MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

[6nate6blake6]

MDPV + Weed = dick spins in pants.

 

[the outsider]

MDPV + stunningly hot girl opposite you on train = serious risk of police involvement !

I tried smoking another small hit and the problem isn't so much the vile taste but the uncontrollable gagging and feeling like i'm gonna throw up the one meal i ate today. is there anyone else who just can't hack it? i must be doing something different cos it was manageable if nasty last week...

I'm gonna plug some and see what that's like.

 

[Harambulus]

With the weed thing my main query is not if it is NICE in combo but if it gets rid of the paranoia which may come with mdpv. I specifically bought some recently cos I was planning on getting some coke and knew from past exp it was the most awesomest thing to evapourate the paro from coke and also provide once of the best 'cozy' highs I've felt in my life. Would be nice if it does the same here too. So yea if it's nice is a bonus but mainly interested in if it gets rid of the paro.

I was thinking about it's potential to go out and pull since it purportedly gives wellbeing + confidence like coke but then I dashed that thought in the trash when I recalled it's notoriety for causing paranoia. I've tried nearly all drugs while chatting up girls, even acid and all have failed miserably on one count or another. All of them make me paranoid just cos I feel like I want to be on 100% and the drug gets in the way. I find I must be firing on 110%, even 1000%, to be able to pull successfully; needless to say my actual output is often found wanting .

 

[the outsider]

With the weed thing my main query is not if it is NICE in combo but if it gets rid of the paranoia which may come with mdpv.

Why do you think weed would help if you're paranoid? It's generally more effective at raising anxiety than lowering it, this effect will be magnified when combined with another substance with anxiety potential. cannabis would honestly be the last drug i'd look for when trying to alleviate a panic attack, alcohol/benzos would be the logical choice.

I was thinking about it's potential to go out and pull since it purportedly gives wellbeing + confidence like coke but then I dashed that thought in the trash when I recalled it's notoriety for causing paranoia.

you won't know until you try it. i feel almost no anxiety whatsoever from pv, even at large eyeballed doses combined with multiple spliffs. it gives me almost dangerous levels of self-confidence in fact.

What's paro?

 

[nuke]

My vision gets so blurred it's just plain silly. Have to turn the zoom right up to even read BL for the first day or so of a session. Seems to go away after the second day though. Dehydration is a bitch cos I find it really hard to force liquids down... but can usually eat fine. Funny that.

This happens to me on any CNS stimulant when I'm coming down, I hate it. Methylphenidate is actually worse for it for me.

 

[leiphos]

I searched BL but couldn't find a decent answer. When vaporizing MDPV (non freebase) in a crack pipe (long glass stem with bulb), what type of leftover residue should be expected? Specifically, what color? My experiences were inconclusive: I encountered beige, light yellow, dark brown, sludgey black - often several colors gradated. What does residue look like in other people's pipes? Any notable links concerning this? Any pictures?

Also - sometimes while I'm smoking, unburned MDPV ends up atop the dark residue; I'm curious if it's especially dangerous to burn this powder and thus inhale (potentially) the vapors from the residue underneath.

I'm also wondering if the presence of residues in the first place is a bad sign. Obviously I know smoking MDPV is harmful, but I want to minimize my risk, as well as understand it. The harm reduction philosophy behind BL is why I posted this question here.

EDIT: My MDPV is beige or somewhat tan. Not the white I don't think.

 

[Harambulus]

Why do you think weed would help if you're paranoid? It's generally more effective at raising anxiety than lowering it, this effect will be magnified when combined with another substance with anxiety potential. cannabis would honestly be the last drug i'd look for when trying to alleviate a panic attack, alcohol/benzos would be the logical choice.



you won't know until you try it. i feel almost no anxiety whatsoever from pv, even at large eyeballed doses combined with multiple spliffs. it gives me almost dangerous levels of self-confidence in fact.

What's paro?

Paro means paranoid.

Well with the weed usually I didn't smoke it cos I found it very anxiety producing- this seems to have gone down since I tried vaping it on its own recently after not touching it for a few years. I put this down to having squashed alot of my previous insecurities which were causing the anxiety at the time.

Anyway even when I had alot of anxiety I found that coke and weed seemed to have a synergistic effect to cancel each other's paranoia out- the weed mainly used to make me 'paro' because I felt sluggish and weak/incapacitated and the coke used to do the same cos it put me on edge/made me sketchy. So the two worked synergistically to cancel the negatives of each in the cases I mixed them.

 

[DS_]

Paro means paranoid.

Well with the weed usually I didn't smoke it cos I found it very anxiety producing- this seems to have gone down since I tried vaping it on its own recently after not touching it for a few years. I put this down to having squashed alot of my previous insecurities which were causing the anxiety at the time.

Anyway even when I had alot of anxiety I found that coke and weed seemed to have a synergistic effect to cancel each other's paranoia out- the weed mainly used to make me 'paro' because I felt sluggish and weak/incapacitated and the coke used to do the same cos it put me on edge/made me sketchy. So the two worked synergistically to cancel the negatives of each in the cases I mixed them.

Cocaine + Weed for me a confident paranoid mess. I'll talk too much over analyse what I've said while chatting more shit. Anxiety fucking loop.

 

[Harambulus]

yea it's weird cos I'm usually the 1st one to get paranoid and am really sensitive to such reactions of drugs (though less than I used to be it seems as I've matured a bit) and the KING of self analysis but for some reason that mix put me in a state of bliss where I would just sit and stare into space not wanting to do anything and just soak up the good feeling. Weed alone would cause too much self analysis but I think the confidence thing of coke caused me to stop second guessing myself thus reduce those indefinite loops.

I get paranoid alot less now but find negative effects of drugs more intolerable the older I get.

Hmm, isn't confident + paranoid kind of an oxymoron ?

 

[FlippingTop]

MDPV + stunningly hot girl opposite you on train = serious risk of police involvement !

But was she ACTUALLY stunningly hot?

A fence and a football with the correct silhouette would probably get a 8/10 from me during a binge. Females are a whole different story

 

[the outsider]

But was she ACTUALLY stunningly hot?

A fence and a football with the correct silhouette would probably get a 8/10 from me during a binge. Females are a whole different story

She genuinely was as well! In a Lily Cole way but blond and less weird-looking. I came perilously close to fulfilling my longterm ambition of asking a girl for sex within a minute of meeting her. I was planning out my lines and everything, saw from her tracksuit that she was at my uni so that was my way in; I was just weighing up the two optons of 'Hey, so you're at my uni, that's cool...wanna have sex?' or 'Hey, so you're at my unii, that's cool...heard of MDPV?' assuming the sex would follow shortly afterwards of course. She managed to save me some embarassment (or great sex) by listening to her iPod at loud volume - I wasn't quite as depraved as to rip head phones out of her ear before plying her with offers of lass B drugs and sex. Man, the things I was thinking about doing to her

That's my point about dangerous levels of self-confidence, I'm normally the world's biggest pussy around hot girls.

Going to college on PV is an absolute blast though, sitting at the back of a lecture theatre, finding even the boring lectures absolutely fascinating and generally having a good old chuckle at all the mugs who aren't on PV :D

 

[Rusted Chains]

I came perilously close to fulfilling my longterm ambition of asking a girl for sex within a minute of meeting her. I was planning out my lines and everything, saw from her tracksuit that she was at my uni so that was my way in; I was just weighing up the two optons of 'Hey, so you're at my uni, that's cool...wanna have sex?' or 'Hey, so you're at my unii, that's cool...heard of MDPV?' assuming the sex would follow shortly afterwards of course.

Should've seen if she'd be interested in a "short-term" relationship. Don't know if that line works anymore. I'm kinda old and have no idea about these younger broads today. Good luck.

 

[Harambulus]

She genuinely was as well! In a Lily Cole way but blond and less weird-looking. I came perilously close to fulfilling my longterm ambition of asking a girl for sex within a minute of meeting her. I was planning out my lines and everything, saw from her tracksuit that she was at my uni so that was my way in; I was just weighing up the two optons of 'Hey, so you're at my uni, that's cool...wanna have sex?' or 'Hey, so you're at my unii, that's cool...heard of MDPV?' assuming the sex would follow shortly afterwards of course. She managed to save me some embarassment (or great sex) by listening to her iPod at loud volume - I wasn't quite as depraved as to rip head phones out of her ear before plying her with offers of lass B drugs and sex. Man, the things I was thinking about doing to her

That's my point about dangerous levels of self-confidence, I'm normally the world's biggest pussy around hot girls.

Going to college on PV is an absolute blast though, sitting at the back of a lecture theatre, finding even the boring lectures absolutely fascinating and generally having a good old chuckle at all the mugs who aren't on PV :D

This is good to hear.

It means you do still keep some semblance of self-control while on it regardless of 'how close' you thought you were :D.

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Query- How much do you guys recommend I dose to start off?

I'm gonna jump straight into smoking I think cos I was gonna try it that way sooner or later. I thought I'd always be wondering what I'm missing out on if I was doing other ROAs so might as well start that way and work back if I don't like it.

So what is recommended first dose considering I only want a couple hours of high before going back to baseline for sleep the same night- just want a few hours of nice euphoria then back to homebase. Also should I redose at all if I wanna sleep same night if I were, say, starting in the morning around 11am-1pm? I was reading one of the earlier megathreads and shambles was saying dose no more than 3 times in the same day if you wanna sleep same night. This sound about right or excessive to others for same night sleepies? I've been reading it lasts a few hours anyway so one dose sounds like it might be fine for me.

 

[Gormur]

^best to start as low as possible, 1 - 3mg is good

Smoking is the only way to go for me now. First tried snorting then oral, which caused me so much confusion, anxiety, delusions and paranoia that i was literally paralyzed with fear (couldn't move for several hours)... Definitely no way i could be around other people, drive or otherwise function in public.. so i stayed home for days

Understandably i almost gave up on this chem after those first few days, then decided to try smoking and found it much more relaxing and gentle, with a very mild comedown.. vs the other routes, which involve a more pronounced high and crash.. pretty much the way all stims seem to work

Speaking of doses, i've found larger doses (rather than the smallest ones) to give me far less anxiety/edginess than smaller ones - say 10mg vs 5mg.. Whether or not this pertains to tolerance idk. one thing is for sure tho.. it takes a while to actually get used to the effects (know what to expect) and sort of ease into the experience, if that makes sense

-G

 

[Gormur]

I remember always having to have a dump after just coming up from strong coke. That was a 'one shot' deal tho.

Word

 

[Harambulus]

TBH reading through these threads I've found them pretty depressing to read after a bit.

Not trying to be judgmental (and someone else touched on this somewhere, as well as riklet) but it seems more a case that most on these threads want to have a defeatist attitude about it being really addictive so they can shirk responsibility for abstaining. The more impulsive element egging on their lack of control to one another. Don't wanna sound holier than thou and of course I haven't tried it myself yet but I know some have done it without going mental so it must at least be POSSIBLE.

I'm wondering how much of the talk of the addiction is the substance itself vs. how much it is due to these threads attracting the harder core users anyway thus providing skewed data. When I was researching crack I read similar data which said crack isn't any more addicting than cocaine statistically (something like 5.9% recidivism on both counts) it's just that the people who gravitate and continue to use crack are those who would have been the hardest core of users of coke in the 1st place and want to be as economical as they can with the product.

I only wrote it cos I started getting depressed reading them like it is a hopeless cause and your life is going to be inevitably turned upside down if you do it just once. Maybe I have been reading them too much (hours on end) without a break and that has caused me to have a more myopic view :D.

Only writing it not to slam people but just cos it was getting me down as I'm gonna be trying it and it felt like I was walking into my doom or some shit :D.

I guess I am finding it hard cos I committed (yet I could always back out even once I get it) to trying it now it doesn't sound so great, some of it, yet I am still wanting to try it so having a mental struggle with myself in my mind to justify trying it (but I know I'd be second guessing myself if I didn't try it just once).

 

[Public//Enemy]

well when it comes to MDPV I think the statement "you will never get as high as the first time you done it" has never rung more true.

Mainly cause it seems to be a different fucking drug lol. We have been living a delusional space.

 

[DS_]

i was literally paralyzed with fear (couldn't move for several hours)...

It's ridiculous; I've had that too. It's almost an appealing aspect of Pv for me - The challenge of the PV binge is somewhat appealing.

Trying to hold on to the little bit of sanity you've got left while continuing to smoke yet more mental demolition powder.

 

[Harambulus]

This thing is sounding more and more like a nightmare tbh.

I was just thinking about it and the way ppl portray it made me think of human slavery ...i.e not getting a high yet redosing and redosing and not knowing why.

Surely I can take a small dose to try and find out for myself and not lose my soul ?

 

[DS_]

This thing is sounding more and more like a nightmare tbh.

I was just thinking about it and the way ppl portray it made me think of human slavery ...i.e not getting a high yet redosing and redosing and not knowing why.

Surely I can take a small dose to try and find out for myself and not lose my soul ?

There's probably plenty of people that can/have used it responsibly. There's not much to be said about "I did some PV, I acted responsibly and it didn't cause me any trouble".

Most people who use this forum seem to be on the abusive side of drug use.

tl;dr: responsible people are dull.