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MDPV Megathread 3 - It don't matter if you're tanned or white! or beige...

Number of lil corrections for you here, Cap'n. Of course ;)

Thats mad, 2g of PV in a weekend?? 8o We tanned a g between 5 of us in 2days. Was coming down like death for over a week! There was pills and meph involved too though..
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That makes a rather big difference as MDPV and meph is a bit of a major no-no - so no suprise you felt like shite really. MDPV is a mighty potent dopamine reuptake inhibitor and meph is a dopamine (with a bit of serotonin) releaser from what I can make out - that's a fuckload of dopamine with nowhere to go and dopamine tends to break down to norepinephrine - as in the stress hormone which binds to (or breaks down to?) has summat to do with adrenalin. Much potential as nasty ol' combo and bound to make you feel like crap for a long time really. (F&B may well come slap me for shoddy chemistry stuff but think I'm at least rightish there)

I think its funny how some people will slate meph to fuck and think its dodgy, yet they are happy to take batches of peeves when they have no fucking idea whats in it! Theres plenty of people who seem to happily take grams of it and not have a clue what it even is..
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Well, we "know" it's peevee just as well as you "know" it's meph... only Bulby Baby likes his peevee so I would suspect he'd mention if it wasn't - meph has been through at least as many weird batches but no peevee has damaged anyone physically cos it's widely accepted to be shockingly safe for a stim - one of the least toxic stims out there in fact.

No neurotoxins or cardiotoxins or indeed any particular toxins at all as far as I know. Again f&b will correct me but as a DRI it doesn't actually add anything - just recycles what's already there so it builds up what was already in there which makes you feel gooood. What does a brainful of dopamine feel like? Do believe that not dissimilar to what cocaine does (without the serotonin stuff anyway) so may have just a touch of euphoria :D

I'll stick with the drugs that give me actual euphoria eh ;) :D
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Plenty here obviously find peevee plenty euphoric... but mixing it with something that's gonna emphasise the worst elements of both probably doesn't give it a good impression :D

I also like to be able to think relatively clearly, concentrate and feel pretty damn good on a stim too. Meph which hardly makes for great conversation unless everyone's on it, concentration... erm... no, it does feel kinda great for a really short amount of time and then up for days caining it silly. That one's true for peevee except far longer lasting and I can stay up a week on a gram, function perfectly well and wake up with no comedown the next day. All for less than £40. Not gonna manage that on meph are you.

MDPV proven conclusively to be ftw =D

Or not. Horses and courses - as mentioned earlier. Now stop muddying my nice peevee thread with your ickydrugs :p;)
 
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bogman said:
could mdpv be like lsd in certain ways.
ymmv plus set n settings and most of important quality
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Only in that it causes an increase in dopaminergic activity; other than that they're chalk & cheese


norepinephrine - as in the stress hormone which binds to (or breaks down to?) has summat to do with adrenalin
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norepinephrine is what the yanks call noradrenaline (fuck knows why they can't use the same terminology as everyone else); I mean demerol instead of pethedine, epinephrine instead of adrenaline. Even when they call it the same, they use a different spelling eg amfetamine instead of amphetamine (patently wrong when the name comnes from AlphaMethylPHenEThylAMINE).

After all it is the English language they supposedly use! ;)
 
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It might be down to how damn cold it is but MDPV seems to fuck with my circulation more than mephedrone. Obviously I've overdone it but I've had an overnight session with meph as well. And another overnighter combining the two.

Ordered a heart-rate monitor as I hope having my hearts work-rate in front of me will help me exercise some control. Either that or it'll be "still under 200, he's got some more to give yet!"
 
^ That would make me paranoid doing that. I'd honestly rather not take drugs than sit there monitering things. Fair play though.. Option 2 sounds strangely familiar :D
 
At the very least it will help me decide if I'm having a heart attack or not. No idea what one feels like, so when I see the number spike to 300 I don't have to wonder any more. Rather pessimistic outlook, but hey, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
 
Don't worry about it - it's not vasoconstriction. MDPV makes me fuckin' freezing sometimes. Avoid heart monitors at all costs - guaranteed to fuck with your head on stims in a big way. MDPV will not be causing a problem - really is in your head. Promise <3

fastandbulbous said:
norepinephrine is what the yanks call noradrenaline...
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You mean the rest of my explanation was correct?!? 8o

Wowsers. But in a good way if so - getting there :D

Would the chills be down to (nor)adrenaline like if you go into shock or similar after a massive adrenaline rush and can't stop shaking? That really is blind guesswork based on nowt solid but would love to know why I get so damnably cold on it sometimes - gas ain't cheap :!
 
I'm not paranoid or anything, I can see how it might come across like that with me going on about heart attacks and the like. I think I'm compensating slightly because I don't want to be perceived as reckless. I actually quite interested to see how my heart reacts to different stimulants and if taking GBL will make a difference and shit ike that basically.

When I was 18 I bought a breathalyser just to fuck around with. Was humbled by the fact my mum managed to get a BAC double my best (0.32 vs 0.16). Not bad considering 0.40 is the LD50. But naturally the breathalyser will have an accuracy tolerance and the alcohol may have been a bit fresh on her breath so I would be surprised if she was actually at 0.32. Still way higher than I could get, but I'm not really a fan of alcohol.

Although this is my second night up, I don't feel too bad. Everything feels sort of still, tranquil almost. I think the gbl is kicking in a bit. I'll probably be sound asleep before 6am, up at noon and then to the shops. I've probably got a good 10 or 20 years before this maltreatment catches up with me ;) and by then I'm hoping it will just be a case of buying a new heart. Probably not the best idea to rely too heavily on it though; might not be able to afford one.
 
I fuckin' love smokin some of this just in a rollie. Good stuff.

Snortin' the stuff for two months non stop has had me at the brink of despair in terms of not being able to stop...
 
I've grown quite fond of snorting stuff. I get a nice feeling of relief before the molecules are even near my neurotransmitters. Like a lab rat salivating at the ring of a bell normally associated with food.
 
I find it's the second day on that peevee really shines - can be a bit edgy at first till all your dopamine and whatnot settles down but once you're on the level I find all the panicky heart racing and stuff pretty much goes and I can eat - even sleep if I really want to - just fine. It's the way up and the way down that can be a bit rocky but this batch isn't even bad for that.

Maybe try searching heart monitor, Scire. Virtually every time they're mentioned is when people start thinking the way you are - seems perfectly reasonable, till you inevitably start checking every tiny little thing and trawling through medical sites to see if there's some incredibly obscure condition that the particular (pretty normal) reading you have means something Deeper and it usually does cos it means mad anxiety, paranoia and panic till you come down.

Believe me - you can take ridiculously scary amounts of peevee and it really does feel like you're gonna die any second but you settle down soon enough on your own. Add in blood pressure or heart monitors and you well on the way to Catzone :|
 
I get nothing but prolonged "Sobriety" from snortin', I know I'm not strictly sober but I don't get any high whatsoever. The only thing I get from it is the most retarded OCD... the amounts of nights I've stayed up retagging iTunes, relacing shoes, refining doodles to masterpieces... Ugh...

Smokin' it though gives me a huge rush. Terror thinking I'm about to die as my heart goes into overdrive and a rush so strong I'm jonesin' before it's even kicked in properly.
 
Regarding the "you don't know what the powder is" concerns which were raised:

Well, how many substances are there which are active at ~5mg, feel similar enough to the PeeVee, and are cheap enough to make economic sense?

I can only think of the other pyrovalerones which F&B (IIRC) mentioned... are they potent enough (by weight) that someone would try to pass them as PeeVee? Are they *a lot* more toxic? That would indeed suck.
 
I will say this about MDPV; it's easy to underestimate. I have dosed since before midnight, I think it was about 22:00, so nearly 8 hours ago and I'm still pretty alert. I'm tempted to stay up through the day again, but I wont because it's just unnecessary more than anything. I don't have any appointments to keep so sleeping through the day isn't a problem.

I can't take any more MDPV, because I don't have any left. I've been planning to get a heart-rate monitor since the summer but I wanted it for jogging. This is just another justification of the purchase. I don't feel anxious or paranoid, I'm in my comfort zone; in my room, on the computer. I do feel slightly guilty that I've 'mistreated' my heart, but I'm not worried about it conking out on me just yet.
 
hairyharry said:
The only thing I get from it is the most retarded OCD... the amounts of nights I've stayed up retagging iTunes, relacing shoes, refining doodles to masterpieces... Ugh...
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Welcome to the last 2 days of my life. In regards to just staying sober, I know what you mean. For me it's more pronounced with mephedrone because of the more frequent redosing, but after a while you're not getting 'high' just staving off going 'down.'

I actually quite like that feeling though, the re-dose is nice, I enjoy snorting it, and it feels like a nice clean stimulation which sometimes I prefer to the messy first dose feeling. I find you have to be careful with the first dose of meph because if you do too much the messyness can be unpleasant, but after the first dose you can go mad, toot as much as you like and it's all good. I feel almost obligated to point out that obviously you can't snort as much as you like, but that's how it feels.
 
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