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(MDMA) - Semi-experienced - Weird trip

raver24

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Rolled 3 times before this. I was at a rave and popped the first half of a yellow butterfly poke around 7:30pm. An hour later not feeling much so i take the other half. feeling good but not at the level i wanted to be at so i take another half around 9. This is where it starts to get weird. I start getting horrible anxiety/ thinking im going to die. My friend is there for support and tells me everything is gunna be alright but it doesnt help much and i cant sit in one place or shut my eyes for too long because i thought i would pass out. My senses were extremely heightened, music, being touched, cold air on my face, etc. I think it was contributing even more to my anxiety. Eventually I calmed down and went on the dancefloor and had a good time. then around 1 am the anxiety starts to build up again. As im walking towards the back of the dancefloor i turn around to make sure my friends are leaving to and strobe lights go off and i start convulsing. The only way i can describe it is that my brain was zapping in sync with the lights and i knew what was going on but i couldnt snap out of it. I remember screaming out "what the fuck" and grabbed my friends arm as i was falling over and then a minute later im really light headed and out of it and as im getting up i get escorted by paramedics and sent to the hospital. got a ct scan and there was no damage done to my brain.

The pills i took were clean and my friends that took them didnt have any issues with them. The place was extremely crowded and that might have contributed to the anxiety. I have never had a seizure before and I go to clubs with strobe lights and never have issues with them.

idk what happened but im scared to roll at a rave again =[
 
Drink enough water? Some people are ultra sensitive to light too, sometimes. I know of a few shows banned in the 90s because of flashing lights. Strobe lights are ultra sketchy when on drugs, especially mdma. I remember strobes at felguk/huortron/skrillex and there were spans of time where I was blinded while they were going on. I just sorta hoped that when I could see again everything was good.
 
Just once in years of use. Though I have gelt similar zaps etc from use in combo with speed. Not pleasant. I'm sure if there's a next time you'll be fine
 
the pills tested having a 30:1 caffeine/mdma ratio

is that ratio w/w? did you mean 3:1 caffeine/mdma? 30:1, if it's w/w would mean 1mg mdma for every 30mg caffeine, that would be a ton of caffeine with little mdma. even 3:1 that's a lot of caffeine, an example of that would be like 300mg caffeine and 100mg mdma, that's a ton of caffeine just to reach what a regular single dose of mdma would be.

i would blame the caffeine/mdma combo rather than the mdma by itself. don't forget that even though mdma is regularly combined with other stims such as caffeine, amphetamine, or methamphetamine, that the stimulant combo with mdma is far more dangerous than pure mdma on its own which is relatively safe as long as you stay hydrated/etc.
 
Lots of caffeine can cause paranoia/anxiety on its own (I know, i get overcaffeinated too often). That may be what happened, your blood pressure was probably through the roof too.
 
Lots of caffeine can cause paranoia/anxiety on its own (I know, i get overcaffeinated too often). That may be what happened, your blood pressure was probably through the roof too.
 
yeah good point! I started using a pre-workout supplement a couple days ago that has quite a bit of caffeine in it and i took a good amount and noticed I was having paranoia/anxiety!

I want to try mdma again in a rave setting but cant afford to have another seizure again... hospitals are crazy expensive.
 
yeah good point! I started using a pre-workout supplement a couple days ago that has quite a bit of caffeine in it and i took a good amount and noticed I was having paranoia/anxiety!

I want to try mdma again in a rave setting but cant afford to have another seizure again... hospitals are crazy expensive.

i'd say feel free to try it again but be prepared though. definitely make sure you're taking pure mdma and don't take other large amounts of caffeine anytime near your outing. another thing is to take a valium or klonopin with you. if the venue has strobes or you begin to feel uncomfortable then pop a valium or klonopin as a seizure preventative, just make sure you have the right dosage for yourself. good luck
 
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