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magik23

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I have seen a lot of threads on one or the other but my question is which one would be better?

Pure molly basically makes me want to sit on the ground and not move and i love the uppidy bouncy roll. So since there haven't been very many clean pills around lately i was thinking about just taking molly with either Adderall or caffeine. I have taken ecstasy with adderall xr (10mg) before and it made me really paranoid. But that could have been something the pill was pressed with. I was wondering if it would be better to take the instant adderall (non xr) or caffeine. My favorite pill i have taken was 5:1 MDMA to caffeine ratio (taken these several times). Also, I have a prescription for adderall... i don't know if that changes anything. I don't take it that regularly though. thanks guys
 
I'm a big fan of caffeine

The problem with regular amphetamine is that it typically will not last the whole roll. It will also "shut down" a roll. Molly is supposed to be smooth after the come-up. Amphetamine is not smooth. It has a rising and falling action that are very apparent.

Once the amphetamine wears off, the roll will feel like it's over, despite the hallucinogenic effects still happening. There is also a frame of thought that says mixing amphetamines with MDMA will increase neurotoxic effects.

To be honest, weaker stimulants go great with MDMA. Let's not confuse true ecstasy with being tweaked out.
 
I like mdma + caffeine but it can add to the sweating and anxiety (only when your coming up)


To be honest, weaker stimulants go great with MDMA. Let's not confuse true ecstasy with being tweaked out.
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Some things synergise well, for example ketamine and mdma go together very well, especially at a rave (in the right doses of course)

Yet again the Combo/synergy experience will vary from person to person.
 
Adderall would make the next day much harder, and if you took Adderall xr then you'd probably stay up til the next day depending on which time you tried the combo.

I'd suggest taking half, or a full No Doz pill, depending on your caffeine tolerance, with your MDMA or soon after. One pill is 200mg of caffeine.
 
I have taken adderall xr and also had a 5 hour energy drink (on two separate occasions of course) and I preferred the 5 hour energy because I didn't bite my face off :)
 
ok thanks guys. I was pretty sure caffeine was the right choice but then i started reading people were doing it with adderall and since i had some i thought i might as well ask!
 
Caffeine wont really give you the uppity bouncy roll you want, unless you take a LOT then its gonna make you feel like shit

try something like DMAA, ephedrine, or like someone else said, a 5 hour energy. Honestly amphetamine is the best for that kind of roll, but not an XR. I would crush your 10mg and snort it maybe 5-10 minutes after the molly



Extended release pill basically redose you every 10 minutes or something, and with neurotoxic drugs like amphetamien and MDMA, the more you redose the worse it will be
 
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Extended release pill basically redose you every 10 minutes or something, and with neurotoxic drugs like amphetamien and MDMA, the more you redose the worse it will be
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This. I'm scripted Adderall XR 40mg and I actually prefer to not take it at least 2 days prior to rolling. Ime it's fucked with my roll and made the comedown a lot worse. However, I found that caffeine and MDMA went pretty well together, as it stopped me from feeling floored. I use caffeine pills but a 5 hour energy or even just a Red Bull or two works fine.
 
Good advice on this page.
Listen to Renz, as he has experience and knows what he is talking about.

When serotonin begins to fall just a few hours after a dose of MDMA, a nasty metabolite of dopamine makes its way into the serotonin transporter and receptor.
Once there it destroys axons and receptors and turns genetic material into peroxide!
This is the leading theory of MDMA neurotoxicity.

Anything that increases dopamine production is likely to increase this effect.
Methamphetamine is well known to increase the toxicity of MDMA.
So it would be easy to argue that adderall would do the same, although to a lesser extent.

Besides the damage, the fact that it kills the roll is pretty much the end of discussion.
Even on its own, adderall is a shitty stim.
I have heard that dexedrine is much more pleasant, but I still recommend against combining strong stims with MDMA.
Caffeine is probably the best bet.

We have a BL member that swears by his high-chocolate pre-load diet.
He eats bars of dark chocolate the day of and he claims that he rolls harder than he ever used to.
Another person said it was so intense that they wouldn't want to do it every time.
I suspect it is either the magnesium content or the high carbohydrate (sugar) level, which will definitely increase serotonin in the brain.

Or try Piracetam, which preferentially increases serotonin and dopamine in the PFC - which is the target of MDMA in the first place.
Just make sure to take it at least 4 hours prior to rolling.
It is supposed to make socializing much easier and euphoria stronger esp. in those with a tolerance.
And the comedown is greatly improved, evidence that Piracetam may help clear the toxic metabolites from the brain faster.
 
What kind of dose would you suggest for Piracetam? I remember hearing somewhere that it makes the roll last longer, if this is true I'd definitely be up for giving it a try as I go to a lot of 8+ hour raves that I'd like to roll for the entire duration of but don't want to redose so much that i feel like shit towards the end.
 
We have a BL member that swears by his high-chocolate pre-load diet.
He eats bars of dark chocolate the day of and he claims that he rolls harder than he ever used to.
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Who might that be then.. :P

(Im eating less than i did before FBC, i was eating around 1kg of dark chocolate in the 10 days leading up to it, i had a dark chocolate addiction but ive cut down to just 200grams a week now)
Gives a Psychedelic Euphoria..
magnesium content
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What magnesium in dark chocolate?
I thought that magnesium stopped you gurning too, you should see my LOCK JAW =() When im rolling face.. lol


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Found a source actually, for the magnesium part:
This carbohydrate-and-fat jolt can increase brain serotonin, the chemical that regulates mood and depression. In addition, chocolate is very high in magnesium, which has been shown to help with premenstrual symptoms. Experience teaches that it’s a perfect PMS food.
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http://www.truehealthyproducts.com/...e-has-a-deep-dark-secret-shhhhhhh-its-healthy
 
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Magnesium is involved in an unbelievable number of biological processes, including synthesis of neurotransmitters.
It is neuro-protectant and is reported to decrease the unpleasant 'motor' effects of MDMA.
And I used to know a METH user that drank chocolate milk like crazy - it was the only thing that kept him going.
Protein, b-vitamins, and magnesium.

Magnesium is also an NMDA anatagonist.
So perhaps it is capable of inducing some of the effects of ketamine or PCP, which are out-of-body sensations.
Loss of contact with the senses...

Honestly, I suspect the carb content much more than magnesium.
Such a huge LUMP of sugar and fat in your gut will cause increases in serotonin on its own!
With MDMA, who knows...

I can only imagine what your shit looks like after rolling!
 
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