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jake559

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Alright, so I use MDMA a lot. Way more than I should. I know you are supposed to take 3-5 week breaks and all but I honestly don't care. I love the euphoric happiness from MDMA. The way it makes me feel, like everything is okay in life. I feel amazing. Those who use it will understand.
Anyways, I am curious about how meth would feel? I like how MDMA makes me feel good about myself, it gives me some sort of euphoric confidence that I could never get being sober. I love the over all way it makes me feel. So how would meth be compared to MDMA?
I am planning on using it this weekend for the first time to see what its all about and if it would be worth replacing my almost weekly use of MDMA.
Basically what i am asking;
Will meth provide somewhat of the same Euphoric, happy, confident, amazing feeling that MDMA does? Everyone claims its better, but I cant picture anything getting better then MDMA? Anyways, if you have used both drugs, please try to explain the feeling of meth, and if it compares to MDMA

Please don't try to change my mind. I already know I have some problems, they will be addressed near the end of summer.
 
First off, you should wait a month bare minimum between rolls, 3 weeks is far too short. The reason they say to wait is because MDMA drains your brain's supply of serotonin, which takes 4 weeks to replenish. Secondly, you can't really compare MDMA with meth, they're totally different. MDMA acts more heavily on your serotonin system (giving you the sociability and feelings of love) while meth and other amphetamines act on the dopamine system (more of a speedy feeling).

Don't take this the wrong way, I'm trying to look out rather than make a bad impression, but to me you kinda sound like you have a hard time with moderation. With that type of personality amphs can be very dangerous, and WILL ruin your life. I would advise you to try out something a little more tame than meth first, such as adderall, if you really want to get into amphetamines.
 
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In my observation / experience, heavy MDMA use often precedes methamphetamine usage--especially if you take it like the OP is. In that case, it will soon stop working, but methamphetamine always will work and is even more addictive. In short, if you like methamphetamine, then you probably will like MDMA and vice versa.
 
hey you will probably like alcohol and pain pills too_ but I agree with CrypticArc if you have to try something , try adderall. It's pharmacy grade clean, it's amphetamine and anything you find named "meth" will not be real methamphetamine. That stuff is not around anymore, unless your flying a US fighter jet in the middle east and you ask your ships doctor for it. Don't want those guys getting sleepy , they drop bombs on the wrong people.
 
paulbush said:
...and anything you find named "meth" will not be real methamphetamine. That stuff is not around anymore...
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Um lol what? Yes it is... Meth is fucking everywhere. Shards, too. Or if you like to think racemic dope is "real" meth, then ask any of the ten thousand bees on the vespiary still cooking P2P style. Meth is around, and I don't know where you got the idea that it wasn't.
 
dude I'm telling u theres no need for you or anyone who hasn't tried meth, to take a dance with the white devil. I'm currently in a detox because of psychotic behaviour largely linked to my meth use
 
if you like MDMA, you will like meth. i find it more euphoric, but way less empathetic. meth is the ultimate me drug,. it can turn anyone into a psychotic fining rambling mess
 
It isn't that bad...well, as long as you can trust yourself to moderate your use. Iow, don't let it take over you. :)

And yes, like someone said tolerance isn't really a factor like it is with mdma, and the high is shorter (unless you keep on insufflating/smoking it). That's where moderation comes in though, because the craving will be pretty strong. Not as strong as that damn nicotine, but still.

If you don't have other stuff or a busy life to help occupy your time (or even other substances), I would suggest passing on it. It can go down hill really fast...you might find yourself cracked out every night with thoughts going a million miles an hour. Heh.
 
You don't need to compare MDMA with Meth. You need to combine MDMA with Meth. Usually best done with a pill from SE Asia.

Some of the best pills I've ever done. Yeah, yeah I'd have liked a lifetime of uncut pills too. But if you have to cut MDMA with something...
 
jake559 said:
I know you are supposed to take 3-5 week breaks and all but I honestly don't care. I love the euphoric happiness from MDMA.
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i know you don't care but, if you choose to not learn the easy way you will learn the hard way. if you carry on like this, in the not too distant future, you're going to lose the magic quality of mdma.

you say you love the euphoric happiness - ask yourself how you're going to feel when you can no longer experience it? bluelight records the time and date of posts. one day you'll do mdma and it won't have the euphorically happy effect you love. you'll do more and nothign will happen. you'll get desperate and do even more and nothing.

you'll be able to look back on this post when you said you didn't care and know this is when you blew it.

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alasdair
 
Sooner or later, it happens to everyone who loves MDMA too much to stop.
 
"and the high is shorter"

I strongly disagree. An MDMA high should last between 4 and 6 hours. A methamphetamine high should last about 12 to 24 hours if you don't redose, longer if you do. If your "methamphetamine" is not lasting even 4 to 6 hours, then I think it's safe to say you aren't doing real methamphetamine.
 
Dresden said:
"and the high is shorter"

I strongly disagree. An MDMA high should last between 4 and 6 hours. A methamphetamine high should last about 12 to 24 hours if you don't redose, longer if you do. If your "methamphetamine" is not lasting even 4 to 6 hours, then I think it's safe to say you aren't doing real methamphetamine.
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Are you talking about smoking it? Because it never went past 6 hours for me. Besides that, mdma has always affected me a lot longer than 6 hours, especially in the beginning. Granted, I have always smoked herb while on it and it would definitely prolong the peak and the roll itself.

Yeah, addy xr's lasted around 12 hours, give or take an hour. Lol, you can doubt it all you want, but that's just been my experience. I don't seem to have experiences that are that similar with others anyways. For example, miprocin lasted much longer than 6 hours on several occasions, but on 5 mapb I don't think I've reached the 6 hour time frame like most others.
 
Well I do not know from experience, but I knew a guy once in the same boat as you. Frequent MDMA use, and I even rolled a few times with him but he just wanted more, and so he started using meth... and for a month or so, he was loving life, so happy and energized, however, not before long meth was all he could talk about and then he became ugly very fast. just went completely downhill.
So yea
 
I was thinking the same thing for a while as well, but quickly realized how poor a decision that would end up being
 
alasdairm said:
i know you don't care but, if you choose to not learn the easy way you will learn the hard way. if you carry on like this, in the not too distant future, you're going to lose the magic quality of mdma.

you say you love the euphoric happiness - ask yourself how you're going to feel when you can no longer experience it? bluelight records the time and date of posts. one day you'll do mdma and it won't have the euphorically happy effect you love. you'll do more and nothign will happen. you'll get desperate and do even more and nothing.

you'll be able to look back on this post when you said you didn't care and know this is when you blew it.

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alasdair
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This fits me to a T, about 5-6 years ago. And probably even before that, I've never had the peak the same as the first time or the few subsequent times after. The first was the absolute best, and it's not even close.

OP, I can say with experience that with abuse, the positive effects disappear for sure. Not much except a stimmy high, an elevated temperature, not even much of any jaw clenching or nystagmus, but for certain the inability to eat or sleep was always there instead. The desire to go higher to try to gain the roll (and peak) back seems like it might work without properly waiting, but it has never worked...and I have dosed mdma backwards and forwards in all sorts of ways.

Time is the best cure to have legit rolls again. Even then, for me, that still didn't work because of the way I used it. Although it's not like I'm really sad about it or anything, it's something to keep in mind if you want to preserve the mdma magic/peak.
 
Kl519,

Well, drugs affect everybody differently--ppl all have different brains and everything--but I'm lucky to be rolling hard off MDMA for 4 hours even, but with ice methamphetamine (snorted, usually) I can tweak for up to 2 days off one dose.
 
Yeah, they certainly do. My experiences have generally been different from most, especially dosage-wise. With a few substances, I'd be tripping way too long, or trip hard on smallish doses. On most others, I'd take the recommended dose and won't feel much. It's strange for sure.

I've only smoked meth every weekend for about half a year, though it was on and off and completely dependent on who I was chillin with at the time. And I've taken pills which were supposed to have been mdma, but were meth bombs instead (I still enjoy them though). Neither of which lasted more than 6 hours. I expected more as well, since everyone else around me seems to be on it for a lot longer.

I know people who would keep on smoking 'ice' and of course, be stimmed up for half a day or more. But in fear of getting hooked on it, I never kept it up even on the same day. I'd just go back to some herb smoking. :)

It's all meh though, imo. I'm not up for the usage that I used to participate in when I was in my early 20's, so I won't be finding out how they affect me now.
 
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