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MDMAgic's /roll Preperation / Break Between rolls

I find that Molly (pure MDMA) is extremely calming and flooring- I got pills with additional amphetamines the first 8 months or so of my MDMA use, so I assumed when I started getting floored off a new batch that they were cut with a sedative or an opiate- turned out I just finally got pure mdma!
 
I think sometimes it just emphasizes the current mood you are in. I have been a real B**ch on it before because my mood earlier that day wasn't so great and I wasn't monitoring what I say to people. It wasn't a bad roll just wasn't the most happiest ever.
 
Ever rolled but never got that happy feeling? Like u feel everything else but you're mood stays the same. As in if u has no feelings at all?
Thats what it was like on my last experience. My friend was in a happy mood but I wasn't.

it could have been MDA. MDA is less empathetic and slightly more speedy.
 
i have gotten molly and assorted pills, and have always found that my roll is not euphoric or enjoyable whatsoever until get some opiates- not even currently addicted
 
If i'm rolling alone I actually can border on despair. The main reason I can feel super happy and open is because other people are there feeling the same way and accepting me or more.

the drug alone just makes me feel a bit overwhelmed by stimulation and worried about my future health for taking something that makes it nearly impossible to be cognitive.

people are what bring euphoria to me
 
^very true! Real good mdma shouldn't make u want to dance and run around, you should feel calm and relaxed , floored your eyes should feel lazy . Most ppl don't know that, and ASSUME you should feel like dancing and running around with bug eyes and talking non sense .

The safest way to use mdma should also be in a calm environment, with soothing music and good ppl

Thank you so much dude you just answered my big question and settled a lot of frustration lol.... I started doing pure MDMA and was really upset when I didnt feel like dancing on til my feet fell off! Molly turns me into a ball of goo that can't move (feeling great though!) and the huge misconception that molly gives u endless energy made me think i just lost the magic :PPPPP
 
MDMA.HCl is simply hard to find for a variety of reasons. Let me explain rather than just make statements. I spent 5 to 10 years, with interruptions for prison/parole, ect.) manufacturing psychedelic drugs. The appeal of psychedelics is obvious. There is money in some of them and they aren't habit forming nor do many, possibly more than a few in history, actually overdose and die. When I was released last time I worked in construction. When the market fell apart I was left with one skill, chemistry. So I made some MDMA.HCl and was appalled when I asked for the normal price and everyone laughed. They all were under the impression that it was worth 1/3rd of what I was expecting. I had to spend some real time figuring out the reason. It seemed very unlikely that the supply had increased as safrole-rich oils were now heavily regulated and simply harvested less than any other time in the last hundred years. So it occurred to me that the middleman was used to paying much less for a much more inferior product. Simply stated, the middleman (distributor) was used to buying dirt for dirt cheap and charging the customer close to the same price as a more potent alternative (like pure MDMA.HCl was not available for the consumer to purchase instead). Anyway, I was always meeting with opposition. No one argued that the stuff they got from me was way, WAY better than what they were used to getting but they couldn't charge anyone $20 a capsule anymore because people had become accustomed to paying $5-$10 for a capsule/tablet. So what ended up happening was the people that sold the stuff would buy the $500/ounce "molly" and sell that to their customers but only come to see me when they wanted something for themselves. They wouldn't take the stuff they sold. It was absolute crap. But they wouldn't cut into their profit margin by buying pure MDMA.HCl as opposed to the highly adulterated and often not even MDMA containing stuff. So I had to quit because I couldn't sell it. Yep, pure drugs lost out to street trash. So now I paint houses again because making illegal drugs wasn't something I wanted to do anyway (I'm getting too old to sell drugs and go to prison).

In the course of my short lived career I bought several ounces from the competition and performed acid/base extractions on the "molly" to determine the amine content. This is not really specific but it can tell you roughly how much of the powder in front of you is an amine. Is it MDMA alone or MDMA/Methamphetamine or MDMA/PMMA or some other mixture? I can't tell you that buy I consistently got 30% tom 50% amines once basified, extracted and the hydrochloride salt reformed. Mind you, if I took 30 grams of MDMA.HCl that I knew was pure and basified it and extracted 3X, washed several times and formed the HCl salt again I'd get 28-29 grams back every time. SO I concluded that the "molly" out there was generally cut back very far or cut and supplemented with drugs that are more potent weight for weight than MDMA. Either way, the purity of almost every sample of "molly" I tested was 50% or less. So I am happily retired. I don't want to go back to prison, especially when there is no money in providing pure drugs to an un-thankful populous.
 
whats baffling me is the fact that caffeine alone can give me that much more energy when rolling. I always use pokeballs and I have heard they only contain a small amount of caffeine so i guess that is just surprising to me. I did thoroughly enjoy the roll but a lil more energy would have been nice :)
 
What I find strange, is that I took the same kind as u, a purple cu poke, but I had the complete opposite effect from you! I wish my time was spent more relaxed and sitting down, but it was more moving around with lots of energy, little to no sleep that night, and a horrible comedown. I'm waiting for a new full test kit to see what was in there. Although i did take a total of 4 throughout then night, starting with a double drop, maybe that had something to do with it, but everyone except me have had good reports on these. I find it rally strange I got the opposite effect
 
last time I ate molly I didnt feel happy at all. the exact opposite in fact. But this was due to the fact that I had eaten 1.5 g's of molly the past 3 ngihts before that. So i guess all my serotonin was gone. I felt a little tweaked out for about 20 minutes but no happiness at all.
 
I think the only reason you wouldn't feel happy is if there was little to no MDMA, or you're popping way too much =S. Just my two cents.
 
advice on roll preparation???

i had been rolling for about half a year when all of a sudden i just lost the magic. the last 2 times (out of really, only 5 or 6) its as if i had a mellow roll but no amount of pills (took over 5 in one night :( ) could bring me over that threshold to peaking. my problem was increasing dosage too fast.

so now im waiting all the way until TAO (last attempt was EDC) to roll. 6 months, an entire semester. fresh start, right?

does anyone have any advice on what steps i can take between now and then to ensure i peak and have a good time again? it will be my anniversary of raving and more than anything i would just love to be able to roll again. also, any tips on what i can do just prior to the event or while at the event to maximize this would be great! e.g. what to eat, pre-loading, "oh definitely bring some vicks!" etc.

thanks friends! <3
 
Did you use the search engine or even read the first page on the thread?

These things are covered in detail - dosage, magic, suppliments etc.

Ill move this over
 
sorry i didnt find much related specifically to peaking, which is what i was going for with this thread. guess im not too good at this online forum business!
 
My experience:

I've rolled roughly 60 times before taking piracetam. I never have used piracetam in the past as a supplement at all, decided to order it from all the hype I've heard.

Also, I rolled once a month, sometimes break the once a month rule, but never more than 2 times in a month.

So me and my buddy who was visiting from out of town wanted to do something, we were thinking some mushies and a hike, though E is our choice drug, it always goes back to E. So having little money, we knew weren't in for a ballz to the wall night and decided on one poke each. (I usually double drop for desired effects.) Then to my amazement there was a package at my door. PIRACETAM! (only two days after ordering!) I told my friend about all the stories I've read, and even showed him some about piracetam. He was sold, I mean "like you first roll again??!?!". I was sold.

We immediately attack dosed. 2.4G in 3 capsules, all at once. (4 hours prior to roll.)

Let me say that after 1 hour some very noticeable, yet desirable effects took place. Best way to some it up was it felt like happy. Enhanced mood, mild euphoria... lets just say I was diggin' it. I then decided I would enjoy taking this on the daily.

About 1 hour prior to the roll, my bud and I crack open some cold blue moons, sit back with the J, and talk about old times, work and stuff. (this is the friend that introduced me to stacy, and my favorite person to roll with, so I was already eager for the roll in the back of my mind.)

30 minutes before the drop, we notice that the alcohol + bud + piracetam puts us in a superb buzz, to me, it felt like a mild roll only excluding the sensitivity to touch. I would've actually been content with that feeling alone, but we did still have the poke each...

Then with our poke we dropped 2 more capsules of piracetam. Putting it at 4 grams of piracetam within 4 hours.

This is the part that interested me, either I was buzzing too hard or just not paying attention, but the come-up was unapparent. This is huge for me, seeing as how I have really bad anxiety problems when it comes to that. (rapid heart beat, feels like my chest is gonna cave in, then it all subsides after the roll turns on.) And let me say that usually if I'm drinking and smoking before a roll, the come-up is significantly WORSE to deal with for me, so I feel piracetam had something to do with the unapparent come-up.

So about 45 minutes after drop, just sitting and listening to tunes, smoking a cigarette, not really worried about rolling, just vibin' having a good time with my best mate.

and then we make eye contact and the world slows... (no homo) and all i can say is WOAH. my friend then mutters a fucked up "this is why i love itttt".

Remember your first roll? Coming up, but not really knowing it, not knowing how you're gonna feel, and not expecting the ride, and then all at once the sudden waves come CRASHING over your body and mind and all is perfect in the world?

Well that overwhelmingly amazing feeling was re-created for me and my friend that night, something which hasn't happened since like my 3rd roll.

An hour in, just us two in his back yard absolutely FLOORED. we had a blanket laid down on the dirt on the side of his house, and yeah at the point we were so floored we didn't even realize what his mom would think about the two of us laying down together in the backyard at 2:00am. and mind you were 26 years old, like I said he was just VISITING.... haha.


but yes, music has never sounded so good, it was better than my first time. maybe thanks to headphones as well? touch was incredible, but not as good as the first time. empathy levels through the ROOF.

we talked about our childhoods, and he opened up to me for the first time ever. in all of our experiences with E we will talk about life, but its more directed to the beauty of life in the world, not our personal lives. This alone made my roll incredibly insightful and bonded us beyond that of friendship.

Our roll lasted 3 hours STRONG, I don't recall that much, because I was FLOORED. Though it was amazing, and off of ONE poke? This is unreal for me. Piracetam has made my mood better by itself, but it also doesn't break the bank now when I buy E. From 3 a night to only needing one?

I didn't even begin to think about wanting a second one. Sensations stayed in my body four hours, no apparent come-down either! which is also weird for me. Not depressed about the feeling subsiding, just in an awesome mood. Quick to sleep, wake up after 8 hours of sleep. I feel DANDY. I feel like discovered the world the night before.

Ever since this experience I want to say that I have never EVER felt more positive about my life, my outlook on life now, is something I've always dreamed of having. I'm eating very healthy, quit smoking cigarettes, energy is now through the roof. I have a closer bond with friends and family, and before piracetam I felt sort of detached. And now I'm working 60 hour weeks and im still happy as ever, it seems like it would take the world to bring me down. I'm on my cloud in life and I intend to stay up here.

I also want to point out that after that roll I took piracetam for 2 days after (2.4g a day) then I forgot for 2 days to take it, being busy at work and what have you, and I noticed that even after stopping I am still in the best mood ever. I still haven't taken it again, though I plan to do so very soon, my best friends are coming all the way from Korea and were going to a massive. I want to here more success stories, because this literally was a miracle find for me.

If you thought MDMA changed you life, try piracetam + MDMA and then see how you look at life. After this combo, you won't let anything slip through your fingers in life. I've never been this motivated and worked as hard in my life. I'm now also celebrating a recent promotion I just got.

Piracetam is win in my book.
 
I've been reading about piracetam on BL for a while now and I'm curious if this supplement is worth taking for fairly new users of MDMA? It's not something I would want to take regularly just the day of and maybe a few days after rolling for the antioxidant benefits.

My girl takes a low dose SSRI and her rolls are less intense because of the SSRI. Would piracetam help increase the effect for her?
 
its funny i go on blue light and like i hear people who say its hard to get ketamine and mdma and i have no troble at all its like virgin media on demand drugs like theres never a time where i cant get hold of anything eather all the people on here are little kids with shitty chav dealers or there just very badly connected like ket is my fav drug and if i couldent get hold of that at the week end id cry

oh wow , you are cool man...thanks for letting us all know you can get drugs easy

i dont see where your post pertains to this thread
 
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