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MDMA - visual effects that can't be described as hallucinations

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Hey, I've looked for other forums on this but there don't seem to be any on exactly the same thing.

Does anyone else get that thing on MDMA where, rather than hallucinating, you get changes in vision? Obviously seeing halos around lights etc is fairly common, but SWIM gets this thing where 3D depth perception goes all wrong- i.e. you look at a wall in a club, and think there is a picture/poster of a person on the wall, but it turns out its actually your friend stood just adjacent to you. Or, for example, holding your phone in front of your face and seeing tons of extra detail in the images on the phone that you can't see while sober. Or even the phone itself looking and feeling a lot bigger than it actually is...

I know this sounds like some kind of other psychedelic but this has only happened to SWIM on the occasions where it was definite (i.e. tested) MDMA.

Just wondered what people experienced on it in this sense
 
Firstly we don't SWIM here. Secondaly there aren't 'hallucinations' as such on mdma, it is more like misperception. You see something with your eyes and your brain skips steps in processing what you are seeing and so tells you it looks different to what it is or adds false information (for example people wearing glasses when they aren't). If you were to simply focus your eyes on that thing and perhaps move a little to one side or blink your, brain will process it correctly.

I have had the kind of thing you are talking about, i was watching tv, starting to come down. I couldn't focus on the TV and i thought there was a clock and a plant right in front of me, blocking my vision of the tv but really they were on the other side of the room above the tv. It was pretty cool, when i reached out my arm to try and touch them i would regain depth perception and see where they actually were.
 
When i was on 150mg mdma the other weekend,
There was these flashing wands at this rave (As the theme was magic)

and I just couldnt stop staring at them, its hard to describe but it was the altered vision as you said!
it was like candy to my brain or something .. . lol Very pleasant i loved it haha, i also enjoy the lasers and lights at the venues far more too
 
I'd say it's derealization/depersonilization, a dissociative effect. I get this while I'm on mushrooms- my perception is extremely warped, and it also happens occasionally with MDMA. Drugs sure do weird things to your brain :)
I get it when I'm sober, too. DPD ftw.
 
^ Yep, hallucinations aren't just seeing realistic looking things e.g. people or animals that aren't there - otherwise psychedelics and dissociatives wouldn't be regarded as hallucinogenic ;)
 
I'd still consider them hallucinations, even though they aren't always hallucinations in the "seeing something from nothing" sense. However, I've hallucinated a lot more on high doses of MDMA(with redoses) than I have on most mushroom trips.
 
yes i usually get this before bed after a long night of doing mdma, i remember i was looking at a picture on my phone it looked like a black hand and white hand over top of each other.. looked away and back and it was my friend and another person one white.. one black weird..

also that same night i looked at a pillow and saw my friends face .. shook my self for a moment looked back and the pillow was just all wrinkled.. and once my friends had got back to the hotel from the rave we went to we were all falling alseep and i was looking out the window and just blurted out look theres fireworks.. but as i said it i didn't believe it myself looked closely and sorta looked like it it, ended up just being towers lighting up from ground to up in the sky different colors but i was imagining the firework explosions...
 
I dont get this, the only strange thing that happens to my vision on MDMA is that I cant see anything close up, it just blurs, its weird.
 
one night years ago.. i had this thing where everything i was looking at was distorted.. i had a decent sized group of friends and we were sitting around in a circle chatting.. and i'm staring at this couple.. they looked like they were in their late 50's toothless and cracked out.. i'm sitting here thinkin.. who the fuck are these people and what r they doin here.. then POOF everything went clear and it was my 2 really good friends! LMAO not even close! hahahahaha good times!
 
I would definitely consider that a hallucination, and yeah I get it quite a lot towards the end of the night on MD.

peoples faces turn blue for me a lot, no ideaaaaa why!
 
^^Peoples faces very often appear "blacked out" to me at the end of the night, for lack of a better term. I'll be talking to some friends, one will leave the room, and I'm like "who was that...?". Not like I forgot who it was, but I couldn't see their face.
 
I prefer the term "Visual/ Auditory Distortions" rather than "Hallucinations". It is widely known that some of the MDMA you consume gets metabolized in your liver into MDA so it can be a reason for the distortions.
 
I call them "visuals", not hallucinations. In addition to all the fun stuff going on in your brain, much of it can be attributed to those dilated pupils and eye wiggles.
 
kroniic said:
I prefer the term "Visual/ Auditory Distortions" rather than "Hallucinations". It is widely known that some of the MDMA you consume gets metabolized in your liver into MDA so it can be a reason for the distortions.
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There's no way that "visual/ auditory distortions" applies to me experiences when I go past the 250mg mark with MDMA. What I'm going absolutely hallucinating.

Talking to a person who isn't there, watching a film being played on a blank wall etc etc.

Even the glasses thing - when I see that it doesn't just look like they're wearing glasses. I'm as convinced they are as much as I'm convinced the chair I'm sitting on is real.
 
Haha I was so faced once it seemed like pppl were wearing hats but nope just their hair and the next time I did it this girl was actually wearing a hat and it freaked me out haha
 
I can't say that I've ever had Hallucinations on MDMA alone. Other things sure but not MDMA alone. . .
That being said I have on occasion had my vision distorted. . . this was more due to the eye wiggles and generally being unfocused more so than a result of the substance itself.
 
Definitively happened to me. You have to do quite a lot on the first drop though. Like 0,2-0,25 g or something.

Once in a festival my mate and me dropped 0,25g of what we believed was pure (don't think it was anymore) mdma. At one time my mate puked and pissed on himself, so he had to change clothes. We both almost forgot to get new clothes on him (he walked around naked for a few minutes...just to explain how fucked up we were. Alcohol was also in the picture.

Anyway, the visuals were just silhouettes of people we were sure was sitting around us. We had literally walk over to them and touch to make them disappear. This was at night btw. And it was plausible that these people were actually there, so you can imagine our discussion before proceeding to go over and touch these strangers. They usually turned out to be tufts of grass or just nothing.

Strange thing was that we often shared the visual, but that could just be the mdma making us agree about anything and everything that happened.

Another year, I lost my friends after dropping a little less, but still plenty. It was near impossible to find them again. Peoples faces just warped, and I even imagined anyone I focused on to be wearing that same red hoodie my friend wore before I lost him.

Just a sidenote. I don't recommend anyone to drop that much in one go. I have never felt any sadness or "shitness" after a roll, but the cravings for more can be pretty god damn rough right after the peak. You have to have strong will-power to beat that craving. And if you tend to get sad after a roll, you should never drop that much in one go. I roll like 5-6 times a year (once with that amount in 1 go).

Happy xmas-rolling! :D
 
ugrowitwesmokeit said:
one night years ago.. i had this thing where everything i was looking at was distorted.. i had a decent sized group of friends and we were sitting around in a circle chatting.. and i'm staring at this couple.. they looked like they were in their late 50's toothless and cracked out.. i'm sitting here thinkin.. who the fuck are these people and what r they doin here.. then POOF everything went clear and it was my 2 really good friends! LMAO not even close! hahahahaha good times!
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ive had almost exactly that before lol. on really high doses it looks sometimes like peoples facial expressions are really exaggerated and they look older lol
 
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