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MDPV Megathread 5: Waiting for Jesus to show up

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yeah but there are ways to enforce rules upon yourself so it doesnt happen.

for me, i dont start taking my drugs until much later on in my social occasions now, before it would be the be all and end all and the focus of my social occasion.

its completley different.

i organise what im taking, i take what money i need, my friends are SLOWLY coming round to the fact that i dont really take it anymore, although some do still offer out of politness.

if i was hell bent of taking coke now, like i took on new years day, i take it at the end of the party time, there is a cut off point, where no more partying and funds are available to me anymore as i leave my cards and stuff at home.

i have no choice but to go home and call it a day :)

im sure stimulants are definitley smart, in fact i no so. through experience you can learn to be as smart as them for sure, but only if youve experienced messiness first and decide you dont like it
 
dee_dee said:
yeah but there are ways to enforce rules upon yourself so it doesnt happen.
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Once the party is underway and one is using the stuff steadily? I say not, based on my own use of coke, MDPV and others.

Before it gets to that point? Sure... like as you noted, take the drugs later in the social occasion.

It can be seriously helpful to realize that once a party has started and one is using a drug like coke or MDPV steadily, brain chemistry has taken over and the psyche/self has left the building. No more "shit, why did I do that, I feel so bad". Because it wasn't a "choice" based on anything rational at all, nor will it ever be with these drugs. "Bad" choices are entirely normal with this stuff, and are not bad -- because they weren't made in service to the state one is in after they come down and think back on it.

In other words, a choice one makes in a coked-out state is perfectly normal, and the right choice for the state one was in. If you don't want to make choices appropriate for being on coke, don't use coke.
 
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Quote: In other words, a choice one makes in a coked-out state is perfectly normal, and the right choice for the state one was in. If you don't want to make choices appropriate for being on coke, don't use coke.

it is definitley perfectly normal to make those choices i agree, i have learnt myself.

its better when u call the shots yourself though, rather than allow it to rule you. it is for me personally anyway. i take it for pleasure now, and it never goes beyond immediate self gratifaction and for a practical and sensible duration, and its also a very rare treat. i cannot see how thats a bad thing at all. in fact for me it is most definitley a positive not a negative, the only way a drug like coke rules me now is my awareness of it and it makes me stay away from it as much as possible, it doesnt rule me in any other way whatsoever, look how it used to call the shots before.

if thats a plus point to taking drugs like that then i dont think i quite understand you.

if my past experiences have taught me to contradict science then so be it, its my gain all round.

thats why i like to take drugs, to gain the positives from the experience :)
 
dee_dee said:
Quote: In other words, a choice one makes in a coked-out state is perfectly normal, and the right choice for the state one was in. If you don't want to make choices appropriate for being on coke, don't use coke.

it is definitley perfectly normal to make those choices i agree, i have learnt myself.

its betterr when u call the shots yourself though, rather than allow it to rule you.
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What I'm saying is that once you're partying, it already rules you. Probably difficult to accept, but have come by the acceptance of it through long/hard experience.

Of course, decisions are still possible e.g. on coke -- it seems one is still calling the shots oneself.

And yet one is in a different state than the usual i.e. is high. And so the high-state is calling all the shots.

After coming down, what happened in that state literally doesn't apply to when one isn't in it. "Why did I do that?" Because I was on coke, and now I'm not, so it seems bizarre when I'm not high. But it wasn't bizarre, it was normal.
it is for me personally anyway. i take it for pleasure now, and it never goes beyond immediate self gratifaction and for a practical and sensible duration, and ita also a very rare treat. i cannot see how thats a bad thing at all.
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Makes sense here, as long as there's no self-deception going on. That's the killer with these drugs, IMO, not the drugs. It's possible to be perfectly honest with oneself about everything and still enjoy the drug. If it isn't, if it's seriously messing with relatives, etc. and one is pretending not, then the coke isn't the problem -- self-deception is.

Peace...
 
I was advised by my better half that there was no way I was gonna vape / chase peevee cause it was just wrong n' dirty n would be oh so bad for me...but i craved it big. 2nd time around I itched on a stim memory i wanted to so badly :|


Rambling longing or what...I'm gonna have to watch this one :\ Thank god for better halves, it hit my long gone decades ago coke-fiendishness bad :(
 
Chasing peevee is certainly not "dirty" in any way shape or form. Kinda insulting for anyone to be spouting such offensive ignorance when they should know better really. But I digress. I agree it is probably the most likely ROA to be "oh so bad" for most. Especially for those with certain memories...

Also, loving your peevee rant work, Dedbeet. Reminded me I still need to return that PM too. I really need some peev to get my arse in gear a lil :\
 
Shambles said:
Chasing peevee is certainly not "dirty" in any way shape or form.
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True, altho one can quickly acquire a heavy enough dopamine load to make things pretty wacky for awhile, i.e. sensory changes, mental scatter effect, etc. Had a friend over the other night try it for the first time and he freaked out a bit anxiety-wise from one small foil chase.
Also, loving your peevee rant work, Dedbeet. Reminded me I still need to return that PM too. I really need some peev to get my arse in gear a lil :\
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Thanks Shambles... it has got to end soon due to increasingly critical sleep deprivation (96 hours, with a couple very brief naps). The peevee use is by far the minor factor, IMO.
 
I literally can't believe I'm still awake, moving toward 5 days/nights (with at best 2-3 hours sleep)... and reasonably mentally alert, too.

Not bad at all, considering.

Ridiculous, absurd and stupid, but not bad ;).

I'd guess it's because peevee consumption has been relatively low -- I seem to be "spreading this party out".

Might be more accurate to say -- the peevee is spreading me out over a longer period this time.

Honestly is a good thing -- can even let you mess "guiltlessly" with subbies like peevee, going in with your eyes open.
 
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Dedbeet said:
I literally can't believe I'm still awake, moving toward 5 days/nights (with at best 2-3 hours sleep)... and reasonably mentally alert, too.

Not bad at all, considering.

Ridiculous, absurd and stupid, but not bad ;).

I'd guess it's because peevee consumption has been relatively low -- I seem to be "spreading this party out".

Might be more accurate to say -- the peevee is spreading me out over a longer period this time.

Honestly is a good thing -- can even let you mess "guiltlessly" with subbies like peevee, going in with your eyes open.
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Eh, I've gone 9 days on coke before. Lemme know when you can hear the choppers outside, yeah?

How long till you're out of dopamine? I'm thinking you may wanna consider purchasing some amino acid suppliments to help your body replace all that dopamine you're inhibiting the reuptake of. L tyrosine is one, and its usually at any vitamin store or major chain supermarket,
 
clara said:
Did 7 on Meph and PV, never again! BTW how much coke did it take to stay up 9 days?
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First three days I went through 17 grams, then the next three is was 21 grams and the last three was 20 grams. 58 grams total, but that was back when I made money the easy, illegal way. Such good/awful times...
 
SmokeaJoint said:
Eh, I've gone 9 days on coke before. Lemme know when you can hear the choppers outside, yeah?
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Reminds me of my worst "drug adventure" to date (hopefully forever) in summer of '07, when I decided to show desoxypipradrol what a man I was, put it in an open bowl by the PC and just stick it in my nose however I damn well pleased.... Bet you can guess how that one turned out :|.

The *really* crazy thing about it is that two days after it was over I went and did it again. The same thing, with the other half of the stash. And it happened again. Only worse. 8)

The whole 'event' lasted the better course of a month.
 
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DS_ said:
I agree.
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Where did this "dirty" business come from anyway? Sure, it leaves a brown/tan resin on what you use to smoke it with -- it ain't steam, it's smoke. Crack leaves about 10x more deposits behind, IMO, not to mention what it does to your hands.

Not to mention, vaped peevee smoke is possibly the smoothest/mildest smoke I've ever had in my lungs. You can't feel it, you don't cough, you don't get heavy chested, etc. Never had even the remotest physical symptom from peevee smoke.
 
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Where did this "dirty" business come from anyway? Sure, it leaves a brown/tan resin on what you use to smoke it with -- it ain't steam, it's smoke. Crack leaves about 10x more deposits behind, IMO, not to mention what it does to your hands.

Not to mention, vaped peevee smoke is possibly the smoothest/mildest smoke I've ever had in my lungs. You can't feel it, you don't cough, you don't get heavy chested, etc.
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The brown/tan resin it leaves behind is Pyrrolidine (apparently).
 
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