassess, and again and again....Dunno if anyone else finds this stuff's true capacity impossible to pin down...

And the PV I most recently try is a completely different high to the PV I try another time, familiar but as fundamentally different as the difference between male and female. I try, but I fail to understand it.

 

[Allein]

JC-G I used to take Valerian root tablets by the handful and they have never interacted badly with anything I've taken including PV I guess, somewhat foolishly I have never given them a second thought as they are "herbal" bit of a stupid approach now I think about it but all well.

I had a g of PV that I got as they banned it and it was not right at all, it was similar to PV in it's onset and duration but was way more sketchy, I carried on taking it for about 48hrs though, on the basis that I'd breakthrough the sketchyness and get to the clear headed bit in time, that didn't happen and I ended up in a right state. I've heard the same from others, PV is mystery synth wise how much is subjective and how much is chemical who knows

 

[mydrugbuddy]

Not quite sure why everyone is flaming Albion... it's a drug forum, there are drug users. It's a stim thread, you will get stimmed up posts

Pretty decent effort on the rocket I say

I'm not trying to "flame" the guy. Just trying to point out some things out that I believe need to be more widely known. He's given a great response in post #97. Im going to back off now lol.

 

[Albion]

Thanks mydrugbuddy, glad my inadequate response was somewhat satisfactory...

Tip for those on MDPV: Dioralyte. Pour a sachet into a glass of water when you know you're starting to dehydrate and you'll recover far more efficiently and you'll appreciate how fast you feel the rebalance of health.