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MDPV Megathread 3 - It don't matter if you're tanned or white! or beige...

parttime crackhead said:
im talking about sniffing one wee tiny line of it so i should be cool, i'm not intending having a fucking marathon session on it or anything
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Like many other people, I had the same intention before I tried it.
Thing about peevee is that it suprises you in SO many ways.
& not just by it's powerful euporic effects but by making you realise your will-power isn't as good as you thought it was!
If you manage to stay true to your word & take no more than one 10mg line when you first try it, I will actually get the first flight over to Scotland just to shake your hand! :)

whore said:
Needless to say it took a mountain of benzos to bring me down.
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Same ere. Getting to sleep after a day on peevee for me requires about 4mg xanax in the evening & 30mg midazolam before bed.
With peevee tho, a benzo-induced sleep is better than no sleep at all!

& forcing yourself to eat when you're not hungry is always a very good idea to eleviate negative effects.
 
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I don't get any euphoria from it. And the only time I redosed I didn't have an awfully bad comedown or anything, but it just didn't seem worthwhile to redose.

But, who knows. I find opiates incredibly depressing and my first MDMA experiences was one of the worst drug experiences in my life. It's like my sensation of pleasure is wired backwards or something.
 
^ Not sure which form of it you have, but I found the tan variety is where the euphoria tends to hide. The white and beige varieties have far less intense euphoria for me. Still much fun but nothing like the euphoria of the yummy (and now extinct :() tan stuff. Many report little or no euphoria and fuck themselves over with massive and/or repeated doses trying to find that elusive euphoria, unfortunately. Seems to be very much in the YMMV realm.
 
I had whatever the first batch was, years and years ago, when it first was introduced. It's clumpy tan-beige stuff that smells of pyrollidine.
 
Sounds like the good stuff, Nuke. I haz dro0g envy now and you don't even like the stuff - damn your eyes :!:X:D

Also, I'd imagine it may affect somebody (like yourself, i believe) who has ADHD - kinda similar to how amphetamines have a different effect on those with the condition. Maybe that would account for some of the lack of euphoria? Although it really does seem to vary dramatically between individuals anyway.
 
It's very possible. And yeah, the effect was quite variable among the people who tried it, one girl I know ordered the same batch and tried 16mg nasally and said it was no more effective than a cup of coffee, which was bizarre. Cocaine is highly effective for her while it does nothing for me, though (nothing that'd make me want to do more of it, anyway). Her father is also a cocaine addict. I suspect that there is polymorphism in monoamine transporters and that not everyone reacts the same way.
 
Cornishman said:
Thanks for the info. :)

Am still in 2 minds about trying this stuff.
Sounds a bit too potent. (plus it aint the tan stuff - which I really wanted to try with a lady friend).

Is it possible to get a good buzz/fuck session from it, then have a good nights sleep?
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Definately is still possible, every batch of PV I've tried has made me horny.. :D
 
I find it odd that people think the comedown off MDPV is hellish. For me the drug itself is hellish when you take too much. Coming down is a relief. My method of administration of choice has been vaporizing, unfortunately for my mental health, and basically only the rush feels good. After twenty minutes the buzz is overshadowed by anxiety and paranoia that will last for a few hours unless I redose. Maybe some people think as this second phase of the effect as a comedown but I disagree. Withdrawal isn't very bad either. It certainly is crippling, you get so sleepy for a few days.. but my mood stays surprisingly fine.

Smoking really kind of ruined the drug for me. It's a nice social drug for a night out and a nice pick me up, but after starting to smoke it seems I can't resist having it around. The rush is great but you need over 10mg well smoked, enough that after the rush you're stuck in a paranoid/anxious state.

I write that after having had 2g of the stuff in my life. I first bought a gram an year ago, it was "brilliant white" and at the time I neither felt so much anxiety and paranoia nor did I get very strong rushes. Still I vowed not to buy this drug ever again and didn't until a few weeks ago. The difference may be just the batch, the doses or the citalopram I used to take, but I think my reaction to the drug has actually evolved for the worse. In the beginning of my second gram I didn't get much paranoia. Later I would think that I would keep my mental health better by switching to crack. I really do wonder if crack is as bad (never tried it).
 
^ I find it far more compulsive than crack and I've smoked a lotta crack. Could always put the pipe down when I had to but with peevee that ain't gonna happen. On the old tan stuff I could stop taking it and get some sleep but on the white and beige I'll fiend the lot everytime. Did two grams in a week once - I can assure you that the comedown is a pretty major issue with heavy binges :|

I agree with the second phase not being part of the comedown. Once I started smoking it more than snorting it that second (longer lasting) stage became much more pronounced. If you snort it or eat - anything but smoke or IV it - it's really not as bad. I get mad paranoia, anxiety and panic attacks once the initial rush of euphoria has faded and the more jittery second stage kicks in. Only thing that "cures" it is taking another hit from the pipe. I find benzos or GBL/GHB used whilst on a peevee binge help a lot with the jitters and skittishness once that first rush fades - can often go a few hours between doses if I get caught up in reading something, watching something, playing video games or whatever. If you sit and just smoke back to back pipes with few distractions you can use ridiculous amounts in a very short time and get way more nasty side-effects, in my experience. It's the extended - several days straight - binges that produce those infamous comedowns from hell. A day or two binging really doesn't give me any major comedown at all other than being a bit sluggish and dozy.
 
^ I find it far more compulsive than crack and I've smoked a lotta crack. Could always put the pipe down when I had to but with peevee that ain't gonna happen. On the old tan stuff I could stop taking it and get some sleep but on the white and beige I'll fiend the lot everytime. Did two grams in a week once - I can assure you that the comedown is a pretty major issue with heavy binges
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Totally agree, more fiendish than meph or coke. Even although your feeling it you can keep going till over 100mg a night with hardly any side effects. Comedown can be very anxious and pissed off for days!
 
Over 100mg a night with no side effects?!? I barely use that much in 24 hours mid-binge let alone with no tolerance - the side-effects would be way too much to do 100mg in a night (and that's smoking which means much heavier use than snorting) and a gram of diazepam probably wouldn't put me to sleep. You're a freak of nature, Cap'n!!! 8o8(:D
 
Thats what I mean a night/session say 6pm-12mid day. With the first stuff I had a g lasted 9weeks! the second stuff you coulld have done 20mg+ lines id did work but much weaker smell off it and seemed to need at least 10mg lines to work. My mate managed to blast 0.3ish in 2days! Wish I could try the tan perversions
 
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I miss the tan colored PV, I've had the pure white stuff the brown/beige stuff but the tan is really in a class of its own. There is NO euphoria at all with these new batches, its all just garbage,a real turn off! I just buy small amounts of the stuff now from diffrent vendors hoping that when I try it it will be the same as the old tan stuff. I really wish there could be some light shed on this. But I think the tan is gone forever.
 
^ I recall talk about problems with precursors being the reason for the apparent differences in more recent batches of peevee. I also recall talk of the tan actually having been contaminated which made it's effects unique. Not sure if either is true but whatever the case the white and beige stuff are definitely not the same thing - similar in many ways but the magic is definitely not there and I also doubt the tan will be back cos it's been gone a long time without a glimpse :\
 
With all the different batches I have tried recently, the tan was the only one which i had no self control with... If only, If only... well maybe its a good thing I can't get it anymore, my longest binge was with the tan 7 days, all these other batches just one dose and I have no desire to re-dose. I have one more batch that I haven't tested yet its pure white but has the exact same smell as the old tan, with that same "caking" effect as the tan. * crosses fingers *. but, I believe Shambles is right.
 
strangely enough i dont seem to get a comedown off pv,
not complaining tho,i usually suffer for days off stims,,
 
I wonder if the white stuff is actually a whole different chemical. If you cut the carbon chain length by one (the butyrophenone instead of the valerophenone) you probably get a compound that has greater NE affinity over DA affinity, closer to racemic methylphenidate or possibly even higher. The 3,4-methylenedioxy substituents usually enhance 5HTT and NET affinity in amphetamine-type compounds if I recall right. As it stands from SAR and the data on similar compounds from a paper them, I would say it's much more likely more MDPV to be a better NET substrate than DAT substrate, and therefore probably closer to Ritalin in terms of effect than anything else (contrary to what's been said about it being mostly only a DAT inhibitor).

edit: sorry, I'm going to remove the stuff about other compounds as I don't want RC companies to hop all over it.
 
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Sweet. I'll knock up a batch tomorrow then. Well would if I understood more than one word in ten there. I may not understand chemistry talk but it sounds pretty sexy whatever it is :D

I've long been convinced the white is a different but related chemical. There are definite similarities but the differences are pretty unmistakable. The clinching factor for me was with IV dosing. The white stuff needed a much higher dose, had no rush that I could tell (3mg of the tan had the strongest rush of anything I've ever injected even with tolerance) and sends me nodding about half an hour after shooting it. Only done it a handful of times as it's a worthless way of dosing it for me and just feels weird to have such a delayed action.

Never had Ritalin to compare with but I'm 99% certain the tan and white are not the same drug.
 
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