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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

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Firstly, Ektamine <3

Secondly, so glad to see the thread still going strong. Will save reading through it all for one of those "special" times though ;)

Thirdly, did y'all fiends have fun in the run up to the US ban? Me too. Was going through 10g/week just before the axe fell. Got somewhat surreal at times. Dontcha know.

So very, very, very much fun though. There really is no psychosis like a properly peeved one. Was so far gone at one point that a number of visits to the local constabulary were involved. On my insistance. You haven't lived till you've tried to explain why the local plod peeps need to investigate the infernal machinations of the shadow people cabal after several grammes of peev and several weeks sans sleep - straight faces were almost kept at times. Having the entire sky turn into an individualised game of Space Invaders whilst being (really for really) swarmed with bats was a standout moment too. I now know the exact meaning of "batshit crazy" 8o
 
I fucking love this thread. I actually wrote my own post of my MDPV experiences on here last night, but then over the next hour the uneazy feeling of being like a kid trying to talk over grown-ups kicked in and I deleted it. No I fucking bottled out on MDPV a couple of years back. That stuff unwravelled my mind so severly over a 2 week period, I think it's one of the few chems that I've disposed of and sworn never to return. Just simply, massive respect to any that can steady that ship and live to tell the tale.
 
Fuck, I wish I had known Im buying MDPV, I have just ordered some bath salts, expecting something similiar to mephedrone, so I hit 250mg in one line, man, horrible 4 days, believe me.
 
mind-explorer said:
Fuck, I wish I had known Im buying MDPV, I have just ordered some bath salts, expecting something similiar to mephedrone, so I hit 250mg in one line, man, horrible 4 days, believe me.
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Such a bad idea doing so much straight away, if that were another chem you could quite easily be dead or extremely psychotic.
 
mind-explorer said:
Fuck, I wish I had known Im buying MDPV, I have just ordered some bath salts, expecting something similiar to mephedrone, so I hit 250mg in one line, man, horrible 4 days, believe me.
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Made that mistake once, and can totally understand.. Awful times.
 
Shammy said:
I now know the exact meaning of "batshit crazy"
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Yep, if you think you're immune to such things because you've caned loads of speed etc and never had a problem, then peevee is the great leveller. Have experienced the insanity of peevee piggery and have also seen some friends completely lose the plot and have them tell me, in all seriousness, about the person who keeps hiding under the bed and is fucking their g/f while they're still at home - it gets so real that there's no reasoning with them that it's the drug causing delusions. One mate ended up so whack-a-doodle and acting on said delusions that he's currently residing in one of her majesty's 'hotels' and gets mail addressed to a number. I mean when mates turn up and ask you to scan over their body with an RF detector because someone keeps breaking into their house and planting tracking devices under their skin while they're passed out, it's pretty obvious that you're dealing with a drug that can completely warp the fabric of percieved reality. Only drug that comes close to such insanity is methamphetamine, but I still think peevee gets the award for king of the crazy makers (have tasted meth craziness; that was mainly paranoid ideation, not full blown visual & auditory delusions).

Such a shame as it makes sex such an intense experience that most couldn't imagine what it does until they actually try it, but for more people than I care to recall, once they've tasted it, they're doomed to untold crazyness...
 
Shambles said:
Was going through 10g/week just before the axe fell. Got somewhat surreal at times. Dontcha know.
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Fuck me!
I find it hard to believe you actually made it back to this realm in one piece! No doubt with patches of sanity dotted around your local vacinity! ;)

f&b said:
I still think peevee gets the award for king of the crazy makers
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Without doubt!
 
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fastandbulbous said:
Such a shame as it makes sex such an intense experience that most couldn't imagine what it does until they actually try it, but for more people than I care to recall, once they've tasted it, they're doomed to untold crazyness...
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I have a very vivid imagination though - if only more people would attempt to convey the intensity of peevee sex at greater length I might come as close to comprehending as is possible for a stimteatotaller. ;)

Seriously - I've been clean from speed and coke and other stims for longer than some posters here have been alive, and they were never my fave - but the peevee sex rumors have brought me damn close to hitting that "order" button on more than one occasion. For the past couple of years I've forced myself to read and re-read cautionary threads about peevee leading to dogfucking or getting hauled off by people in white coats in order to keep myself from succumbing and burning up my remaining productive sexual years on a pyre of perv powder. Were I the only one required to tweak I would have given in by now I think, but knowing full well the enormous downside to hard stims in general don't think I could dose my GF or any other woman I cared about.

That said, over time I've seen more and more accounts of wank abraded genitals and fewer and fewer of orgiastic kink or even just vanilla marathon fucks. Sadly I must conclude that the hype over peevee as a particularly pro-sexual stim is just that unless some BLers want to convince me otherwise with detailed, evocative, well paced first person accounts. But we have plenty of filthy methamphetamine history over here and have high standards as to stim perversion and it would take a lot to re-convince me that peevee is special that way.... ;)
 
It really does nothing for me in that direction...whereas mephedrone, speed, coke, methylone, all turn me and missis into animals....i can't even be arsed to knock one out on peevee.

I really thought it'd be good, as every other stim seems suited to fucking to the exclusion of everything else.
 
Acid4Blood said:
Fuck me!
I find it hard to believe you actually made it back to this realm in one piece! No doubt with patches of sanity dotted around your local vacinity! ;)
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I blame the price per gramme dropping to tuppence ha'ppenny, fear of me beloved powdered Zen disappearing, insane tolerance and being a massive drugpig :|

I have detailed records of parts of that time (surprise surprise - what's a boy to do with no 'puter to freak over?) and twas crazytime. Needed 250mg or so minimum (vaped) to even wake up of a morn... not that I slept so much as zoned out so far I couldn't locate the zone for a while :D
 
I've had periods in my past where for a week or two I'd been consumimg ~750mg IM/day and was a tad eccentric, but not batshit crazy (eccentric = mad, but a functioning human being), but for some reason I seem to be more resistant to stim psychosis (I think my bipolar illness has helped in that I've had to learn how to distinguish symptoms of mania from reality), but my downfall was from mixing a sizable peevee intake with fuck off dissociatives (PCP, 3-MeOPCP & 3-MeOPCE mpostly). Then, when the walls of sanity came down, they didn't just go a bit at a time, they wen't Jerico style after Joshua's trumpet. These days a fraction of that sort of level ,just peevee alone, would have me just prepared perfectly for a stay in a psyche ward.

Going mad through excessive drug use is like riding a bike - you never forget how to and it gets easier each subsequent time
 
The Bulbous One said:
Going mad through excessive drug use is like riding a bike - you never forget how to and it gets easier each subsequent time
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Quoted ftmftruth.

I never did go far down the IM route oddly enough. Too much of a tinfoil fiend mayhap. Still didn't stop me spending considerable hours/days/weeks trying to convince the local plod I wasn't just nuts and even handing in me own laptop for them to check over at one stage though. The gave it back a coupla months later after having removed various things, playing Halo a lot and ignoring the base issue I initially informed them of though. I'll save the Space Invaders moments for next run =D
 
Dedbeet said:
Believe it or not, *stimulants cannot and do not cause anxiety*. None. Zero.

Anxiety, paranoia and panic are psychic states, not physical states. Peevee affects body and brain chemistry only.
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Sounds a tad hippyish to me. Norepinephrine when released in high enough amounts stimulates the amygdala by binding to the adrenergic receptors as well as increasing blood flow in that area of the brain which is at least partly responsible for the classic stress response. Anxiety is a cocktail of chemicals triggering mechanisms in the brain and body. There is no body/mind duality. It's all one. There are quite a few emerging scientific experiments which can actually predict decision making in humans using simple tests purely by looking at activation of certain parts of the brain. They can tell you want you're going to choose before it manifests itself as a conscious thought. Thought is a result of brain chemistry, it's physical, although you can to an extent use techniques to control those reactions.
 
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I know you guys aren't dicksizing so I can comment on how epic that kind of consumption is, 250mgs in on hit, you gotta put in some serious background reading to get to that ;)

The most I ever got through was 300mgs in a day and that was at the end of a 4 day run, at the time they banned it in the UK I was kinda glad as I was getting way too far into it. Too far in to hold down a Mon-Fri full on head fuck job and live a normal life with wife and kids.
 
atm23 said:
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I know you guys aren't dicksizing so I can comment on how epic that kind of consumption is, 250mgs in on hit, you gotta put in some serious background reading to get to that ;)

The most I ever got through was 300mgs in a day and that was at the end of a 4 day run, at the time they banned it in the UK I was kinda glad as I was getting way too far into it. Too far in to hold down a Mon-Fri full on head fuck job and live a normal life with wife and kids.
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Towards the end of sessions tolerance really hit the roof though. Longest run I did was three days, had 150mg in one go at the end, lay down to pretend to be asleep while the rest of the household got ready for work/life, woke up 12 hours later!
 
atm23 said:
I know you guys aren't dicksizing so I can comment on how epic that kind of consumption is, 250mgs in on hit, you gotta put in some serious background reading to get to that ;)
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Ha! Not in one hit - my that would be a hit 8o

Dunno how much I was doing per toke but I'd usually put 25-50mg on the foil at a time, get through that doublequick, rinse, repeat, eventually shake the fuzziness from me sludge-filled head several sheets of tinny later. Pipe doses were around the same (25-50mg) and mainly for when I wasn't planning on being very aware of much of anything for a lil while ;)

Bear in mind I was smoking all day (and night) everyday for weeks on end at the time so had insane tolerance. Needed fuckloads to rekindle the very dim spark of consciousness I managed to hold on to or I was just a fuckin' zombie only less quick-witted and fleet of foot.

Tis an odd thing when tolerance gets up so high. On the one hand you need stupid amounts just to function "normally" but overdo it by even a smidge and it just sent me to sleep. Which was likely a good thing. If you get to the stage when you're choosing between 250mg or so to wake up or 300mg or so to get some kip it's probably time to step away from the baggie for a while :D

Which I did eventually and am taking a lil break from it at the moment. Suspect that may be for the best...

Only a temporary break though, naturally =D
 
*titters and concurs*

Was fun whilst it lasted though. Oh yes it was. Lack of 'puter at the time meant I ended up writing instead. Wrote several novels... well... one several times. And it wasn't really so much of a novel as a very extended ramble. Gives me a project to be getting on with next time I indulge though. Better than talking to the shadow person who lives in the corner of me room anyway :D
 
^ You don't just talk to the shadow people, you have full on dialogue and can see them acting out in crazy ways. The visual hallucinations with peevee are so damn vivid, never got ones like them from anything else like even methamphetamine (well actually MDA has visual effects a bit similar, but at least you can enjoy those. Peevee ones were always menacing/sinister - at least for me they were!)
 
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