MDMA Regime

[pkrkid73]

Hey guys, here's my hypothetical pre-loading/post-loading regime for molly.

Drink grapefruit juice before and throughout the roll.
T-1:00 – 1750mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100mg 5-HTP, 500mg Magnesium, 1500mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 100mg Vitamin B6
T+0:00 – MDMA
T+3:38 – 250mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 200 mg 5-HTP, 500mg Magnesium, 1500 mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 100mg Vitamin B6
T+11:00 – 250mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100mg 5-HTP, 1500 mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 28mg Vitamin B6
T+24:00 – 125mg 5-HTP
T+48:00 – 125mg 5-HTP
T+72:00 – 125mg 5-HTP

anyways, i'm posting this to see what u all think. got any criticism? suggestions? ideas?

 

[No Consequence]

I would suggest to not use any 5HTP the day of your roll. Apparently most people say that it really hinders a roll. And make sure you arent taking too much vitamin c. It can make your stomach too acidic. Maybe take some tums while rolling to balance that out.

 

[pkrkid73]

alright, and would u suggest taking 5-HTP on the days preceding the roll?

 

[Webzter]

These people go insane with all the stuff they take before a roll imo but thats just me.

I usually just eat a little less because of excitement and then take the roll and be happy .

 

[No Consequence]

the day after you roll take 5HTP, and you can take it for a few days. That's really all you gotta do with it. It should make your comedown better and make any depression go away. You should save all those antioxidants for after you roll. Helps clean out your system and helps lessen damage.

 

[pkrkid73]

oh so u dont suggest pre-loading at all, but instead just post-loading?
and about the 5-HTP, doesnt it inrease ur serotonin levels beforehand so that when the molly releases all ur serotonin, it will release more than the usual amount?
and shouldnt u pre-load atleast alittle to prepare ur body for the pill?
also how long after the roll would u say to post-load?

 

[No Consequence]

You can pre-load with 5HTP if you must, but stop the day of or day before you roll. If you take it the day of it hinders your roll usually. What 5HTP does is speed up the process which creates seratonin. If you are doing this the day of your roll it seems to stop the full affect of MDMA. Your body should already be prepared for your pills if you lead a normal, healthy life. And as long as you arent rolling all the time, you should be fine. You can still pre-load if you wish, but you don't really have to over do it. A nice small/medium healthy meal a few hours prior to your roll will usually have you prepared for a nice roll session.
I personally think post-loading is more important.

By the way, there are tons of information on all this on these forums. Now that you are a member, you can conveniently search around the threads

 

[pkrkid73]

ahaha yeahh, ik theres info around the threads, nice UTFSE euphemism there though xD
thanks for the info though, i only posted this so i could tailor this regime and try it out sometime to see if its effective.

 

[AMTDan]

I think 5-htp is way kind of overrated. Regardless you can take it if you want. Thing is though you really dont want to take the shit before you roll. Imo it questionable whether it works to restore serotonin after a roll the way people think it does( hey to each his own though) but it has a pretty nasty track record of ruining or deading peoples rolls.

At least lay off taking it till after your done rolling. The various vitamins may actually have a purpose since antioxidants have been shown to reduce neurotoxicity in rats significantly, and from the science its one the few things people can take while rolling that have some science behind their effectiveness.

Also if your using chelated magnesium it will definitely reduce jaw clenching, If I take MDA which both makes me clench harder and less aware of my clenching I take a couple 500mg pills every hour or 2. Feel free to take up to around a gram to 2 over a few hours. If its not chelated your just likely to end up with diarrhea while rolling or right afterward which is kind of unpleasent.

Vitamins that have antioxidant properties, chelated mag, ginger( for nasuea) and piracetam are the only things I found that actually seem have evidence to back up their claims.

P.S. I've tried grapejuice before and it really didn't make a difference except me and my friends were pretty fucking sick after rolling. I assume your doing it because I believe the claim is that it slows it down being metabolized by the liver or some such. Well if it does then I have a feeling that you should just let the damn thing metabolize properly. The only 2 options that I have from my experience with it is that either we were all just going to sick afterwards
(confirmed MDA bombs, and usually none of these people get sick after rolling) or that it did nothing at all, roll didn't feel any stronger. If it did make it harder to metabolize it well then it should have been metabolized because it just got toxic instead.

 

[happyland]

5htp isnt necessary imo, i have tried and i couldnt tell if it enhanced the roll but i think it makes the come down a little harder. besides that i like what your taking.
i could be wrong when i say this but i believe it isnt untill you start coming down till the next 48 hrs or so that you have oxidization occuring and causing free radicals to go around making trouble to your cells. because of this i like to continue taking my anti oxidants for 2-3 days after.

i found this to be very helpful http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=407429 hope it helps

 

[pkrkid73]

thanks for the info guys
to AMTDan, how much ginger would u suggest, and what piracetam dosage and when should i take that?

 

[No Consequence]

thanks for the info guys
to AMTDan, how much ginger would u suggest, and what piracetam dosage and when should i take that?

piracetam works excellent. You can take it a couple days prior, or just take it the day of. Like 2 hours before you take your MDMA, take somewhere like 3g-3.2gs of piracetam (what most people say).
You can also take it the next day and for a couple days as a post-load.

 

[nomy]

Wow, a regime. I can't believe some folks apply so much thought and prep. Just bosh it down, enjoy and just look after yourself the following week

 

[Keaton]

alright, and would u suggest taking 5-HTP on the days preceding the roll?

If you're gonna preload, I suggest priacetam, if you can find it. 5htp preloading tends to hinder the roll.

 

[Outwest]

I agree with NationOfThizzlam. Keep the 5HTP for the day after. Try Piracetam in your preload...

 

[firstmoment]

Hey guys, here's my hypothetical pre-loading/post-loading regime for molly.

Drink grapefruit juice before and throughout the roll.
T-1:00 – 1750mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100mg 5-HTP, 500mg Magnesium, 1500mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 100mg Vitamin B6
T+0:00 – MDMA
T+3:38 – 250mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 200 mg 5-HTP, 500mg Magnesium, 1500 mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 100mg Vitamin B6
T+11:00 – 250mg Alpha Lipoic Acid, 100mg 5-HTP, 1500 mg Vitamin C, 5000 IU Vitamin A, 400 IU Vitamin E, 28mg Vitamin B6
T+24:00 – 125mg 5-HTP
T+48:00 – 125mg 5-HTP
T+72:00 – 125mg 5-HTP

anyways, i'm posting this to see what u all think. got any criticism? suggestions? ideas?

no hydroxy tryptophan the day before or day of your roll. take it when you are completely done rolling. or when you are ready for the effects of the mdma to start subsiding. and i would take it easy on the vitmain C. if you take 5htp for 90 days before a roll i think you will feel a great difference, it may even feel as if it is your first time again imo.

 

[No Consequence]

if you take 5htp for 90 days before a roll i think you will feel a great difference, it may even feel as if it is your first time again imo.

do NOT listen to this ^
90 days is a long time using 5HTP. 5HTP is best to use after rolling to help boost the speed of your seratonin recovery. If used too frequently, it can be dangerous and can cause seratonin syndrome when your brain chemistry gets messed up. Also according to the thread mentioned above, "Do not take it for more than 5 days in a row without dopamine precursors; otherwise it will cause depletion of dopamine."

 

[mesial]

How much choline are you guys taking with the piracetam? I'm going to pre-load with 3.2 grams of piracetam 2 hours before my next roll.

 

[Montecarlonos]

How much choline are you guys taking with the piracetam? I'm going to pre-load with 3.2 grams of piracetam 2 hours before my next roll.

You really have to preload for 2 weeks for significant effect. Piracetam has to build up in your cerebral spinal fluid and your brain has to adjust.

 

[mesial]

You really have to preload for 2 weeks for significant effect. Piracetam has to build up in your cerebral spinal fluid and your brain has to adjust.

Many people said they had the best effects just loading the day before and day of?