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MDPV Megathread 4 - Egosyntonics R Us

Sounds like it's time to hang the peevee up, friend.

I've experienced the paranoid delusions and feelings of loneliness as well. Peevee tore me down, but in retrospect it helped me restructure my worldview in a way that I will carry with me forever. With patience and mindful awareness it goes away--once you stop taking the peevee the only thing holding you back is you.

As dark as I believe peevee is, I can't deny that it made me a better man.
 
The key to not getting into trouble with MDPV is to not use for more than 12 hours, get sleep afterwards, do not smoke or IV it, eat and drink while using, and not binge more than once, maybe occasionally twice in a week. This takes a bit of self discipline but at this level it is a very benign drug. The problem for me is, having followed this routine on and off for more than a few years, I seem to have a permanent tolerance to the stuff. I now dose high (20-40 mg sublingual attack dose) and get much less of the stimulation, and more of the euphoric effects of the drug. This suits me just fine, but it does bother me that 15 mg used to be adequate for a night, and now its more like 50-75 mg. Taken alone, it seems to be very easy on the heartrate, blood pressure and unpleasant physical side effects associated with vasoconstriction. In combination with other stimulants, it can amplify their unpleasant and unhealthy side effects. I have taken to using MDPV alone now because of this; I used to combine it with all kinds of things but in the end I think it blunted the rather subtle high of this drug (to be differentiated from the stimulation). This was particularly the case with mephedrone, which like many I have come to loathe.
Advice for rnd. id. would beto simply take a break, or better yet never use MDPV or other stimulants again. When a drug hijacks your life, it is no longer a drug worth taking. If you cannot function like a normal human being, you need to get drugs out of your life and fix yourself befor you can even consider using safely. Stop the PV (and any other stims) and the paranoia and bad feelings will pass. Get some sleep, eat well, rehydrate, and once the MDPV is out of your system, start to exercise regularly. You'll feel better fast.
 
Texyemma: Thanks :) Couldn't reply to you (it says you can't receive PMs), but since there's nothing private here:

As I guessed, the immediate anxiety and paranoia largely yielded to a longish sleep... The prospect of facing boring, mediocre and mostly just as lonely everyday-life instead, on the other hand, is as frightening as ever :(

but again, thank you for your support :)

naginnudej: I so hope your story is generalizable :) Can't tell yet. I did notice some restructuring and some thinking-hard-about-usually-denied issues during the anxious phases, but I don't know whether it's good or bad, considering the nightmarish atmosphere of emptiness, the cynical perspectives and the near-absolute-zero levels of self-confidence it is bundled with :( Just saying that this could lead to just as (negatively) distorted conclusions.

General alcazar: Heh, *use* for 12 hours? I never even bothered to start the "For how long have I *not* I taken any?"-clock during these months, but you'd rarely have needed one with more than one digit for the hours ;) On the other hand, the remnants of my self-preservation instinct did keep the doses down.
 
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General alcazar said:
Taken alone, it seems to be very easy on the heartrate, blood pressure and unpleasant physical side effects associated with vasoconstriction. In combination with other stimulants, it can amplify their unpleasant and unhealthy side effects.
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Agreed. The stuff didn't really increase my heart rate, even at higher doses. Certainly one of the most benign stimulants around.
 
Never found tolerance with PV, i'd rarely do a dose of more than about 6mg anyway and if anything I do smaller amounts now than I used to, especially first time, when I must have gone through a good 10mg quite fast. That would wire me to fuck now...

Certainly agree that not binging and endlessly redosing makes PV a benign drug, i never have had a proper comedown, the worst thing is a bit of jaw tension and slight grimeyness if you don't sleep for a night (never pushed past 2 days), if anything I had less comedown then that normally though. Small bit of Valium helped i'm sure though :D
 
I've been up all night studying and sipping what is supposed to be MDPV dissolved in water. Took about 2mg around midnight, then about 5mg about 2am, then maybe 8 or 9mg forty minutes ago, can't say I felt much, just slight pleasurable tingles that might have been placebo. I am awake but not what I would call wired.

This is the first time I've actually tried it so not 100% sure what to expect, although I have read BL from cover to cover (not all last night!)

Maybe the stuff I have is cut, weak or just inactive shite. My bowel movements are in the stimulant style though... Should I wait for an hour or two before hitting what remains of my meph stash? Or is that just a bad idea after even this amount of possibly bogus PV?
 
I'd personally suggest steering clear of the Meph after doing peevee.

MDPV is a funny one - you don't feel wasted like you will on meph; but it will bite you on the arse if you overdo it. Take it easy and slowly with the peevee - not "feeling" much first time isn't unusual.
 
Thought I would pop back and see how everyone here is doing with MDPV as I have just about got my shit together again after stupidly high MDPV + valium powder abuse maxed at about 1/5-1/4 of each a night reasonably soon after trying it, and benzos for the 1st time ever with sleep every 4 days or so... very nearly killed me 3 times. Then a fun time tapering down while dealing with some RL shit.

Have been looking around a little and can't see any reports of abuse like that, Does anyone have any links to people who had Major problems, or did they most probably die? :|

How easy is it for the average person to get this stuff online now? I remember some sites selling it at something stupid like £35/g before the ban, and most of them cutting it horribly. I even spoke to a few online vendors just before the ban and quit a few were oblivious to the fact that it was going to be made illegal. I have asked about now and it is the asme price or cheaper than before?

At the height of my addicton my doctor tried to prescribe me one of the strongest MAIOs (I forget the name), and I was wondering how damaging/if it would have killed me had I taken his 'advice'?

Thanks <3
 
Fourth_Drive said:
I'd personally suggest steering clear of the Meph after doing peevee.
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Um.. definitely.

I was also wondering what subligual dosing is like compared to IM for example. I would snort say 10, then whack another similar dose under the tounge as it started hitting me. I was keeping hydrated though so HR was top of my list... Anyone tring this drug out for the 1st time please don't go anywhere near the doses I managed to get myself into...

:)
 
I managed to get myself into a bit of a pickle after having ordered 6 grams in one go, and managing to smoke the lot in 3 weeks. Tolerance builds up incredibly quickly, peripheral effects (mostly vasoconstriction and tachycardia/arythmia) were also pretty bad. I lost a lot of weight. I managed to get a few hours of sleep at least every other couple of days, which barely prevented me from going completely psycho. It could have ended up very badly hadn't I run out as I was totally incapable of controlling my intake.

It's now been 3 weeks since I ran out. The come down was pretty brutal. I slept virtually non-stop the first week, and it took a good 2 weeks for the anxiety to come down to manageable levels.

Apart from some loss of sensitivity in the left hand's fingertips (and an over-developed right shoulder/forearm ;))I have now made a full recovery. A recent electro-cardiogram showed no signs of heart problems.

The whole experience was an eye opener; it made me realise that I have a long standing substance abuse problem. While it was possible for me to get pissed/stoned virtually every day and remain somewhat functional, MDPV was a tipping point....
 
i found a empty bag of mdpv in my car today, it had no loose powder in it but the bag was white. i just scraped it out and got a chunky line out of it. i probally shoud of had it in two lines really but oh well. ive got a nice buzz from it at the moment.

im still guted i missed out on it properly while it was available, probally a good thing really but i do wish i coud of enjoyed a couple more grams of it.
 
^ At least you got something out of the whole experience, my best wishes are with you, I'm the same as you, i know I can overdo it.

Not had MDPV that much since I had it for 3 days and after experienced the worse come down from ANY drug in my life. It was brutal, I never feeI've ever got is just tired and a bit unmotivated but MDPV was something else.

It's not worth and I think people are realising this.
 
Treacle said:
Agreed. The stuff didn't really increase my heart rate, even at higher doses. Certainly one of the most benign stimulants around.
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jep.
even high doses don't seem to affect the heartrate too much. far less then mephedrone or...haha... naphyrone.


I think the mental or psychological effect of pv is connected very strong to your state of mind in general.

I've seen people going through half a g in 3 day binges over a month without any paranoia and people goind insane after one night and three lines.
 
KissSanityGoodbye said:
even high doses don't seem to affect the heartrate too much.
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What do you consider a high dose? I have to totally disagree with this, MDPV is about 4 times thepotensy of 'normal' amphetamines. Maybe if you are taking oral doses you won't notice it, but nasal or sublingual will send it going. Maybe your stuff is a little cut with an active/inactive one?
 
the high dose I'm talking about was 2 cm line, as thin as a match. should have ended baneful. instead my friend went completly mental for 24 hours and thought people were trying to break in through the windows to kill him. but physocally he was ok.
I wasn't there when he did that amount so I'm not entirely sure about the dose but I checked his pulse and bloodpressure afterwards every now and then to make sure he doesn't need an ambulance. pulse was around 100 most of the time, bloodpressure was ok. experienced it far worse with mephedrone... not to talk about naphyrone.

I've done the same batch of pv and it was potent with 0,01 nasal, that's why I don't believe it was cut.

on the other hand I don't want anybody to do mdpv-speed-lines because nothing happened to my friend.


I have no idea of chemistry, I might be completly wrong but I have the theory that the mdpv that causes chestpains and increases the heartrate in a dangerous way is cut with something that's supposed to make it feel more speedy.

because people tend to be bored by the effects of (what I consider to be) "real" mdpv... in fact, I believe they put what they now try to sell as nrg1 in small amounts into mdpv batches.
 
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Someone on here did 250mg of the stuff over a few hours, and didn't experience any issues. He said it was like MDMA.
 
relatively benign.... [NB] RELATIVEY.....enough said! ,,,,,had some serious mixed up sessions on this shit altho on the whole it has pretty devine
 
To my pleasant surprise, I just found another 50mg or so :D. I should start hiding drugs on purpose - you appreciate them so much more this way.... (my memory isn't bad in general, but when you still have 3g, you don't really keep track of that odd 50mg).

Hmm, I suspect that this posting may sound somewhat incongruent with my previous two. Though to be fair, I think the drug isn't really the primary problem - loneliness is. MDPV just shines a particularly sinister light on it (<--- metaphor mixture breakdown :p) when you've been up for too long, and it puts a seal on the loneliness through the paranoia and the distractions.
 
Treacle said:
Someone on here did 250mg of the stuff over a few hours, and didn't experience any issues. He said it was like MDMA.
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Stupid doses of MDPV and something to sort the anxiety would give this a 9-9.5/10 if MDMA was a 10... Good and BAD <3 Full on visual/auditoriy halicunations, heard rate higher than anything I have had by about 50% too...
 
^ No chance mate! On the scale of drugs if say 2-CB/MDMA/Cocaine are 10 then MDPV would be 1 at best. The stuff has no similarities with MDMA as far as I can see and MDMA has never made me have any bad visual or auditoriy hallucinations. Not to mention I don't stay awake for best part of a week on MDMA.

MDPV is pure fiend material. It's just shite IMO/IME. :|
 
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