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I've notice a couple Chinese wholesalers and a couple UK vendors have started offering this chemical. There's almost zero information available. Only information I could find is this graph of comparable MDMA like substances that included MDME. The claim is MDME is comparable to MDHMA(FLEA), but this graph says it's much less potent than MDMA. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also, I hope this thread doesn't go against this guidelines of, "Trying to find the substance in the haystack," rule.


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I know nothing about this chemical, but I'd do alot more research before ordering it. I do not trust the stuff now being offered online, there's always a price to pay (physical after effects that are just not worth the high) Last time I tried one of these novelty chems I learned my lesson. I'm just gonna stick to searching the streets for molly, even if it takes me another 5 years to find it.....Stay safe
 
Gona move this to psychedelic drugs, see if folk there can shed some light. This is a new one for me, though.
 
I`ve seen one particular vendor selling this,or claiming to sell it,when i asked for more information to what it was,the nomenclature,i had no reply...So in my book if they can`t tell you what it is don`t buy it.They`re claiming it to be an MDMA substitute,anything that is that close to MDMA would probably be covered in the analogues law and thus be illegal,so i don`t trust these guys these days.
 
Phoenix_rising said:
I`ve seen one particular vendor selling this,or claiming to sell it,when i asked for more information to what it was,the nomenclature,i had no reply...So in my book if they can`t tell you what it is don`t buy it.They`re claiming it to be an MDMA substitute,anything that is that close to MDMA would probably be covered in the analogues law and thus be illegal,so i don`t trust these guys these days.
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That's the opinion I normally would form. Another board I use, a chinese vendor sent a couple samples of a chemical named MDME to board members, and promptly disappeared. The ones who tried it said the experience was so similar to MDMA, that they thought the vendor was actually selling MDMA under the radar. There's another Chinese wholesaler who has what looks like the same product, but he's not sending any samples, and only does wholesaling. So who knows. And I think we are speaking of the same vendor as he thinks he will be ripped off by other vendors by simply telling us the chemical name. Give me a break.
 
That's likely way too much bulk on the amine. FLEA is likely effective due to metabolic cleavage of the N-OH group.

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I've seen the threads and the vendor you're talking about.

Stay away until we know more. The vendor literally posted a photo of MXE crystal and claimed that it looks like ketamine crystal, therefore it is pure MXE since K and Mexy are "similar" molecules.

The website is pushing such a hard sell too... it sends up red flags all around.

For now I'm sure it's just an APB mix or a cath mix.

However, there is the one in a million shot we are seeing n-methyl-APBs finally coming to market under this guise.. ??!
 
^ Please no ID speculation about what this could be if it's not MDME. No vendor discussion either.

Looks like it'd be ineffective and worthless to me though.
 
Any news on this substance? I recently recieved a gram of brown MDME powder from an online UK vendor.
I rolled on new years so Im going to wait a few weeks before experimenting with this, but I would really like someone to try it out first :P haha

Ah well, for science!
 
^ As with all MDxx and similar chemicals I'd give it at the very least a month since your last roll before taking any, otherwise you're risking serious neurotoxicity, and of course, loss of magic - both for the MDME (if it's any good) and MDMA itself.

Stay safe :)
 
I had a sample of this and it seemed very different to 6-apb but still very decent only had 100mg to play with so i plugged it and it seemed very mdma like :-)
 
Just ordered some tablets that the vendor claims have 100mg.. I'll need to order a new Marquis kit and possibly send one in to edata. And post a trip report.
 
Would love to see one sent in for testing, this stuff seems potentially interesting, just wish the molecule was known.
 
The lower potency is likely due to a decreased ability to metabolize the O-methyl hydroxylamine relative to the other parts of the molecule. Ethers, even hydroxyl amine ethers, are not generally very reactive.

O-acetyl-MDOH and O-acetyl-FLEA would both likely retain potency and activity, and resemble MDA/MDMA in effect. Hydroxylamine esters are cleaved quickly.
 
So, assuming this is actually MDME, what would the chemical nomenclature look like... like this?

Methylenedioxymethyl-ethyl-amphetamine?
or
Methylenedioxymethyl-ethyl-phenylthylamine?
or . . .

I havent seen MDME written out nor have I seen a molercular mock-up. Nor would I know how to read it if I found one lol

If this post is illegal, mods please delete it. The rules round here are being more & more loosely translated, & in fdiffering ways by different mods, so I honestly don't know when I'm breaking them & when I'm not.
 
PhyllipThylamine said:
So, assuming this is actually MDME, what would the chemical nomenclature look like... like this?

Methylenedioxymethyl-ethyl-amphetamine?
or
Methylenedioxymethyl-ethyl-phenylthylamine?
or . . .

I havent seen MDME written out nor have I seen a molercular mock-up. Nor would I know how to read it if I found one lol

If this post is illegal, mods please delete it. The rules round here are being more & more loosely translated, & in fdiffering ways by different mods, so I honestly don't know when I'm breaking them & when I'm not.
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If the same nomenclature rules applied as for MDMA, then MethyleneDioxy(-N-)Meth(-alpha-)Ethylphenethylamine is correct, yes. :)

But that compound is simply MBDB which is the non cathinone version of butylone.

If this product actually has an N-ethyl it would be something like MDE / MDEA.

Anyway it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Maybe it's really N-methoxy-MDA, in which case the full name would be MethyleneDioxyMethoxyAmphetamine.
 
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