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I believe I got Seratonin Syndrome from a supposedly natural supplement, which turned out to contain Sibrutramine, a seratonin enhancer.My symptoms are similar to yours. 15 days ago I stopped usage of the supplement after almost fainting. Since then my head feels lite like jet lag, sensitive to light, pupils occasionally dilated, increased pulse. In fact 9 days after stopping was in hospital with fast heart 135 bps. At this point my heart seems to have stabilized back to a normal rhythm. .pulse at rest 62 to 80..versus 90 to 100. However I keep getting new symptoms like left hand jittery, exaggerated reflexes, dilated pupils. How long will this keep up
Moved this from an unrelated thread into this one. Please don't bump ancient threads with unrelated questions, just create a new one next time or search an already existing thread that is appropriate, like this one

You don't have serotonin syndrome, that is a very serious condition that would have landed you in the hospital possibly fighting for your life. It also doesn't last for days, it's something that can happen when you for instance combine MDMA and an MAOI. What you are experiencing sounds a bit like what happens when you take too much MDMA, in which case it will start to pass soon
 
I came to this site a lot as I started using and the words and warnings never matter much , feel after awhile my LTC became the sum of my MDMA experience , I'm coming off a 14 week bender of abusing almost .5 a day and I never want to touch the stuff again ,sad as it might be to sum the " I doubt you'll get better " post was harsh but it definetly might have helped me before these 2 years of abuse
 
Has anyone else had like a sore throat a lot of the time through out their LTC? My throat has been sore for at least 5 or the 7 months, perhaps all the stress/anxiety has knocked my immune system out of whack or something..
Any one had eczema either? didnt develop directly after, but have eczema or some form of reoccurring rash now, even though i never have as a child, very strange...
They do say stress/anxiety really effects the skin
 
Has anyone else had like a sore throat a lot of the time through out their LTC? My throat has been sore for at least 5 or the 7 months, perhaps all the stress/anxiety has knocked my immune system out of whack or something..
Any one had eczema either? didnt develop directly after, but have eczema or some form of reoccurring rash now, even though i never have as a child, very strange...
They do say stress/anxiety really effects the skin

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Stress (and especially chronic, long term stress) can wreak havoc on the body (both mentally and physically) in the form of dozens of symptoms - some of which may seem bizarre.

More importantly, high levels of stress from a young age - when the human brain is still developing, and is most vulnerable to damage - has been shown to cause long term changes with respect to the functioning of the hypothalamus (which is a portion of the brain located just above the brainstem), which is responsible for (among other things) regulating the levels of the stress hormone cortisol (released by the adrenal glands) in the body.

In short, the brain of children who frequently experience high levels of stress while growing up begins to increase the level of cortisol that it considers to be normal, and as a consequence, such individuals are at a much higher risk of developing mental disorders such as Anxiety (GAD), Panic Disorder, Depression (MDD), Bi-polar Disorder, and so forth. Frequent bullying is one of the leading causes of this tragic outcome, and it is the very arrogant among us who think victims of chronic, long term bullying can simply "walk it off" or to "stop being such a pussy."

In light of this, it is especially difficult and frustrating to know that young victims of verbal, online and/or other non-violent forms of bullying in America are further burdened by the First Amendment which protects such bullies from appropriate punishment since it is considered their right to freely express themselves regardless of the potential to seriously traumatize fellow students, who then may end up resorting to the use of drugs in order to temporarily escape the constant mental pain and anguish.

But here's the worst part (IMO): These very same victimized students could find themselves being given a criminal record (and all the baggage/burdens that come with it) simply because they were caught with something as benign as parts of a freakin' plant in their pockets. Yet even more tragic is the fact that countless fellow Americans are then seemingly unable to stop and consider the fundamental reason(s) why so and so persons decided to use 'street drugs' in the first place. They tend to be too concerned with the fact that (by far, non-violent) people broke a (ridiculous, victimless) law by (for example) smoking some Weed. And that level of arrogance and ignorance has resulted in several decades-worth of SO MUCH needless, unjust pain and suffering.

If only this war on (certain) drugs would end once and for all; if only all 'street drug' users would receive harm reduction-based medical attention and support instead of being stigmatized, persecuted and thrown in jail and/or prison amongst rapists, murderers and pedophiles, I absolutely know without a doubt that it would mean the world to them and their loved ones, but I digress.

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I'm sorry, I really got carried away there (because my heart aches for victims of bullying in general), but I think you ought to read the following true story about a very unusual (rarely ever heard of) case of stress-related symptoms:

I happen to know someone who, despite the fact that he never smoked Tobacco, Cannabis, etc. (anything) before in his life, for the past couple of decades has been dealing with a chronic, dry, non-productive cough, which he thought had been an unfortunate result of complications from a tonsillectomy. Needless to say, it was (understandably) driving him and his wife completely bonkers, and he wanted answers (coughing every day for 20+ years will do that to most people).

And so, after ~3 years of medical test after medical test and doctor's appointment after doctor's appointment (the sum of which I imagine must have cost him an arm and a leg) in order to get to the bottom of this once and for all, he (as well as I) was totally shocked to find that his cardiologist, neurologist and psychiatrist together concluded that his cough (which continues to this day) is a result of decades of high levels of chronic stress. And in my case, I had absolutely no idea such a manifestation was remotely possible, but it appears I was wrong.

By the way, could your sore throat be due to inflamed tonsils? Or, is there a chance that it is a manifestation of anxiety? After what I learned regarding the aforementioned case, I honestly wouldn't be surprised.

Again, I sincerely apologize for the very long reply, and I appreciate you taking the time to read through it, take care and bless you.
 
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My throat has been sore but it seems like it might be getting a little bit better. Not sure if anyone else saw my thread in the dark side or not but I figured I might as well post here.

To be honest, I'm still not sure if what I'm dealing with is the same as a Long Term Comedown from MDMA. Basically the history of my drug usage in this time is as follows. All of this began two months ago.

Wednesday: Consume probably a tenth of a gram of MDA, something called Sass by a friend of mine. Went to show, back to my house, drank til 4am, slept for a few hours and went to work at 830 the next day.

Slept thursday night for 8 hours.

Friday: Drive to colorado for concert. Get there, plan on not taking drugs, but I'm tired and I take 10mg of adderall from my friend. I also had some acid on me, and I my friend knew and I obliged, and she begged me to trip with her and I agreed to. I did not initially want to do this, but I was tired, figured a little bit would keep me awake, and plus it was the kind of show where you would trip at. I have taken L almost every time I've seen this band and been fine so I thought it would be cool. Long story short, met up with some friends, one of my friends convinces me to take another hit that he had, so at this point I probably took 3 hits of L. My subconscious reared it's head something fierce and by the second set of the show I had a complete freakout regarding self-esteem and sexuality. The rest of the night I was paranoid, one of my friend's the girl I was with, tried her best to talk me down but it didn't work and I couldn't help myself.

I tried to sleep but was unable to that night.

The next day my friend offered to sell me some molly. Normally I don't do molly, but it was for a very good price and was pure crystal. I knew it was legit. Or at least I'm pretty sure, it was in rock form, the color of molly (brownish pink). I purchase a gram. I never normally buy this much molly. To be honest I never buy molly in general really (aside from the MDA from a friend of mine a few days before). Before the concert I got very drunk. Moreso than normal, I thought I could ward off my paranoid thoughts and delusions by drinking. The reasoning behind this was I almost had a bad trip during the summer at a different concert and a friend gave me a pep talk and lots of whiskey and it helped bring me back down to reasonable level where I had fun.

I think drinking was my big mistake. I was very drunk, and at the beginning of the show decided to take some of the molly. I broke a small chunk off the rock and did some. Then I Was feeling better and foolishly decided to take 1 hit of lsd. After this, I'm not sure when I remember trying to take more mdma but it made me sick and throw up so I gave the rest to my friend. I really don't know how much I took. At first I thought I took a lot but I later found out from my friend there was a considerable amount left when I gave it to her.

I estimate that I did somewhere between 100 and 200 mg. I'm not really sure though, it could have been slightly less or maybe even more.

Regardless, I did not have a good time that night, and I danced the whole night. I blacked out, don't remember much, but I know I was too out of it to even be smart enough to buy water.

I feel so dumb because normally I'm super smart with my drug usage and normally if I do molly I don't drink or don't drink that much and I'm sure to drink plenty of water.

Needless to say I was unable to sleep this night as well.

Night #3 of the shows I just drank, did not take any drugs. Still unable to sleep.

Went back home the next day, I was having all sorts of psychotic freak outs, thinking the radio was extremely relevant to my life etc. Couldn't sleep that night either.

4 whole days without sleep, the longest I've ever been awake in my life. Went to work the next day, left early due to freaking out, got a bunch of xanax from my friend and did some dabs and finally fell asleep.

Slept for 8-12 hours.

Since then I have had a litany of symptoms and I've gone to the doctor who claims nothing is really wrong with me. Also seeing a psychologist, who is great, and he seems to think my issues are primarily psychological, which to be honest I really hope is true.

My symptoms in order from worst to least bad are:

1. Poor sleep. Hard to fall asleep, always wake up once or twice in the night, hard to fall back asleep. I'm getting maybe 4-5 hours at the most every single night.

No deep sleep, just very light sleep with vivid dreams.

2. Reduced cognitive functioning. It's hard to explain, but I just feel a lot dumber. I'm making spelling errors, my job doesn't annoy me as much...previously I hated my job because it was so simple and mindless, now it is somewhat challenging. I keep forgetting things at work.

3. No sex drive (this maybe should be number 2). I have basically no sex drive. Looking at an attractive woman, or looking at porn does nothing for me. I do have my ex gf I've been hanging out with, and I've managed to have sex with her a couple of times but it is downright embarassing. I can barely last 20 or 30 seconds at most. Not that I was the best lover before this, but I've never been this bad. Orgasms aren't totally enjoyable, they are but it just feels diminished. Also during this my cock is not as hard as it could be. In the past if I was horny it would be rock hard, now while I can get erect it is still kind of squishy. I will get middle of the night/morning wood sometimes but it is still the same. Not as hard as it should be.

4. No appetite. This is kind of wrapped up with 3, it's as if all of my desire is gone. I have no appetite, not like I used to. Sometimes my stomach will growl, and I'll know that I should eat, but it all feels so mechanical. I don't enjoy eating anymore. It sucks because I used to love eating! I'm not fat but I do love a good meal and I loved to cook.

5. to be honest I don't enjoy anything really. I haven't felt truly happy once in the past two months. Mentally I can be in a situation in which I know I should be feeling good, but I do not. Whether I am with friends or anything I can't enjoy things. It sucks. The only positive is I have quite smoking cigarettes, but that's only because I truly do not enjoy smoking anymore. Ditto for weed and alcohol. I have tried to drink beer but every time I do I just get paranoid and it feels like I can feel my brain dying and I'm becoming more dumb. Basically it's like I get the negative effects of drinking without the positives (happiness, raising of mood, etc).

6. Impaired motor coordination. This one is hard to tell, because in general I've been kind of a lazy person for a while, but even when I'm driving I'm not like I used to be. Previously I was a rather speedy and precise driver. I would maybe drive faster than other cars but always felt supremely in control and never reckless. Now I sometimes find myself going slightly under the speed limit and just being all around more slow.

7. My hair is falling out. I realize this is probably related to stress, but still it sucks regardless. My hair is falling out, also things just feel different, my skin feels different, my beard and hair feel more coarse.

8. Sensory changes. My sense of smell is different than before as is my sense of taste. Food does not taste as good as it did, and I often find myself not recognizing certain smells. Example: my work actually provides us with lunch. This is great, however once every couple weeks it is tuna sandwiches. I like fish, but I'm not a fan of tuna and can't even stand the smell, just makes me think of cat food. Right after this happened we had a tuna day, and I was in the lunch room and didn't recognize it, to me I thought I was smelling shit or rotten eggs, but it turned out to be tuna...it just didn't smell like tuna to me.

9. Impaired Digestion. Maybe this goes along with appetite, but my digestion is fucked. My piss stream is very week, even when I drink lots of water. And I barely shit. Maybe I'll shit once every day or two, but I don't feel constipated. Previously I was almost always a twice a day shitter. I loved taking nice big poops. Now my poops come less frequently and aren't as big. Also I don't really get that "feel good" feeling when I go to the bathroom. Previously if I had to pee really bad, or take a big shit, and then did so, I would feel amazing relief and it would be very pleasurable to let it all go, now it just feels like I'm opening a latch and letting things fall out.

Those are really I think just about all of my symptoms. If I was going to add anything I would say depression/anxiety but that's pretty much a given at this point. Also for the first month after this happened I was having extreme psychosis where I often thought every day things were extremely relevant to my life. Things were downright spooky, thought Lucifer/Pan and other gods were trying to contact me, just lots of bizarre stuff happened.

I have thought perhaps this is a kundalini awakening of sorts but all of the effects are so negative. Also the psychosis has kind of stopped, but now I'm even worrying if that's a bad thing. At least when that was going on I felt that I had my wits about me. Now it seems as if that has slowed down, but I honestly wonder if it's because my brain in general has slowed down as well. I truly cannot think like how I used to think.

I'm praying that all of this is depression and/or anxiety but that just seems too much for me. I've been very depressed before (or so I thought, tbh I was actually quite depressed before this happened) and I've been anxious about things, but I Have never had so many physical effects.

That's what primarily concerns me. I can deal with being sad or having paranoid, almost schizophrenic like thoughts, but when my body seems to start failing, that's when I worry. I know that anxiety and mental disorders can cause some of the physical symptoms, but for all of this to be happening to me? It just doesn't make sense other than thinking I've severely damaged my serotonin system which regulates all of these functions.

The worst is I talk to friends and they say I just need to chill out and get some rest and I'll feel better. I've only been trying to chill out for the past two month. I can hang out at home and be lazy and watch tv, or spend the day outside and at the end I don't feel much better. Worse is I straight up cannot sleep well at all. I'm even taking ambien now and that doesn't help much. I just want to be able to sleep and get back to normal. If I didn't have parents who love me deeply, and I wasn't afraid of the afterlife consequences, I would definitely kill myself. I feel like I have squandered the few things I had going for me, and now I just feel awful about everything. Aside from that the only thing keeping me going is the idea that I will get better. But as time goes on that's harder and harder.

I just don't know what to do. I know I should exercise more, and I'm trying to eat right, but it's so hard when I can't get enough sleep. I really just have no desire to exercise when I only get 3 or 4 hours of sleep in a night. It just sucks not knowing what exactly is wrong and what exactly I need to do to fix it.
 
My throat has been sore but it seems like it might be getting a little bit better. Not sure if anyone else saw my thread in the dark side or not but I figured I might as well post here.

To be honest, I'm still not sure if what I'm dealing with is the same as a Long Term Comedown from MDMA. Basically the history of my drug usage in this time is as follows. All of this began two months ago.

Wednesday: Consume probably a tenth of a gram of MDA, something called Sass by a friend of mine. Went to show, back to my house, drank til 4am, slept for a few hours and went to work at 830 the next day.

Slept thursday night for 8 hours.

Friday: Drive to colorado for concert. Get there, plan on not taking drugs, but I'm tired and I take 10mg of adderall from my friend. I also had some acid on me, and I my friend knew and I obliged, and she begged me to trip with her and I agreed to. I did not initially want to do this, but I was tired, figured a little bit would keep me awake, and plus it was the kind of show where you would trip at. I have taken L almost every time I've seen this band and been fine so I thought it would be cool. Long story short, met up with some friends, one of my friends convinces me to take another hit that he had, so at this point I probably took 3 hits of L. My subconscious reared it's head something fierce and by the second set of the show I had a complete freakout regarding self-esteem and sexuality. The rest of the night I was paranoid, one of my friend's the girl I was with, tried her best to talk me down but it didn't work and I couldn't help myself.

I tried to sleep but was unable to that night.

The next day my friend offered to sell me some molly. Normally I don't do molly, but it was for a very good price and was pure crystal. I knew it was legit. Or at least I'm pretty sure, it was in rock form, the color of molly (brownish pink). I purchase a gram. I never normally buy this much molly. To be honest I never buy molly in general really (aside from the MDA from a friend of mine a few days before). Before the concert I got very drunk. Moreso than normal, I thought I could ward off my paranoid thoughts and delusions by drinking. The reasoning behind this was I almost had a bad trip during the summer at a different concert and a friend gave me a pep talk and lots of whiskey and it helped bring me back down to reasonable level where I had fun.

I think drinking was my big mistake. I was very drunk, and at the beginning of the show decided to take some of the molly. I broke a small chunk off the rock and did some. Then I Was feeling better and foolishly decided to take 1 hit of lsd. After this, I'm not sure when I remember trying to take more mdma but it made me sick and throw up so I gave the rest to my friend. I really don't know how much I took. At first I thought I took a lot but I later found out from my friend there was a considerable amount left when I gave it to her.

I estimate that I did somewhere between 100 and 200 mg. I'm not really sure though, it could have been slightly less or maybe even more.

Regardless, I did not have a good time that night, and I danced the whole night. I blacked out, don't remember much, but I know I was too out of it to even be smart enough to buy water.

I feel so dumb because normally I'm super smart with my drug usage and normally if I do molly I don't drink or don't drink that much and I'm sure to drink plenty of water.

Needless to say I was unable to sleep this night as well.

Night #3 of the shows I just drank, did not take any drugs. Still unable to sleep.

Went back home the next day, I was having all sorts of psychotic freak outs, thinking the radio was extremely relevant to my life etc. Couldn't sleep that night either.

4 whole days without sleep, the longest I've ever been awake in my life. Went to work the next day, left early due to freaking out, got a bunch of xanax from my friend and did some dabs and finally fell asleep.

Slept for 8-12 hours.

Since then I have had a litany of symptoms and I've gone to the doctor who claims nothing is really wrong with me. Also seeing a psychologist, who is great, and he seems to think my issues are primarily psychological, which to be honest I really hope is true.

My symptoms in order from worst to least bad are:

1. Poor sleep. Hard to fall asleep, always wake up once or twice in the night, hard to fall back asleep. I'm getting maybe 4-5 hours at the most every single night.

No deep sleep, just very light sleep with vivid dreams.

2. Reduced cognitive functioning. It's hard to explain, but I just feel a lot dumber. I'm making spelling errors, my job doesn't annoy me as much...previously I hated my job because it was so simple and mindless, now it is somewhat challenging. I keep forgetting things at work.

3. No sex drive (this maybe should be number 2). I have basically no sex drive. Looking at an attractive woman, or looking at porn does nothing for me. I do have my ex gf I've been hanging out with, and I've managed to have sex with her a couple of times but it is downright embarassing. I can barely last 20 or 30 seconds at most. Not that I was the best lover before this, but I've never been this bad. Orgasms aren't totally enjoyable, they are but it just feels diminished. Also during this my cock is not as hard as it could be. In the past if I was horny it would be rock hard, now while I can get erect it is still kind of squishy. I will get middle of the night/morning wood sometimes but it is still the same. Not as hard as it should be.

4. No appetite. This is kind of wrapped up with 3, it's as if all of my desire is gone. I have no appetite, not like I used to. Sometimes my stomach will growl, and I'll know that I should eat, but it all feels so mechanical. I don't enjoy eating anymore. It sucks because I used to love eating! I'm not fat but I do love a good meal and I loved to cook.

5. to be honest I don't enjoy anything really. I haven't felt truly happy once in the past two months. Mentally I can be in a situation in which I know I should be feeling good, but I do not. Whether I am with friends or anything I can't enjoy things. It sucks. The only positive is I have quite smoking cigarettes, but that's only because I truly do not enjoy smoking anymore. Ditto for weed and alcohol. I have tried to drink beer but every time I do I just get paranoid and it feels like I can feel my brain dying and I'm becoming more dumb. Basically it's like I get the negative effects of drinking without the positives (happiness, raising of mood, etc).

6. Impaired motor coordination. This one is hard to tell, because in general I've been kind of a lazy person for a while, but even when I'm driving I'm not like I used to be. Previously I was a rather speedy and precise driver. I would maybe drive faster than other cars but always felt supremely in control and never reckless. Now I sometimes find myself going slightly under the speed limit and just being all around more slow.

7. My hair is falling out. I realize this is probably related to stress, but still it sucks regardless. My hair is falling out, also things just feel different, my skin feels different, my beard and hair feel more coarse.

8. Sensory changes. My sense of smell is different than before as is my sense of taste. Food does not taste as good as it did, and I often find myself not recognizing certain smells. Example: my work actually provides us with lunch. This is great, however once every couple weeks it is tuna sandwiches. I like fish, but I'm not a fan of tuna and can't even stand the smell, just makes me think of cat food. Right after this happened we had a tuna day, and I was in the lunch room and didn't recognize it, to me I thought I was smelling shit or rotten eggs, but it turned out to be tuna...it just didn't smell like tuna to me.

9. Impaired Digestion. Maybe this goes along with appetite, but my digestion is fucked. My piss stream is very week, even when I drink lots of water. And I barely shit. Maybe I'll shit once every day or two, but I don't feel constipated. Previously I was almost always a twice a day shitter. I loved taking nice big poops. Now my poops come less frequently and aren't as big. Also I don't really get that "feel good" feeling when I go to the bathroom. Previously if I had to pee really bad, or take a big shit, and then did so, I would feel amazing relief and it would be very pleasurable to let it all go, now it just feels like I'm opening a latch and letting things fall out.

Those are really I think just about all of my symptoms. If I was going to add anything I would say depression/anxiety but that's pretty much a given at this point. Also for the first month after this happened I was having extreme psychosis where I often thought every day things were extremely relevant to my life. Things were downright spooky, thought Lucifer/Pan and other gods were trying to contact me, just lots of bizarre stuff happened.

I have thought perhaps this is a kundalini awakening of sorts but all of the effects are so negative. Also the psychosis has kind of stopped, but now I'm even worrying if that's a bad thing. At least when that was going on I felt that I had my wits about me. Now it seems as if that has slowed down, but I honestly wonder if it's because my brain in general has slowed down as well. I truly cannot think like how I used to think.

I'm praying that all of this is depression and/or anxiety but that just seems too much for me. I've been very depressed before (or so I thought, tbh I was actually quite depressed before this happened) and I've been anxious about things, but I Have never had so many physical effects.

That's what primarily concerns me. I can deal with being sad or having paranoid, almost schizophrenic like thoughts, but when my body seems to start failing, that's when I worry. I know that anxiety and mental disorders can cause some of the physical symptoms, but for all of this to be happening to me? It just doesn't make sense other than thinking I've severely damaged my serotonin system which regulates all of these functions.

The worst is I talk to friends and they say I just need to chill out and get some rest and I'll feel better. I've only been trying to chill out for the past two month. I can hang out at home and be lazy and watch tv, or spend the day outside and at the end I don't feel much better. Worse is I straight up cannot sleep well at all. I'm even taking ambien now and that doesn't help much. I just want to be able to sleep and get back to normal. If I didn't have parents who love me deeply, and I wasn't afraid of the afterlife consequences, I would definitely kill myself. I feel like I have squandered the few things I had going for me, and now I just feel awful about everything. Aside from that the only thing keeping me going is the idea that I will get better. But as time goes on that's harder and harder.

I just don't know what to do. I know I should exercise more, and I'm trying to eat right, but it's so hard when I can't get enough sleep. I really just have no desire to exercise when I only get 3 or 4 hours of sleep in a night. It just sucks not knowing what exactly is wrong and what exactly I need to do to fix it.
The combination of being drunk and the MDMA is probably what has triggered these physical symptoms due to some sort of dysfunction to the serotonin system. Funny how one doesn't realise how awesome ones life is until this shit happens. That said lots of your complaints are what people on this forum now refer to as a LTC. I have been on this forum for a number of years and it's fair to say that 99 per cent of people who suffer physical symptoms do recover. Some have far more serious symptoms and you don't have these. 2 months is still early days. There is no quick fix you just need time for your brain to 'rebalance'. To aid this do all the things one would do if you were unwell or sustained an injury. Ie eat well, really do try to exercise. As you are having trouble sleeping, in the short term some sort of sleeping pill could be effective as not being able to sleep doesn't help at all. Easier said than done but try not to stress. Be assured there is no blood test, brain scan or magic pill which will fix this. Time is the great healer but do excise and try stay away from alcohol which is also neurotoxicity like mdma. It could take up to a year to get your old self back but you just have to grind it out I'm afraid. Good luck and do not spend hours reading about other people's stories as they are pretty similar and can just heighten anxiety which you want to avoid.
 
I just don't know what to do. I know I should exercise more, and I'm trying to eat right, but it's so hard when I can't get enough sleep. I really just have no desire to exercise when I only get 3 or 4 hours of sleep in a night. It just sucks not knowing what exactly is wrong and what exactly I need to do to fix it.

I know the feeling bro :-(

I can tell you from my own experience that my symptoms did not improve until after I resorted to Rx meds. And whenever I'd try to open up about it with friends and family they'd tell me that I need to relax.

If you want my advice, I encourage you to go the medication route if you feel it's the only chance you've got left. I was so close to ending my life before I decided to try Rx meds in a last ditch effort. And while it took nearly over 18 months from the start of my meds for me to recover, I gladly took it over more of the same chronic torture.

Ya know, call me Captain Obvious, but I don't think others who have not been through this ordeal truly understand just how utterly severe and distressing it is.
 
I know the feeling bro :-(

I can tell you from my own experience that my symptoms did not improve until after I resorted to Rx meds. And whenever I'd try to open up about it with friends and family they'd tell me that I need to relax.

If you want my advice, I encourage you to go the medication route if you feel it's the only chance you've got left. I was so close to ending my life before I decided to try Rx meds in a last ditch effort. And while it took nearly over 18 months from the start of my meds for me to recover, I gladly took it over more of the same chronic torture.

Ya know, call me Captain Obvious, but I don't think others who have not been through this ordeal truly understand just how utterly severe and distressing it is.
What are Rx meds? Antidepressants?
 
I know the feeling bro :-(

I can tell you from my own experience that my symptoms did not improve until after I resorted to Rx meds. And whenever I'd try to open up about it with friends and family they'd tell me that I need to relax.

If you want my advice, I encourage you to go the medication route if you feel it's the only chance you've got left. I was so close to ending my life before I decided to try Rx meds in a last ditch effort. And while it took nearly over 18 months from the start of my meds for me to recover, I gladly took it over more of the same chronic torture.

Ya know, call me Captain Obvious, but I don't think others who have not been through this ordeal truly understand just how utterly severe and distressing it is.

Thanks for the reply. I guess it is a bit of a relief knowing that there are others who have gone through this.

Still it just sucks so bad, to have so much of my body and mind not functioning properly. It honestly feels like I've been chopped down in the prime of my life.

The thought that I might never recover is very distressing and that's how it feels right now. Worse is that I can't seem to find many others who have the same symptoms that I do.

I mean shit, I can't even be an alcoholic or drown my sorrows in anyway. Nothing brings me pleasure. Can't drink or do drugs. Can't jack off. Can barely have sex but it isn't enjoyable. Reading is okay but my comprehension is shit right now. I can go for walks outside, and there is a nice trail by my house that I like, but it is getting cold soon and I won't be able to use that much longer.

I can't even gorge myself on food as it's not enjoyable to eat and I don't have an appetite. Hanging out with friends just makes me feel awkward. I mean I have great friends but when your main activity is hanging out and smoking weed or grabbing a drink at the bar and you can't do that it's hard.

Even listening to music, probably my main pastime, is no longer enjoyable and sometimes is honestly downright terrifying. I know that sounds fucked by music literally doesn't sound as good to me anymore and some songs I'm seeing from a different perspective and they freak me out. I think it's a combination from a bad acid trip plus the ltc from the mdma. Its like I'm unable to integrate what happened plus I feel like shit all the time.

I can't even be depressed and find solace in sleeping all the time because I can't sleep for shit. I constantly have headaches because I'm sleep deprived, and not even ambien is helping. It allows me to sleep for 3 or 4 hours but that's it.

I do have a seroquel prescription from when I met with a psychiatrist (who I felt really didn't know what he was talking about). It's a low dose for sleep but I've been reluctant to take it due to many of the side effects I've read about. However, I may give it a go because the lack of sleep is really driving me crazy.

I have to ask, what prescription meds did you take and how much did you recover? At this point I feel I'm beyond anxiety and depression. I don't care if I'm a sad lonely anxious person as long as I could just have simple pleasures in life. That's all I really cared about before, having good times with friends, making the most out of each day. Although I could get depressed sometimes, I truly enjoyed my life before this.

It all just feels like a cosmic punishment for fucking up my life and not trusting my gut. Now I don't even really have a gut feeling on anything.
 
^ IIRC: Zoloft (Sertraline) 100mg Once Daily + Xanax (Alprazolam) 0.5mg Three Times a Day for 8.5 months
followed by
Wellbutrin XL (Bupropion) 300mg Once Daily + Xanax (Alprazolam) 0.5 mg Three Times a Day for 3.5 months
 
I don't mean to ask a million questions but what were your initial symptoms?

Do you think you've recovered fully? Or is it only a partial recovery?

Thanks for responding.
 
Yo skeeto222 i also don't get any joy out of life anymore...
my sex drive is ok, and i can ejaculate but its just not as intense i guess
music sounds ok to me i guess, not great but not bad

i have a question for you; can you laugh or cry ? also do you find yourself a bit awkward in social situations like you got nothing to say ?
 
I can laugh at something funny. I can still cry but not as easily as I used to be able to. Not that I was a wuss, but I was a very positive person, seeing inspiring stories and the like could often move me to tears. Rarely would I cry out of sadness.

I find myself extremely awkward in social situations now. I pretty much avoid all situations unless I'm with very close friends. And even then I'm awkward, not like myself, I try to make conversation but it just ends up with me talking about how much I fucked myself up.

That's good that your sex drive is intact. Also, I shouldn't say music sounds bad to me, although some of it does, rather before this music was damn near euphoric for me when it was good, now even the best stuff just makes me feel kinda "meh".
 
ahh well at least you got some emotions...i just feel empty and dead inside >.>

Like seriously, the last time i remember crying was in like 2009 lol...although i have laughed a few times, maybe like once a month

Anyways i haven't touched a drug (Accept for ciggs) for like nearly 4 months, so im hoping in 1 year i can get somewhere close to 'normal'...but i also know we have to work hard to recover, like exercise, eating healthy, meditation ect and for me i need to quit ciggs but got so much work to do ffs
 
London is that when you took the MDMA?

Have you been suffering with this "LTC" for 6 years?!

Also I know it sounds dumb but I'm jealous of you smoking cigs. I was a cig smoker before all this started, but due to my bad trip (I was having more effects from the LSD psychosis than the mdma at first, or so I thought) I became convinced that smoking cigs was literally gay and so they disgusted me and I was able to quit immediately.

Tbh I wish I was still addicted and smoked them because at least that could be one thing in my life that I enjoy.
 
Also Ryan23 I got an email saying you tried to message me. Feel free to send another one. I'm still a new user so I have to empty my inbox frequently because it only holds 5 messages (why is this a rule for new members).

I would wait the 180 minutes and message you back but I need to get my post count up anyways so I can store more messages and not have to constantly delete them.
 
no my friend, its just simply the last time i remember crying.

I'd say ive been suffering for like at least 2 years, and its not due to MDMA, its either due to smoking weed every single days for years, or i might of developed PTSD...i dont even know why im emotionally numb. It could even be a weed-induced depression, but i've never been depressed before so i dont really know whats wrong with me.

Oh and i don't really enjoy smoking ciggs, the only time i do is when im drunk or after a really filling meal.

Anyways last time i smoked weed was 7th July, and i've barely seen any improvements. Also the reason i post here is because a lot of LTC sufferers have my symptoms, notably 'somdud', but tragically i suspect he committed suicide...and tbh i can understand why he did it
 
Honestly I don't think somedud committed suicide. I read the obituary and it just said he died suddenly. Then again, there are many reasons why one would not say suicide in particular.

No offense dude but it sounds like you might just be depressed, which sucks, but I don't think you have the kind of brain damage that I and others, like somedud, had. His seemed particularly bad, not just from the mdma but also the concussion...very sad story.

Dude if you can eat a meal and feel good after it because it filled you up, and you can still get drunk, congrats. Drinking just gives me an almost immediate headache now, there is no enjoyable aspect to drinking. It's fucked, I'm depressed because of all that's happened and I can't even drown my sorrows and forget about things for a few hours with booze.

There are psychological factors for me too. Basically after graduating college I got this shitty jog at a good organization and I've spent the past two years just getting high and drunk and not pursuing anything worthwhile in my life. I kept telling myself I was going to get my shit together. Earlier this summer after a profound acid trip I finally had the realization I really wanted to go back to school, I was happy and motivated for the first time in a while. Then 2 months after that realization I had this other acid trip and MDMA overdose which has caused my current situation. It fucking sucks, I was finally ready to give up my old ways, figured I could party one last time (and mdma wasn't even a thing I did regularly...I think the last time I did any, and it was a small amount, was in april, and before that, a tenth of a gram in february).

I don't want to be condescending. I don't know what you're going through. But I would do anything to be able to actually enjoy a meal and beer right now.
 
Not being able to feel joy and pleasure from activities that used to give you joy and pleasure totally sucks. I also suffer from this malaise called anhedonia to some extent. I would say i am about 50% anhedonic right now. The question that bothers my mind ,however, is whether this symptom is due to chemical disbalance caused by depression and anxiety or due to actual damage to the serotonin network. If it is due to the disbalance then theoretically RX meds should correct this problem and it would be probably benefitial to reside to the measures of trying the meds; if ,however, anhedonia is due to " brain damage" then Rx meds can potentially worsen the reparative processes that are occuring within our brains and make the whole situation even worse.
 
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