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MDPV Megathread 4 - Egosyntonics R Us

As a technical point, is this stuff we keep calling MDPV actually MDPV? I seem to recall that F&B established that it was not, saying that a lack of saffrole smell when he dissolved some white stuff in a certain solution implied that the MD component was missing. (I'm a math nerd, not a chemistry nerd, so I can only follow this stuff vaguely.)

If it's not MDPV -- and I may have completely misinterpreted or misremembered the results of that experiment, in which case I'll be happy to be corrected -- shouldn't that be constantly made clear to people in these threads? I bet people would be a lot less likely to purchase and abuse Mystery Chemical X. Seems like some notation like !MDPV or "MDPV" or MDPV* would be appropriate. I mean, I happen to like the white stuff, particularly when mixed with carisoprodol, but I never would have made my original purchase if I knew I was getting some mystery stim from a Chinese chemical lab.
 
FlippingTop said:
Just wondering if anyone experienced any horrible withdrawals from this stuff? I am aware that I abused it to a ridiculous extent (I think it was a month of daily use, worst usage was around 200mg a night for I don't really know how long due to the total lack of sleep for 2-5 days at a time, and consequently memory loss...)

When I finally stoped using it I felt anxious, depressed, total lack of appetite, no energy (stairs were a real effort) and was visabley shaking a constantly, it also felt as if I was even if it was not visable to others... Luckily I have access to a fair bit of diazepam, and 15mg every 4-6hours totally rid me of all of those. They lasted for about a week, some of these effects may well be due to the fact that I was eating less than 1 meal a day and my metabolism must have slowed down to a ridiculous extent... Managed to lose just over a stone and a half in that time. I also did not take any of my daily vitamins/supplements while on binges (not intentionally, I just stopped doing... well everything really while caning MDPV :( ) Infact I only really noticed all of them subsiding after going away for the weekend (and my MDPV stash), and actually eating properly again :\

When I 1st started using MDPV I also used the Diazepam to combat the anxiety that it was causing, but having tried MDPV since I have experienced no anxiety atall for some reason.

I <3 having an addictive personality

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sounds like a comedown after hammering a stimulant, withdrawal is not right right word here
 
Is shaking common for a stimulant comedown then? With my hand out stretched my fingers were shaking about 2-3cm a few times second :( I have abused MDMA before and stayed awake for a few days on speed/MDxx pills before and never experienced anything like it.
 
MDPV comedown gives bad anxiety/fiending. Shaky fingers are easily possible, but you should be able to hold still with some practice and relaxation.

C vitamin, B vitamins (b6 especially, needed for dopamine/adrenaline production) and magnesium supplements. Some lecithin/choline is good for mental function/anxiety on the comedown tool.
 
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If I don't tend to my mental and physical needs during the comedown I get really bad tightness in my back and I get pretty anxious/paranoid. My heart feels like it's beating quite fast but upon inspection I realize it's not much more than 80/85. With some breathing techniques, vitamins (mentioned above), and stretching I can usually calm things down.
 
have anyone tried combination of this and geranium? i read on other forum that it can be pretty good one(also a member here says that geranium and buphedrone are great together) could it work? could it be dangerous? thks.
 
@ cornishman - saw your post over on the I'm Fucked thread - take it that you didn't get on so well with the smoking?

I spent Saturday dosing PeeVee - took about 30 mg over the course of the day in sub-lingual doses of 2-4mg at a time. Just carried a syringe with me for the day and popped a couple of drops under my tongue as and when the urge took me. Fucking marvellous! Spent the day buzzing about, feeling very positive and enthusiastic. Stopped about midnight, took 125mg MDAI Freebase dissolved in grapefruit juice to relax and happy it up, and then at 4am 5mg diazepam and 25mg Promethazine for to sleep. Fantastic day - Sunday I was a little spacey, but no bad comedown or anything.

All in all, sublingual from a syringe was a great way to go - easy to keep track of how much I was getting, no faffing about with powder and straws, nice fast acting come-up, and very portable / discrete. PV ftw!
 
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Fourth_Drive said:
I spent Saturday dosing PeeVee - took about 30 mg over the course of the day in sub-lingual doses of 2-4mg at a time. Just carried a syringe with me for the day and popped a couple of drops under my tongue as and when the urge took me. Fucking marvellous! Spent the day buzzing about, feeling very positive and enthusiastic. Stopped about midnight, took 125mg MDAI Freebase dissolved in grapefruit juice to relax and happy it up, and then at 4am 5mg diazepam and 25mg Promethazine for to sleep. Fantastic day - Sunday I was a little spacey, but no bad comedown or anything.
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Post like this make me feel like a crackfiend...

I also agree that sublingual is the way to go, much better than snorting, and you don't have a drip or cough horrible crap up :\
 
Fourth_Drive said:
@ cornishman - saw your post over on the I'm Fucked thread - take it that you didn't get on so well with the smoking?

I spent Saturday dosing PeeVee - took about 30 mg over the course of the day in sub-lingual doses of 2-4mg at a time. Just carried a syringe with me for the day and popped a couple of drops under my tongue as and when the urge took me. Fucking marvellous! Spent the day buzzing about, feeling very positive and enthusiastic. Stopped about midnight, took 125mg MDAI Freebase dissolved in grapefruit juice to relax and happy it up, and then at 4am 5mg diazepam and 25mg Promethazine for to sleep. Fantastic day - Sunday I was a little spacey, but no bad comedown or anything.

All in all, sublingual from a syringe was a great way to go - easy to keep track of how much I was getting, no faffing about with powder and straws, nice fast acting come-up, and very portable / discrete. PV ftw!
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What did you dissolve the MDPV in?
 
I went against all experience and sense after what happened last time..it arrived half an hour ago. It was a disaster last time, but I'm looking to control myself a good bit this time, and not go mad. If I take any out, it will be a small amount with the rest at home.

Anyway - last time I exclusively insuffulated - can someone compare their experiences with this and an oral ROA?

Cheers people <3
 
i love a wee dab under the tongue, but as you well know, the dose response curve is soooo steep, get it right and its lovely, get it wrong and you'll be donning a balaclava and robbing your nearest chemist for benzos!!!
 
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infinity2k7 said:
What did you dissolve the MDPV in?
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Tap water = Easy Peevee! :)

I dissolve it in a ratio of 4mg per ml. (So, for example, when I weighed out 52mg I syringed in 13ml of water.) I keep it in an old 35mm film canister (eeek - it's showing my age that I have some of these lying around!!!) and can dip my syringe in as required.

A half-ml of the solution will give you a 2mg dose. So I just give myself a couple of drips under the tounge, wait a minute or two, swallow what's left and repeat a time or two and there's the half ml done. (Most 5ml oral syringes have half-ml graduations.)

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...but as you well know, the dose response curve is soooo steep, get it right and its lovely, get it wrong and you'll be donning a balaclava and robbing your nearest chemist for benzos!!!
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=D Indeed! I've found that dosing around 2mg at a time, sub-lingually, leaves me very in control - work my way up with tiny baby steps, and if and when it starts feeling like it might get a bit sketchy I can back off for a bit.

(I had a batch from another vendor previously that must have been cut, or just a bit rubbish. I had been plugging 10mg at a time quite happily - I tried that on the first go of my current batch and blam - it fair ruined my day. 8o)

@Infinity2k7 - There are reports on Wikipedia of MDPV degrading in tap water over time, but I've kept it in a dark place at room temp and had it work fine a week later, so I think this statement probably only applies to those who use the water method to measure mg doses from a much larger quantity. I've got a set of cheapo 0.001g scales so can measure out 30 - 50 mg fairly confidently and use the water method from there for sublingual or rectal administration. (Obviously not using the same syringe.:p)
 
Don Luigi said:
It was a disaster last time, but I'm looking to control myself a good bit this time, and not go mad. If I take any out, it will be a small amount with the rest at home.

Anyway - last time I exclusively insuffulated - can someone compare their experiences with this and an oral ROA?
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Hi DL - can't say I've ever insufflated this (or any RC, for that matter - call me chicken), but I find oral to be too slow an ROA for MDPV. Because dosing is a bit of a fine art with this one, and the time for an oral dose to take effect is comparatively long, it makes it quite easy to overdo it by accident.

See my notes above on sublingual admin. Make up as much as you want to take with you and take it with you in a small container. Then just drip it under the tongue - a syringe will sit happily in a jacket pocket. Easy to measure / control - and it comes up surprisingly quickly if you only use a couple of drops at a time and don't swallow too quickly. As I say, can't compare it to insufflation, but as quick if not a quicker come up than plugging.

(Sorry, very aware I'm wanking on here, but as per my post yesterday I had a lurvely lurvely PeeVee Saturday, so have gone all evangelical on y'all. Think of me as that bloke in the centre of town with the bible quotes and the pamphlets and the shouty voice: shuffle past with your eyes averted, dear reader, and go about your business.)
 
I'm the new guy! Me & PV

:Hi Everyone. I'm a long time browser, first time poster.

500mg of PV came on thursday (my 3rd lot).I blasted the lot, all chased on foil, and was on carpet patrol by saturday morning. it is incredibly moreish, possibly more than any substance i have come across at least when smoked. I know now not to order more than 500mg at a time because if its there i WILL smoke it, and i won't quit till the baggies wiped clean.

And i wanted to ask, I know people have noticed rancid stinky sweats, but has anyone noticed yellowish colourin of skin. almost like the PV'c comin out me pores? like this guy -------> %)
 
Nope. your liver function alright? Not jaundiced are ya, thats serious shit. I have no idea of PV's effect on the liver, but i wouldnt have thought it'd be enough to cause the onset of jaundice after a couple sessions.
 
naaah me livers fine. It clears within a couple of showers. Theres defintaly something on my skin. like when you get greasy skin, but its coloured
 
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