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You should definitely try SSRIs, if you're okay with taking recreational drugs, which you are (or were), then you should be comfortable with taking pharmaceutical drugs. Just be sure to be knowledgable, read the manual, and know your doses, so you don't slip into a SSRI dependence. And SSRI withdrawal is known to cause symptoms similar to MDMA discontinuation, like brain zaps. Pretty much all I learned about brain zaps, when I was experiencing them after MDMA binging, came from SSRI literature. So use responsibly.

We know MDMA is primarily serotonergic, so yeah, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors might be good for you. It's not like you got much to lose at this stage.

Also, did you try supplements, like 5-HTP or L-tryptophan? You can get them over the counter, and they alter serotonin levels, too. If they work for you, taking SSRIs is less of a "leap of faith".
 
You should definitely try SSRIs, if you're okay with taking recreational drugs, which you are (or were), then you should be comfortable with taking pharmaceutical drugs. Just be sure to be knowledgable, read the manual, and know your doses, so you don't slip into a SSRI dependence. And SSRI withdrawal is known to cause symptoms similar to MDMA discontinuation, like brain zaps. Pretty much all I learned about brain zaps, when I was experiencing them after MDMA binging, came from SSRI literature. So use responsibly.

We know MDMA is primarily serotonergic, so yeah, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors might be good for you. It's not like you got much to lose at this stage.

Also, did you try supplements, like 5-HTP or L-tryptophan? You can get them over the counter, and they alter serotonin levels, too. If they work for you, taking SSRIs is less of a "leap of faith".
I don't have much choice man I honestly don't.
This brain fog isn't normal atall I even forget how to get to places Ive always known and my memory and vision is totally off struggle to read .
IVe tryed to 5htp didn't really help much.
Like you sayed I was stupid enough to do mdma in the first place.
Even tho I didn't plan on takeing half as much as I did infact I never even planned to take it. I'm not really big on drugs.

I'll give the Zoloft a go for 3 months I don't expect to be cured but I just want to be able to function and be able to think Atleast 70%
My head is agony like most of the day.
i need to be fine for my family
 
I don't have much choice man I honestly don't.
This brain fog isn't normal atall I even forget how to get to places Ive always known and my memory and vision is totally off struggle to read .
IVe tryed to 5htp didn't really help much.
Like you sayed I was stupid enough to do mdma in the first place.
Even tho I didn't plan on takeing half as much as I did infact I never even planned to take it. I'm not really big on drugs.

I'll give the Zoloft a go for 3 months I don't expect to be cured but I just want to be able to function and be able to think Atleast 70%
My head is agony like most of the day.
i need to be fine for my family

If you chose to go the SSRI route then let me know ho that goes. I'm not willing to go that route. I'm willing to give it more time. It's been such a shit 5 months. It's crazy to think I've been in this stae for almost half a year now! It does feel like I will never get back to 100% to be honest. If suicide didn't leave such a mess behind I would probably consider that a very valid option, but I don't think I'd ever do it. Well at least I think I wouldn't.... It's just so fucked up that I have been left in this state just after a pill and a half, while other friends who rolled that night still continue to roll/drink and do other drugs without any effects. It's just not fair... It's not fucking fair. My life literally feels like a distant memory. Should of never fucking rolled that night.
 
Does anyone else get really physical effects? Like along with anxiety, feelings nothingness, headaches, blurry vision, fatigue i've had pain all over my body swollen glands, twitching feelings, changing skin (increased pigmentation), really sore throat (and oral candida i think), pains in chest, food intolerance plus much more. Im probably at 70% now, anxiety and depersonalisation is gone thank god, mostly just some weird immune system symptoms left.
Did anyone lose ability to drink caffeine? I'd have like automatic panic attack if i drank coffee and smaller one when i drank tea.
Also anyone have dark bags under their eyes from day one?
Its been a long 6 months..
 
Does anyone else get really physical effects? Like along with anxiety, feelings nothingness, headaches, blurry vision, fatigue i've had pain all over my body swollen glands, twitching feelings, changing skin (increased pigmentation), really sore throat (and oral candida i think), pains in chest, food intolerance plus much more. Im probably at 70% now, anxiety and depersonalisation is gone thank god, mostly just some weird immune system symptoms left.
Did anyone lose ability to drink caffeine? I'd have like automatic panic attack if i drank coffee and smaller one when i drank tea.
Also anyone have dark bags under their eyes from day one?
Its been a long 6 months..
While my symptoms are mostly mental and emotional, i read that some people do get many strange physical symptoms as well. From my side i had strong heat sensations on my skin, particularly on the scalp; some mild head pressure as well.
Concerning caffeine, i have become very sensitive to it and had to greatly decrease the consumption since getting a strong panic attack after my usual dosage.
I also have dark circles under my eyes which became very apparent about 2 months into my ltc, slowly they are receding however.
Congratulations on getting rid of anxiety and depersonalisation as these symptoms cause a lot of emotional turmoil. I still suffer from them and i am also almsot 6 months into my ltc.
 
It's obvious I would like to go back to 100% and would give everything I have to do so, but I accepted it all and I am ready to live my life to the fullest regardless of this condition. By accepting I mean I don't tell myself ''I would do that if I wasn't in this LTC'' anymore and stuff like that. Let's do this
 
Congratulations on getting rid of anxiety and depersonalisation as these symptoms cause a lot of emotional turmoil. I still suffer from them and i am also almsot 6 months into my ltc.

Thank you! I think these symptoms are some of the worse. They make everything painful, and so much fear about whats going on that leads to constant researching and thinking the worst of everything. I thought i should probably say what helped me with this the most, although i'm yet to write a big post on whats worked the most for me and not. As i've already told Ryan I found acupuncture to work an absolute treat. Everyone is different, but if you find a good one (and they don't have to cost that much) they can really help balance things out. I had like intense anxiety/tension all the time, like something was chasing me. Could notice the difference after each session, like so much internal relaxing. Then the more i did it the better i felt. Still not all the way and it might just be that this works for me. But i'd be interested to see if it helped anyone else as much. Its not like immediate cure (nothing is) but it really helped me.
 
It's obvious I would like to go back to 100% and would give everything I have to do so, but I accepted it all and I am ready to live my life to the fullest regardless of this condition. By accepting I mean I don't tell myself ''I would do that if I wasn't in this LTC'' anymore and stuff like that. Let's do this
Fucking hell man it seems you've been on this forum a long time. How long have you been going through this?
 
Hey guys, just chiming in.

Last weekend I consumed around 160 mg of MDMA, plus small amounts of 4-FMP and cocaine.

I felt absolutely amazing the next day, but a few days into the week now, I'm still pretty tired, and a little blunt emotionally, and my jaw is killing me. Also I get minor brain zaps when falling asleep, treating that with L-tryptophan, works really well.

However it's been mostly very good, considering how much I took and how little I slept over the past few days. And I also quit smoking, so a lot of discomfort might be due to that.

Question now is, I met this girl and she wants to get it on on XTC this weekend, not sure I should do it, though. Seeing as I'm pretty wrecked already right now.

I think the stories in this thread will keep me from doing so. Better wait a little.
 
Hey guys, just chiming in.

Last weekend I consumed around 160 mg of MDMA, plus small amounts of 4-FMP and cocaine.

I felt absolutely amazing the next day, but a few days into the week now, I'm still pretty tired, and a little blunt emotionally, and my jaw is killing me. Also I get minor brain zaps when falling asleep, treating that with L-tryptophan, works really well.

However it's been mostly very good, considering how much I took and how little I slept over the past few days. And I also quit smoking, so a lot of discomfort might be due to that.

Question now is, I met this girl and she wants to get it on on XTC this weekend, not sure I should do it, though. Seeing as I'm pretty wrecked already right now.

I think the stories in this thread will keep me from doing so. Better wait a little.

Yeh good choice man. It wouldn't be worth it.
 
I'm having a bad couple of days. I've changed my diet (started a new diet actually) with almost no carbohydrates, and lots of seeds (sesame, sunflower seeds).
This was last Wednesday.

On Friday, I started to get some jumps while I was in bed trying to sleep. They got worst and worst over time, and last night I had a awful night, very rough, had to take Clonazepan (2 drops) to sleep, and it was not enough, so I got Melatonin later. They are not zaps, I believe, they are just "jumps" that wake me, because of my body movement.

I'm trying to find out if the change in the diet (stop consuming carbohydrates, the seeds) could cause this. I'm still seeing how I feel today. Any ideas is more than welcome.
 
I don't know much about what the seeds do, but i know that coming off most carbohydrates really benefited me, plus lots of protein and and veg and having a big healthy breakfast.
Im not sure about the jumps or whether the diet could be causing that, i have had flashes in my brain before, really big ones just as your drifting off to sleep that are scary, i still get them now even though i'm feeling ALOT better, but they are not quite as big.
Sorry to hear you are having a rough couple of days, i hope it gets better for you soon.
 
I'm having a bad couple of days. I've changed my diet (started a new diet actually) with almost no carbohydrates, and lots of seeds (sesame, sunflower seeds).
This was last Wednesday.

On Friday, I started to get some jumps while I was in bed trying to sleep. They got worst and worst over time, and last night I had a awful night, very rough, had to take Clonazepan (2 drops) to sleep, and it was not enough, so I got Melatonin later. They are not zaps, I believe, they are just "jumps" that wake me, because of my body movement.

I'm trying to find out if the change in the diet (stop consuming carbohydrates, the seeds) could cause this. I'm still seeing how I feel today. Any ideas is more than welcome.
I dont know why the hell people stop eating carbs. Its a MACRO nutrient meaning you need loads of it. It makes absoloutley no sense to neglect an important macronutrient
 
Fucking hell man it seems you've been on this forum a long time. How long have you been going through this?

ahah yeah man! I've been here since it started. It started in march 2014. So it's been a year and a half+. The hardest part was the new stuff, every week I would get something new, or notice it. A new scare, a new symptom, a new pain. Some go and some stay. At this point i've experienced everything possible with this, so i'm not scared when it occurs you understand? I put every side of my life on hold for this, but i'm turning the machine on again. I'm slowly starting to take it all back!
 
hey guys i wanna share my story and i would like ppl who recovered or still suffering to pm me and keep in touch.
im 3 months into this i think its called LTC..
i was smoking weed daily .. and sometimes doing coke (With alcohol) at weekends when going to party with my friends.. none of it hurt my routine.
i was waking up fresh and new after every night..
i tried one time untested mdma with my friends (first time) .. i did like 400mg that night.. when it kicked it i drank alot of beers and smoked weed in a bong (i was really high)
it was a fun night and i really enjoyed..
2 days after the symptoms started.. i woke up really depressed without reason and felt weird, like im not sober yet.. so i thought ok i read its common to have down the day after..
but the days passed and the depression kinda stayed.. i felt weird so i didnt touch alcohol or weed because i just wanted to feel sober again.
after few days i smoked some weed.. which made a panic attack.. i had big blackout it was scary and never happend to me
since then i didnt touch weed again and now in the 3rd and im feeling abit better but still some symptoms left like: dizziness, blurry vision and i feel kinda tired especially when i wake up in the morning.. i feel like dizzy when i wake up from bed.
i just wanna say.. i never had any problem of anxiety or depression in my life.. all was fine im good looking have girlfriend good social life good family etc..
now i feel fukd up, not like my old self. i think the excercise and eating healthy is helping me slowly but still i dont know if its the right treatment
btw my other friends who did the same night with me felt totally fine after few days and also rolled another time..

anyone who recovered can say how he did it? any tips? i dont take any supplements like 5htp or vitamins .. i just try to eat healthy and excercise
someone can myb explain better what causes this feelings? i dont it has to do somthing with the serotonin receptors..

feel free to reply or pm me.. also ppl who suffer i would like to chat and share feelings..
thanks everyone and hope we will be better soon and be able to post our recovery story :)
 
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I dont know why the hell people stop eating carbs. Its a MACRO nutrient meaning you need loads of it. It makes absoloutley no sense to neglect an important macronutrient

I guess it's the easiest way to loose weight? I gained several pounds, and the nutritionist changed the carbs for seeds and integral carbs (but not many)
The sunflower seeds are known to generate serotonin. Perhaps that triggered more regeneration than my brain is used to, and caused this? Honestly, it drives me crazy...
 
I guess it's the easiest way to loose weight? I gained several pounds, and the nutritionist changed the carbs for seeds and integral carbs (but not many)
The sunflower seeds are known to generate serotonin. Perhaps that triggered more regeneration than my brain is used to, and caused this? Honestly, it drives me crazy...
Eating more calories than you burn is how you gain weight. How long have you been going through the LTC for?
 
Hi everyone.

Not sure if you all remember me, but I used to post here regularly due to my own struggles. Over time I seemed to get better, with a few setbacks here and there. I made a post yesterday but thought I might as well post here too.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/773103-LTC-Symptoms-came-back-after-a-very-long-time

Basically my anxiety/depression is back and I feel like I'm at square one. I have been googling brain damage studies the last few days and now I believe that I am completely fucked! The googling has definitely messed with my head. Even though I came right for a long period of time. Is this damage?

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/696430-Is-this-considered-abuse

The above link outlines my usage over the years.
 
Hi everyone.

Not sure if you all remember me, but I used to post here regularly due to my own struggles. Over time I seemed to get better, with a few setbacks here and there. I made a post yesterday but thought I might as well post here too.

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/773103-LTC-Symptoms-came-back-after-a-very-long-time



Basically my anxiety/depression is back and I feel like I'm at square one. I have been googling brain damage studies the last few days and now I believe that I am completely fucked! The googling has definitely messed with my head. Even though I came right for a long period of time. Is this damage?

http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/696430-Is-this-considered-abuse

The above link outlines my usage over the years.

Just calm down man, have you been using any drugs lately? Drinking too much alcohol perhaps? I know from experience that can put me back a few steps as well. Try to go to bed not too late, exercise, eat healthy, go out, that kinda stuff. Makes you feel much better! Oh yeah, and try to put your focus on something else than thinking about how your brain is fucked. Have a laugh, or occupy yourself with something you like to do. So you don't think about it, works for me atleast.
 
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Im not quite sure if I post in the right section, if not Im sorry for that.

Anyways my story: Ive taken maybe a total of 3 blue ghosts which you can see here:
http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=34216

About 2 pink grenades
http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=34119

And about 2 of these yellow smileys
http://www.pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=19080

And about 1 (quite sure it was an untested extasy) extasy pill, which had no sign on it, I asked the guy and he said it was a Rockstar, im not sure.

I knew nothing about extasy before, and I hanged out with bad people this time, I was awake 2 days maybe 2 times when I rolled, and I drank quite some alcohol maybe 2 times when Ive rolled, all whitin a timeframe of maybe 2-3 months.

Ive never used any drugs before in my life, I never smoked before in my life either, Ive always been healthy working out and so on, I didnt drink often before either, I dont do it now either, but this period I went extremly hard and when I asked my friends if it was dangerous they just said, no you just realese the serotonin and it comes back, and I was dumb and believed it and I was kind of out of control this period, and now about 12 months after I still dont feel quite normal.

How I used to be:
I'm a good looking guy, I was very confident with a really good self esteem had no problem talking to people, and were the most social guy in the room, almost all the time.

My side effects today:
Anxiety, I feel brain frog, hard to find words (alot),Not the same motivation, I was obsessed with bodybuilding before, but now its like somedays I just chill home, but I still workout 4-5 x/week, I dont feel any euphoria after workouts which I used to do alot before, I dont feel relaxed in situations, before I feelt extremly relaxed in almost every situation(social situation) I was so chill, I feel like i lost my self steem, I dont feel confident anymore, I got hard looking people in the eyes, I feel awkward(strange) when talking to people, NOT all the time but quite alot, and sometimes with people I know, in the beginning I didnt think about extasy and so on and It was actually better but It happen i got anxiety attacks in social situations and it didnt feel "Nice" talking to people, it felt like a burden, before I always enjoyed talking to every1 but now it's like I know Im gonna get nervous and stuck when i talk.

Sometimes I can just get extremely nervous It's so damn strange I cant really control it, It has happen when Ive been with people I know, friends, even family etc, I get nervous when i got a story to tell, It's like Im stuck in my old self I always talked alot and fast,but I cant do it as well as I did before anymore and it bothers me ALOT, And i try to fix it all the time and think about it and stuff, I know this is also bad.

THINGS IVE DONE TO "CURE" Myself: Exercise daily, Eat healthy.

Supplements I i take:

Zinc,
Magnesium,
Omega 3,
Multi vitamin,

Sometimes I do feel like myself when I talk to some people, this is often when I dont look at them, when walking and so on, and some situatiosn I feel "Normal" but most of the time, I just feel so damn fixed, ive gotten nervous with my girlfriends parents Im shaking seeing them and so on.


Conslucion: I feel like myself still, but a bad version with lower self steem, and not as relaxed as I did before. I also hear sounds alot, like you see in the movies when there is sounds and you focus on it so hard and you cant help it, Im really self aware of everything I do all the time, It's like everything "Flowed" before, but now Im like a robot which analyzes every little move, If i say something strange Im like wtf, every social interaction I analyze afterwards and so on. Im going to try to meditate alot since many people have said it helped them.

P.S Im sorry If i write kinda messy I hope you guys understand what I mean, Ask me anything I'm happy to respond back to your questions, Id love to feel normal again without taking drugs to solve my problem if it's possible.

P.S 2 Im not depressed I feel happy sometimes but mostly like "Empty" like not sad but not the best either, before I felt happy/excited alot more, if somebody could help me with advice I would be grateful all my life, and I would consider you as a friend for life I would never forget what you did for me,

P.S 3. I had no panic attack etc on extasy, I felt really good and so on if it matters.

Man I recognise myself so much in your story. I used to be a handsome social guy aswell I can say, now I'm almost always nervous in social situations. Also have lower self esteem etc. I'm now 14 months in LTC and still not that fresh handsome guy. But I learned to live with it. My skin has become shit aswell. I used to have a really nice fresh skin now it looks so ugly. But oh well, I don't care anymore actually. :] Hopefully some day I will be that handsome social guy again though
 
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