WatMyConditionIsIn
Bluelighter
well i went to a friends birthday party at a club and then an after party and over the course of about 8 or 9 hours i had consumed in order: 1 white transformer head (assumed to be piperazine mix, most likely BZP/TFMPP due to them being the most common pipe mix in 3d shaped pills (i have only encountered pipes twice and both times involved transformer heads (big surprise!!!) and some other 3d shaped pill so i am not an authority on specific effects of different pipes) and to it feeling a lot like MDMA without the extreme empathy and mood lift (some visual activity but not over the top, and a budy buzz that never really reached the full potential of MDMA) until halfway through second hour and the disgusting toxic feeling that was present mostly in my arms on then comedown), followed maybe 2 hours later by a good clean gelcap of molly (I base them being good quality MDMA on the fact that ive never had a shitty clear gelcap, the contents were easily visible as mostly crystals, the guy who i got them from had an altoids container full of them and ate one with me and i assume was eating them all night and he was obviously rolling his balls off, i also knew for certain it wasnt MDA because i would have been tripping really hard, its possible that it contained some other MDXX but i doubt that as MDA/MDMA are more well known and popular), between 1 and 2 hours later another pill whose 3d shape i cannot remember (also assumed to be piperazine cocktail because it was obtained from the same source as the transformer and almost everybody knows how notorious 3d designs have become for their pipe content, except my friends, which i found both hilarious and deeply disturbing. First off none of them even knew what a piperazine was, one thought he was rolling hard on two pipe tabs despite him describing his experience as "tripping my fucking ass off" with intense tracers and visuals along with MDMA-esque physical effects, one skipped taking the second pipe tab till way later in the night because he felt something was just not right about the first, and another who was actually rolling as hard as me because she had also consumed several of the same batch of MDMA caps with me.) lastly about an hour or so later the second gelcap obtained from the same person was eaten. i know this may seem excessive to some but i knew the piperazines would most likely be weak and this was confirmed when the first one never built to a peak until well after i had dosed the first cap and even then it is questionable if the pipe cocktail had much to do with me rolling pretty hard throughout the night. anyways after the party we shared a cab home and when i got into my bed (knowing i would not be sleeping anytime soon) my arms began to tingle in a very unpleasant and what i would describe as almost "caustic" or "toxic" way. the began to get all rashy and blotchy and it felt as if some horrible chemical was coursing through my veins (which i guess was true depending on your fondness for pipes, certainly true for me). it is now 41 hours since the first pipe pill and about 30 hours since the last MDMA pill was dropped and my arms are not improving, if anything getting worse with what appears to be little black spots literally showing up on my skin. it even looks like they are moving because i still have very slight tracers and visual distortions. now i am well aware that this phenomenon can happen with heavy abuse of most drugs and also sleep deprivation also plays a huge role in the visual distortions (i have only slept about 3 hours in the last 55.
i can see how this would be a very unpleasant situation if one where heavily tweaked out or without sleep for many days or even weeks as the urge to tear every single one of the buggers away would be irresistible in that instance. as for me im more intrigued as ive never had this type of thing happen before where i wasnt sure if it was real or not, only excessive acid trips that made me see little bugs or mosquitos everywhere, in such i was still able to tell myself, despite not being able to see anything in my vision except little black bugs, that i was on a powerful hallucinogenic drug and that goes with the territory of extremely high doses of psychedelics, and finally and also most important that i will be sober in several hours and if i find something else interesting to do i will stop focusing on whatever is bothering me and start enjoying the trip. i am a very experienced tripper mostly with mushrooms and LSD and have been able to pull myself back from the edge of a serious freak out many times. this situation only differs in that they seem to be genuine hallucinations as opposed to visual distortions because i am unable to say for certain whether they are real or not. reminds me of tripping on datura or dyphenhydramine when i was a lot younger except i am totally sober with only residual effects from the pipe/MDMA trip such as mild visuals (more than likely brought on by sleep deprivation which increase the longer i stay up) and slight jaw tension (most certainly caused by residual drug effects).
I will say, to calm some nerves my own included, that i am far from panicking and am mostly curious if these black dots (they are extremely small, several mm wide) are actually on my skin or if i am simply imagining it. I realize both are possible but if they are real mini-moles (thats what they look like, really small moles) what is the physical cause of this. can sleep deprivation in any way physically cause such things? i would have thought that sleep dep would be more likely the culprit in the instance that the "bugs" were not real and were indeed nothing more than the product of an over drugged, under sleeped brain with an out of control imaginenation. possibly the constant sweating caused by stimulant drugs combined with not showering while partying which must result in large amounts of greasy oil on the skin? adverse reaction to the pipe cocktail itself or it being combined with MDMA? also if the cause is physical, any way to treat it or prevent it from happening in the future other then simple answers like "dont do drugs" or "dont stay up for so long". anyone ever had an experience similar on other drugs besides the obvious extended binges on cocaine, crack, or methamphetamine? any similar experience with pipe cocktails mixed with any MDXX or with pipes by themselves? if so then which were the drugs combined, in what doses (measurements preferably if they are available and NO SLANG. "Iz cantz understandz uz". be realistic, not everyone knows what a "teener" or a "bundle" or even (god forbid) what a "dime" is. and words like "dime" or "nickel" will mean very different amounts of a drug in different areas of the world with vastly differing prices. for example if you ate some pills but do know how many milligrams, than say how many pills (obvious), how far apart the doses were taken, and any other relevant info such as set and setting. thanks
wow that was really long and i believe i have zoned out several times during writing it only to find stuff written that i dont recall writing. ive edited such things out because im sure it is already quite enough gibberish for most people to read. my arms have subsided in their strange behavior now and it even appears that many of the mini-moles are actually fading. I did have one that literally appeared to have crawled to the top of one of my arm hairs and i was able to grab it and when i opened my hand it was still there. this was a little disturbing but just crazy enough that i knew it must be an hallucination. sometimes its seeing something that is completely impossible or so insanely unbelieveable that brings you back. anyways if you read this all then im impressed and thank you for keeping with it. this was for me a very profound trip although i doubt that the piperazine tabs had much to do with that. as for my future MDMA consumption i will NEVER EVER buy pressed ecstacy tabs anymore due to their complete lack of credibility on the market, i will only buy molly or MDA and leave the pipes for the 16 year old ravers who dont know the difference. i know, its sad but true. thanks for reading.
oops i just looked at the thing in its totality and thought it might be more appropriate for trip reports. mods do as you wish
i can see how this would be a very unpleasant situation if one where heavily tweaked out or without sleep for many days or even weeks as the urge to tear every single one of the buggers away would be irresistible in that instance. as for me im more intrigued as ive never had this type of thing happen before where i wasnt sure if it was real or not, only excessive acid trips that made me see little bugs or mosquitos everywhere, in such i was still able to tell myself, despite not being able to see anything in my vision except little black bugs, that i was on a powerful hallucinogenic drug and that goes with the territory of extremely high doses of psychedelics, and finally and also most important that i will be sober in several hours and if i find something else interesting to do i will stop focusing on whatever is bothering me and start enjoying the trip. i am a very experienced tripper mostly with mushrooms and LSD and have been able to pull myself back from the edge of a serious freak out many times. this situation only differs in that they seem to be genuine hallucinations as opposed to visual distortions because i am unable to say for certain whether they are real or not. reminds me of tripping on datura or dyphenhydramine when i was a lot younger except i am totally sober with only residual effects from the pipe/MDMA trip such as mild visuals (more than likely brought on by sleep deprivation which increase the longer i stay up) and slight jaw tension (most certainly caused by residual drug effects).
I will say, to calm some nerves my own included, that i am far from panicking and am mostly curious if these black dots (they are extremely small, several mm wide) are actually on my skin or if i am simply imagining it. I realize both are possible but if they are real mini-moles (thats what they look like, really small moles) what is the physical cause of this. can sleep deprivation in any way physically cause such things? i would have thought that sleep dep would be more likely the culprit in the instance that the "bugs" were not real and were indeed nothing more than the product of an over drugged, under sleeped brain with an out of control imaginenation. possibly the constant sweating caused by stimulant drugs combined with not showering while partying which must result in large amounts of greasy oil on the skin? adverse reaction to the pipe cocktail itself or it being combined with MDMA? also if the cause is physical, any way to treat it or prevent it from happening in the future other then simple answers like "dont do drugs" or "dont stay up for so long". anyone ever had an experience similar on other drugs besides the obvious extended binges on cocaine, crack, or methamphetamine? any similar experience with pipe cocktails mixed with any MDXX or with pipes by themselves? if so then which were the drugs combined, in what doses (measurements preferably if they are available and NO SLANG. "Iz cantz understandz uz". be realistic, not everyone knows what a "teener" or a "bundle" or even (god forbid) what a "dime" is. and words like "dime" or "nickel" will mean very different amounts of a drug in different areas of the world with vastly differing prices. for example if you ate some pills but do know how many milligrams, than say how many pills (obvious), how far apart the doses were taken, and any other relevant info such as set and setting. thanks
wow that was really long and i believe i have zoned out several times during writing it only to find stuff written that i dont recall writing. ive edited such things out because im sure it is already quite enough gibberish for most people to read. my arms have subsided in their strange behavior now and it even appears that many of the mini-moles are actually fading. I did have one that literally appeared to have crawled to the top of one of my arm hairs and i was able to grab it and when i opened my hand it was still there. this was a little disturbing but just crazy enough that i knew it must be an hallucination. sometimes its seeing something that is completely impossible or so insanely unbelieveable that brings you back. anyways if you read this all then im impressed and thank you for keeping with it. this was for me a very profound trip although i doubt that the piperazine tabs had much to do with that. as for my future MDMA consumption i will NEVER EVER buy pressed ecstacy tabs anymore due to their complete lack of credibility on the market, i will only buy molly or MDA and leave the pipes for the 16 year old ravers who dont know the difference. i know, its sad but true. thanks for reading.
oops i just looked at the thing in its totality and thought it might be more appropriate for trip reports. mods do as you wish
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