MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

[Dedbeet]

Didn't use for 5 months then have smoked 22 g in 30 days.... Fucked up is not the word.

OMG... that is a LOT of MDPV.

I kinda miss the old pv-fuelled rants and posts on the older threads... guess it isn't as cool to ramble about it any more cuz of all the media attention and such. Kind of a shame.

 

[sockpuppet]

I miss them too....

What is the point of people abusing stimulants if those people don't entertain those of us not on stimulants??

More punding prose and marathon sex stories from all of you if you would be so kind.....

 

[rockstar 69]

Didn't use for 5 months then have smoked 22 g in 30 days.... Fucked up is not the word.

That's one of the most insane binges i've ever heard of. Hows your sanity? Surely there must be a few worthy tales of shadow people and ridiculous week long wanking binges ha.

 

[Flourish]

What's the most people have IV'd at once here? I'm interested in where have YOU drawn the line, and why? Or actually, how?

I ordered a gram of 4-FA a while ago, turns out it was actually MDPV. I didn't know this for sure until a month ago,
seeing as I didn't have any experiences with either one before.

Anyways, my doses were based on what I had read about 4-FA. I did the usual allergy test and plugged some a day before.
My first shot was 50mg - HOLY SHIT, the rush alone convinced me to do this again.
I've never experienced a "proper" amph/meth/coke/etc. rush, most likely because I've always been on SSRI's, or SNRI's.
So you can imagine the reaction, if this were your first "proper" IV rush.

I increased the dosage step by step. 50mg a few times, increasing to 100mg, 150mg and eventually to 200mg.
I must've consumed 750mg in total within four or five days, explaining the tolerance.

The experience of 200mg has to be one of my favorite memories from all the drug consumptions in the past.
Twisting in a room all alone for 30-45mins or so. At this dosage I'm glad no one else was to witness this though,
as I've noticed the higher the dosage, the more you look like you're actually having a seizure as a reaction to the waves of euphoria.
I'd like to know if this applies to others, as I couldn't find a detailed answer anywhere based on my little effort done with google.

But what made the experience really stand out, that you can actually LEARN to trigger the same wave of euphoria
you'd get after injection, what made it special because not only limited to that situation, OUTSIDE almost anywhere at anytime.
Also what I never would've expected, 8-10 hours later from the dose, getting ready to sleep - I GET THE SAME RUSH, AGAIN.
This lasted for a good 60-90mins or so, but wasn't nearly as enjoyable as I quickly realized I couldn't stop them.
Though at this point I could control the strength of them, making it much more tolerable.

I've got to share one of my hardest drug experiences as well, this with MDPV, so we're still in topic .
Not necessarily the hardest as in physical, but to actually be so shame of yourself,
that you find it hard to accept as it's already hard to imagine.

Two days ago I had consumed 50mg at 1pm, let's fast-forward to 4am when I got home.
Drunk/mildly drunk, it isn't relevant anyways, what is that I got the master plan to consume my last PV's.
I had around 300mg left, and I decided I want to re-live the 200mg experience.
Obviously no actual thought was put into this decision. In conclusion, I actually OD'd for the very first time in my life.
It took three hours before the shit really stepped in, and convinced me I screwed this.
I had to call an ambulance for myself, as I was positive something bad was bound to happen.
The fellows just measured my heartbeat and blood pressure, then saying nothing wrong here. If you wanna go to a hospital we'll take you there.
I stayed home, but regardless of the whambulancemen, I was scared shitless for many hours.

Anyways, I gotta stop now as I need to run. If someone wants a more detailed description of the OD, I'll gladly type it down.
Especially as I couldn't find anything similar by google at the moment. I'm sure it'd be valuable to other PV users.

 

[rockstar 69]

Shooting up 200mg of this stuff is fucking stupid even with tollerance.

I dont believe what you had was MDPV, when I had it you certainly would not sniff more than 20mgs or vape anywhere near that in a lightbulb. Also the fact that you mention nothing of paranoia, anxiety or going insane adds to this.

If you started off at 50mg of pure stuff IV'd I would have thought that would be OD territory. Either cut or not MDPV.

You would of been better with the 4-FA anyway, but IV'ing some of these things is plain stupid.

 

[Dedbeet]

Shooting up 200mg of this stuff is fucking stupid even with tollerance.

I agree... that is asking for trouble. At minimum, a period of losing touch with reality due to dopamine overload. And that ain't funny... ask anyone who's run around naked outside looking for the shadow people (shit like that happens with stim OD's all the time... hell I went outside in my underwear once after smoking way too much, was arrested, spent the night under observation & went home).

Don't f* with MDPV, folks... it'll f*ck u back eventually. Trust me. 30-year stim veteran speaking here.

P.S. to the guy who says he did 22 grams in a month... u are going to die if u keep it up. So don't. If self-control isn't possible (and it's damn hard with PV, I admit), very small at-once purchases (1g or less at a time) will help a lot. Damn, peeps, don't throw ur life down the tubes for it... it's possible to use *insanely*, so don't use it suicidally .

 

[Evad]

I generally stick 100mg or so on goil as it's the only way it runs properly, this is generally shared and smoked over the course of a fair time though, small amounts frazzle and waste too easily.

 

[StrictlyBusiness]

anyone know of a test kit to test purity and content of otc salts?

 

[Fourth_Drive]

I generally stick 100mg or so on goil as it's the only way it runs properly, this is generally shared and smoked over the course of a fair time though, small amounts frazzle and waste too easily.

Interesting, I've found larger amounts were harder to do as only some would melt while large bits would remain solid. Maybe I don't need to wait until it has all melted before I tilt the foil and try and get it running. Be keen to hear more about this approach, Evad - any advice? Am getting better, but still not sure I've cracked this whole smoking off foil thing. Practicing is fun, but winds up with me loosing days at a time!

 

[hairyharry]

OMG... that is a LOT of MDPV.

think there was PVed up ramble to Shambles and maybe a few posts in here but the majority of the time was actually enjoyable and not awful. The best run yet, was a lot of gear but I was measuring doses (first time I ever had) and only had one or two 'oops' hits out of the whole time.

I've just gone to buy some more and I can't find any... I haven't read the thread for a while, is it banned in the US now? DAMMIT

 

[smik2]

think there was PVed up ramble to Shambles

Where the fuck is he?!?

 

[rockstar 69]

think there was PVed up ramble to Shambles and maybe a few posts in here but the majority of the time was actually enjoyable and not awful. The best run yet, was a lot of gear but I was measuring doses (first time I ever had) and only had one or two 'oops' hits out of the whole time.

I've just gone to buy some more and I can't find any... I haven't read the thread for a while, is it banned in the US now? DAMMIT

Can you provide any further insight into your 22g in 30days binge please? That takes substance abuse to a whole new level..

 

[DeLee]

NOT healthy to do so huge doses as i read some of you do and think nothing of it.
I know of several people who have ended up in the hospital with leaking heart valves from excessive MDPV use.
And this is not something you can def recognize for yourself before it gets to a certain point when
you start getting physical problems from the heart.
What "excessive" is - is to everyone to figure out for them selves.

Be safe.

 

[Flourish]

Shooting up 200mg of this stuff is fucking stupid even with tollerance.

I dont believe what you had was MDPV, when I had it you certainly would not sniff more than 20mgs or vape anywhere near that in a lightbulb. Also the fact that you mention nothing of paranoia, anxiety or going insane adds to this.

If you started off at 50mg of pure stuff IV'd I would have thought that would be OD territory. Either cut or not MDPV.

You would of been better with the 4-FA anyway, but IV'ing some of these things is plain stupid.

For you to assume everything of this, is fucking stupid.

I did go through the most intense paranoia to date, massive chest tightness and hearing voices (borderline psychosis, in my book).

It was PV, most likely cut, but definitely PV. Tan/light brown "chunky" powder.

If you don't know how the subconscious actually works, then you should note there isn't an amount which you can generalize as "psychosis-OD".

I've went through much worse mentally in the past (not caused by drugs),
so it takes much more before my subconscious sends the launching signal to get worried.
Therefore I'm not easily scared by mild psychosis symptoms.

As what comes to IV - I would NEVER recommend anyone even going near a needle. But in the end it's up to the invidual.
For me it's always been a way of self-destruction, so please spare the comments as to what you see these things as.

 

[rockstar 69]

IV'ing 200mgs of pure MDPV would be an absolutely moronic idea and I don't know what good it does posting this on a harm reduction forum. IV'ing 200mg of what you believe to be cut MDPV is just as bad if not worse. I have sniffed, eaten and chased MDPV and there is no set dose where paranoia kicks in. Chasing seems to give a better high and prolong the psychosis further than sniffing, but after day 2 of a binge most people I know are starting to get paranoid, day 3 is full blown shadow people psychosis.

It's really just not wise for your own physical or more so mental health to do such large amounts. Unless this was done with a heavy tollerance your lucky to still be alive.

 

[Flourish]

I admit, I shouldn't have posted as I was still under the effect of PV. After all my actual intent WAS to help or ease out others,
and to warn never to do such amounts. It's nothing I'm proud of. It was supposed to be an example just how far you can go,
and how thoughtless you can be after a few days. I'd never plan that or do that when sober. And granted never will again.

 

[Flourish]

By the way, "the shadow people" - I assume this refers to people that clearly aren't real? Or just the paranoia in general?
I always had to close my curtains after using, as I thought people were spectating me from the building across the street.

 

[I NUK3D U]

Didn't use for 5 months then have smoked 22 g in 30 days.... Fucked up is not the word.

Standard

 

[rockstar 69]

^ You've moved in with Stuffmonger?

 

[mydrugbuddy]

A familiar story

SPOLIER ALERT TO ANYONE WHO KEEPS THEIR DRUGS IN A LOCKABLE TIN !!!

Up until this last week I've been keeping MDPV use to binges at weekends only, sometimes every other weekend as it was starting to take its toll mentally after only a few short months of use.

Now though, I've just had my first annual leave from work of a week/ten days since starting using the stuff, and it has properly caught me out. I started the week off with a 2 night/3 day binge. That was the one indulgence i was planning, after that i was going to do other more
productive/rewarding things with my time. Took an etizolam (my new wonder discovery - how i love this stuff) to sleep and woke next day feeling fine. Then I thought what the hell ive still got loads of time off left so i did 2 more all dayer binges, but not going through the night these times and sleeping instead using etizolam.

Since starting using mephedrone a couple of years ago and getting in a big stock pile pre-ban I had heeeded warnings about self control and fiending so I had bought one of those money box /lockable tins and kept my stash in there but left the keys at work during the week. This had always woked well for me. So anyway the next day was going to be drug free - so I locked all drugs away in the tin and posted the keys to myself and thought job done. I could now eat properly, have a shower and shave, hange clothes, get ontop of domestic chaos etc etc. The day went fine, i was enjoying being in my normal state of mind for the first time that week, had a slap up evening meal and a bottle of wine.

Then the trouble started, i suddenly couldnt get thoughts of drugs out of my head, i had to have something, i recognise these thoughts now as some kind of 'demon', i used to have the same completely irresistible thoughts on several unsuccesful attempts to quit cigarettes. So now my control had gone and i remembered someone else posting on a forum that a lockable money tin is nothing a hammer and chisel wont sort out. I had visions of this being extremely difficult to do, and being totally desperate, messy and very noisy, and taking hours to achieve. This is why this method had always worked for me until now. However i didnt care about any of that now and i got the hammer and chisel out, even though there was still apart of me saying dont do this. It was a horrible mental split, but the grip of the fiend was too strong.

To my total amazement it was a total piece of piss to lever up the lid of the box slightly with the chisel and then get the claw hammer in for leverage, took about 2 seconds to open it, the thing came apart like butter. OMFG i thought.

When the thoughts of drugs had first started i had first thought i might take a big trip to MXE land, but once the tin was open there was no doubt it had to be PV. And i was off again on another all nighter. I wasnt even getting high off the stuff any more, I had been taking the tan type all week and was just doing lines every hour by now, not waiting the 2-3 hours for the onset of the comedown as i had always done before until redosing, just getting more and more over stimulated. Next evening i took some etizolams to sleep. Just as i was getting near ready to go to bed i thought what if the tan and white really are 2 totall different although simillar drugs. So i then had to try the white type didnt I to test this.Yep, theory at least partially true, as the white did provide some kind of kick. Took quite a bit to overpower the etizolams though.

I slept with etizolams last night and return to work tomorrow having only had 1 square meal all week, and havent left the house for more than abot ten minutes either , except twice to buy cigarettes and crisps.

I know i wont be doing any more PV today. I have done it on the day before work only once, turning up to work after getting to sleep @ 6am
and needing to get up @ 7 @ frazzled and edgy to fuck. That was very bad, full blown schizophrenic voice hallucinations, walking through the office, "hearing" various people mutter things like "looser", "dick", "arsehole" etc and paranoid and edgy as fuck all day - so definately never again will i do that. I dont get the auditory hallucinations and paranoia if i avoid all contact with people.

Sorry for the long ramble, I know theres nothing new in this tale. I needed to write this as much for my own sake to clear my head and hopefully help me to see things more objectively, though hopefully it might be of inererest or benefit to someone esle aswell.