ForEverAfter
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(MDMA) Out of Body Experience on Harry Potter Beans! MUST READ!! SUPER CREEPY!!
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He's lucky all he saw was his own body as he tried to gain the attention of his friends. 
He should see what I've been through. (plenty of old trip reports by me around!)
Near Death or Out Of Body experiences definitely raise some serious questions and arguments about life in general and what we have all been taught.
I'd go so far as to say when it happened to me I didn't care if I came back here.. I wanted to stay there.
I suppose that may be something the conscious world doesn't want you to know.
It would seem they want you to stay here and make some taxes from you for a while first..
or so you may be told in whatever you might consider to be the afterlife or the departure of your soul from your body permanently.
Either way it's scary as hell and people like us need support on this kind of thing.
Love you guys
Try an be safer is all we can do.
While we are here, we are still at the very least stuck in the human body and should try to enjoy it.
From what I can see, there is something after you may be conscious of when it happens.
Now days I realize well I don't need to be as high as I possibly can be.
A keen buzz is fine enough. I don't need to keep striving for those crazy super breathrough near death almost dead experiences.
Pretty sure this is where that funny saying "If you get the message, hang up the phone" comes in.
He should see what I've been through. (plenty of old trip reports by me around!)
Near Death or Out Of Body experiences definitely raise some serious questions and arguments about life in general and what we have all been taught.
I'd go so far as to say when it happened to me I didn't care if I came back here.. I wanted to stay there.
I suppose that may be something the conscious world doesn't want you to know.
It would seem they want you to stay here and make some taxes from you for a while first..
or so you may be told in whatever you might consider to be the afterlife or the departure of your soul from your body permanently.
Either way it's scary as hell and people like us need support on this kind of thing.
Love you guys
Try an be safer is all we can do.
While we are here, we are still at the very least stuck in the human body and should try to enjoy it.
From what I can see, there is something after you may be conscious of when it happens.
Now days I realize well I don't need to be as high as I possibly can be.
A keen buzz is fine enough. I don't need to keep striving for those crazy super breathrough near death almost dead experiences.
Pretty sure this is where that funny saying "If you get the message, hang up the phone" comes in.
100% correct - I was making an assumption that he misunderstood the situation and I should have put 'probably or may' in my sentence as per my next sentence (as I do not know for certain -my mistake). The thought of him having an OBE simply didn't occur to me and I based my reply on the details I had read (5untested pills, starving his brain of oxygen and then being dropped on his head) led him in a state of confusion / and assumed that he may have misunderstood the situation.
justinsayno
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i have left my body several times, without the use of drugs.
the experience will be far more memorable and will leave a longer lasting impression if its achieved 'naturally'
it wont be 'scary' either
the experience will be far more memorable and will leave a longer lasting impression if its achieved 'naturally'
it wont be 'scary' either
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Most people here in this situation I think don't know that or don't know how.. and likely found out accidentally on drugs. Then again I think there is others who knew very well what may happen if they ingest some of this stuff by things they hear floating around various places.
But I agree it's a great idea to steer them that way.
Jumping out of body on drugs is not sustainable on a regular basis without something going wrong eventually.
I've still yet to figure it out sober and I'm well and done doing it on drugs.
You learn your lesson fast and hard being a curious cat, unfortunately.
But I agree it's a great idea to steer them that way.
Jumping out of body on drugs is not sustainable on a regular basis without something going wrong eventually.
I've still yet to figure it out sober and I'm well and done doing it on drugs.
You learn your lesson fast and hard being a curious cat, unfortunately.
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its a piece of piss, children do it all the time.
step one - get healthy, stop smoking weed [ ever notice how it stops you having / remembering dreams? ]
step two - keep a dream diary
step three - practice visualisation, visualise the room you are in with your eyes closed....thats actually harder than it sounds
or visualise a ball of light...whaever feels comfortable.
step four - possibly the most important --- stop 'trying to figure it out'! ---
children dont waste thier time thinking about it...they just do it.
get on with your life, make the effort to keep that dream diary, but dont focus on it or worry about it, make the visualisation / meditation part of your night time routine, but just do it for the sake of it, not as a means to an end.
then the dreams become more vivid.....then gradually, they become lucid [ setting two alarms will help ]
then one day you will have a lucid dream so powerful that you will know that you were somewhere else...
i'm just getting back into all this.....after a 10+ years break....
making slow progress....but my dreams are deffo getting very intense these days...
as for astral projection
i am 100% certain that i achieved it when i was in my late teens.....lower your expectations [ maybe? ] you wont be able to fly to the moon at will....but you may return to a park where you had happy days as a child....you only take your heart with you, your head stays in bed with the rest of your body...so you only go to places that mean something to you
so forget everything you've ever read about miltitary remote viewing....that is all so easily debunked
just my opinion...i'm the least new-agey person you could ever hope to meet but i knkw what i've seen maaan.
we are capable of doing it
i wonder how many ppl will stop reading after the bit where i mention stopping weed? its not a magic plant, its just a plant, and IMO, if you're after lucid dreams / astral projection it will not help
step one - get healthy, stop smoking weed [ ever notice how it stops you having / remembering dreams? ]
step two - keep a dream diary
step three - practice visualisation, visualise the room you are in with your eyes closed....thats actually harder than it sounds
or visualise a ball of light...whaever feels comfortable.
step four - possibly the most important --- stop 'trying to figure it out'! ---
children dont waste thier time thinking about it...they just do it.
get on with your life, make the effort to keep that dream diary, but dont focus on it or worry about it, make the visualisation / meditation part of your night time routine, but just do it for the sake of it, not as a means to an end.
then the dreams become more vivid.....then gradually, they become lucid [ setting two alarms will help ]
then one day you will have a lucid dream so powerful that you will know that you were somewhere else...
i'm just getting back into all this.....after a 10+ years break....
making slow progress....but my dreams are deffo getting very intense these days...
as for astral projection
i am 100% certain that i achieved it when i was in my late teens.....lower your expectations [ maybe? ] you wont be able to fly to the moon at will....but you may return to a park where you had happy days as a child....you only take your heart with you, your head stays in bed with the rest of your body...so you only go to places that mean something to you
so forget everything you've ever read about miltitary remote viewing....that is all so easily debunked
just my opinion...i'm the least new-agey person you could ever hope to meet but i knkw what i've seen maaan.
we are capable of doing it
i wonder how many ppl will stop reading after the bit where i mention stopping weed? its not a magic plant, its just a plant, and IMO, if you're after lucid dreams / astral projection it will not help
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Step 1 - vapourize NN-DMT
Step 2 - Repeat step 1
Step 2 - Repeat step 1
justinsayno
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well thats how you get extra DMT into the bloodstream. I was talking about something else entirely. Nothing i have read about DMT reminds me in anyway of the experiences i've had lucid dreaming / astral travelling.
You're comparing apples with oranges =-]
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No, I was comparing using astral traveling to achieve an OBE with using DMT for the same purpose.
Asral travelling sounds very hit and miss, follow my 2 easy steps and your chances of success are much higher IMO.
(Have you drawn unicorns on your dream diary ?)
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still think you've missed the point somehow.
the conversation had moved to drug-free oobes.
taking drugs to achieve a drug-free oobe ? erm...
as for unicorns...hell yeah!
unicorns are coolest thing ever, they may have girly colours but they'll ripfuck your shit till tuesday if you get on thier bad side.
a very misunderstood creature
the conversation had moved to drug-free oobes.
taking drugs to achieve a drug-free oobe ? erm...
as for unicorns...hell yeah!
unicorns are coolest thing ever, they may have girly colours but they'll ripfuck your shit till tuesday if you get on thier bad side.
a very misunderstood creature
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No it hasn't, you tried to hijack this thread which was about about psychedelics with your new age personal me me me indigo special rap, take it to Philosophy and spirituality where you may find some one interested.
Also - grammatically "oobes" is incorrect, you are using it as an acronym for out of body experiences, there is no word in that that starts with S, so your acronym should have been oobe's (which funnily enough rhymes with NOOBS.)
No need to thank me, happy to help.
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ForEverAfter
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Calm down, Kevin. I'm interested. There's no need for hostility. A safe alternative for obes is entirely appropriate.
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I'm interested too, but It felt like someone had walked into a room full of people already having a discussion and was saying, wait, this whole conversation has now changed to something I want to talk about.
And the name "justinsayno" pushed the Nancy Reagan warning button for me conjuring up images of innocent people being marginalized and teenagers wanking themselves silly and getting friction burns from their abstinence bracelets.
Not a nice image to go with my morning bagel.
Apologies.
And the name "justinsayno" pushed the Nancy Reagan warning button for me conjuring up images of innocent people being marginalized and teenagers wanking themselves silly and getting friction burns from their abstinence bracelets.
Not a nice image to go with my morning bagel.
Apologies.
ForEverAfter
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Regarding your grammar lesson, there are two schools of thought on the subject of using apostrophes with acronyms. Both "OOBEs" and "OOBE's" are considered to be acceptable. Furthermore, this is not a high school English exam. It is a public forum. We all understood exactly what Justin meant, so there is no need to correct him. Other than trying to make him look foolish. Which is, in itself, a foolish endeavor.
Apology accepted.
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Apology accepted.
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i didnt hijack anything.
Somebody mentioned OOBEs, so i wrote two, just two, comments on the matter. One was fairly long, but thought i'd just throw enough in to cover it all and leave it there, people were, and still are, free to either read it or ignore it.
I dont think that qualifies as hijacking, especially as this thread started with people taking the piss out of the OP and pretty much got random after that.
Taking the time to correct people's grammar and spelling on the internet is pretty sad don't you think ?
All that DMT you've smoked obviously hasnt taught you that much if you still feel the need to be hostile towards someone you could just as easily ignore.
But on the subject
"the use of the apostrophe to form plurals of proper words, as in apple's, banana's, out of body experience's etc, is universally considered incorrect"
thats what wiki says, and thats how i was taught. Any differences are likely to be regional.
Shall we now argue about how colour is spelt ?
It would be just as interesting and worthwhile.
I shall now go and change my user name to Justintakesloadsadrugs, as you seem to have an irony deficiency and I dont want to put you off lunch as well as breakfast
Somebody mentioned OOBEs, so i wrote two, just two, comments on the matter. One was fairly long, but thought i'd just throw enough in to cover it all and leave it there, people were, and still are, free to either read it or ignore it.
I dont think that qualifies as hijacking, especially as this thread started with people taking the piss out of the OP and pretty much got random after that.
Taking the time to correct people's grammar and spelling on the internet is pretty sad don't you think ?
All that DMT you've smoked obviously hasnt taught you that much if you still feel the need to be hostile towards someone you could just as easily ignore.
But on the subject
"the use of the apostrophe to form plurals of proper words, as in apple's, banana's, out of body experience's etc, is universally considered incorrect"
thats what wiki says, and thats how i was taught. Any differences are likely to be regional.
Shall we now argue about how colour is spelt ?
It would be just as interesting and worthwhile.
I shall now go and change my user name to Justintakesloadsadrugs, as you seem to have an irony deficiency and I dont want to put you off lunch as well as breakfast
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NO no... my bad, i was having a bitch of a morning and was totally rude and out of line.
Genuinely sorry about that, I was wrong to offload my bad day onto you.
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i know soooo many people in the real world who would rather cut out thier own tongues than say sorry, so that last comment came as a pleasant surprise.
hope your day / tomorrow gets better
no hard feeling's ;-]
hope your day / tomorrow gets better
no hard feeling's ;-]
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Thank you.
coleminor
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@ Blanch, Thank you for your informative reply
This story was from like a really long time ago, Just last year on my birthday (nov 2) I decided to roll again, I've rolled maybe like 4 or 5 times since then, but I don't really do it too much anymore, It's no longer my drug of choice, but I still enjoy it when I do it. There's too many fakes goin around anyways now, and you really never know what you're going to get. I Suppose ecstasy is like a box of chocolates lol.. I like my drugs from a pharmacy at this point, at least then I know what I'm getting (for the most part)
This story was from like a really long time ago, Just last year on my birthday (nov 2) I decided to roll again, I've rolled maybe like 4 or 5 times since then, but I don't really do it too much anymore, It's no longer my drug of choice, but I still enjoy it when I do it. There's too many fakes goin around anyways now, and you really never know what you're going to get. I Suppose ecstasy is like a box of chocolates lol.. I like my drugs from a pharmacy at this point, at least then I know what I'm getting (for the most part)
To me it doesn't even sound like you stayed passed out because you hit your head. Your experience sounded like it was ketamine, especially the echo and springy sounding voices and the out of body feeling. The floating feeling and the feeling of space and darkness also make me think the same thing. Next time buy a test kit and test your tablets before you take them.
Don't take it to heart, but you're a drama queen, man. First you say it was cut with heroin with nothing to back it up. What gave you this idea anyway, the brown coloring in the binders and fillers, haha? The "must read!! super creepy!! in caps, none the less. "And though he would play pranks on me, he would never intentionally ruin my roll, because we all knew how bad it could be when you have a bad roll." How bad it can be when you have a bad roll...are you serious? It's not a profound experience like LSD kid, and it probably wasn't even MDMA. You can't wig out and have a "bad roll" like a bad trip, they are not close to the same. A bad roll would be taking too much and having anticholinergic (stimulant-like i.e sweating, pupil diation, racing heart, tremors etc...) side effects. Also, do you really think they were plotting to kill you and bury you in the woods? Come on, man, be realistic. This is a harm reduction site, not a place to try and sound cool or make shit up, a lot of us here are adults.
The main point in the story is you had a fun time swimming and got your friend to cut off your oxygen (not smart in HR sense) and you had an out of body feeling from the drugs you took, not that scary. The most scary part would be for the other guys taking the blame for doing something stupid like trying to make you or someone else pass out.
That's just my opinion, so take it as you wish. It's not intended as a personal attack. Hopefully the experience will just restore some common sense.
Don't take it to heart, but you're a drama queen, man. First you say it was cut with heroin with nothing to back it up. What gave you this idea anyway, the brown coloring in the binders and fillers, haha? The "must read!! super creepy!! in caps, none the less. "And though he would play pranks on me, he would never intentionally ruin my roll, because we all knew how bad it could be when you have a bad roll." How bad it can be when you have a bad roll...are you serious? It's not a profound experience like LSD kid, and it probably wasn't even MDMA. You can't wig out and have a "bad roll" like a bad trip, they are not close to the same. A bad roll would be taking too much and having anticholinergic (stimulant-like i.e sweating, pupil diation, racing heart, tremors etc...) side effects. Also, do you really think they were plotting to kill you and bury you in the woods? Come on, man, be realistic. This is a harm reduction site, not a place to try and sound cool or make shit up, a lot of us here are adults.
The main point in the story is you had a fun time swimming and got your friend to cut off your oxygen (not smart in HR sense) and you had an out of body feeling from the drugs you took, not that scary. The most scary part would be for the other guys taking the blame for doing something stupid like trying to make you or someone else pass out.
That's just my opinion, so take it as you wish. It's not intended as a personal attack. Hopefully the experience will just restore some common sense.