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MDMA + Mesc HCl

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MagickalKat777

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Anyone mixed mescaline with MDMA (the stupid search engine isn't working for me)? I have about 10 doses of pure mescaline coming but I was wondering if this would be a good combo... I've heard people say that mescaline on its own is quite rolly... but I can't find much info on this particular combination.

One of the two is going to happen tomorrow - mescaline or MDMA... but both sounds like it could be interesting. Cactiflipping? LOL.

Who has experience with this, thoughts on dose, etc? And is it going to be really cardiostim? This MDMA doesn't stimulate my heart AT ALL - its crystal and its the cleanest shit I've ever had. 150mg put me into one of the most powerful rolls of my life...
 
Since its my first time I think I'm just gonna bomb 300mg...

I wonder if plugging would reduce the bodyload... Does mescaline even have much of a bodyload besides nausea? I mean nobody has ever died from it that I'm aware of so its cardiac effects must be quite low...
 
Matsuo Munefusa. said:
what has it been like a week since you lasted binged on monoamine releasers!? Yeah man you're TOTALLY good to go!!!!!!! BOMBS AWAY!!!!

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You know what? I know my limits. Yeah so what, I binged. Everyone has binged before and I'm sure everyone will binge again. Don't give me the high and mighty attitude. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to the thread, then get out. There is a difference between harm reduction and just being a jerk.
 
"I know my limits"

dude, this is the MOST classic addict line ever given :\ recognize yourself for what you have become with these types of drugs: an addict.

Clean yourself up and restrict your use or you will end up depressed and on strong medications just to get by and not kill yourself.

Its harsh but true my friend.
 
Matsuo Munefusa. said:
what has it been like a week since you lasted binged on monoamine releasers!? Yeah man you're TOTALLY good to go!!!!!!! BOMBS AWAY!!!!

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Matsuo Munefusa. said:
"I know my limits"

dude, this is the MOST classic addict line ever given :\ recognize yourself for what you have become with these types of drugs: an addict.

Clean yourself up and restrict your use or you will end up depressed and on strong medications just to get by and not kill yourself.

Its harsh but true my friend.
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Look, you don't know me. I've been down the path before. I know when to quit. I'm most likely not going to use the MDMA this weekend but rather a small dose of mescaline and I might not even do that since I tripped so damn hard on 4-HO-MET the other day.

I've been a long time BLer... you want to talk addiction ask anyone that knows me (like Xorkoth and Delsyd) just how much I've been "addicted" to and how often I abused things. I used so many psychs that 30mg of 2C-E was a ++.5 and 50mg of 5-MeO-AMT (yes I said 5-MeO) would be considered a "normal" dose for me.
 
hey man you're right I dont know you. I have observed your posts for years though and commented and shared information with you about the rare psychedelics we have come to know and love :)

I've also been down the road of addiction with methamphetamine and oxycontin in 2001-2003ish and a heroin habit in 2008. I know what its like is what Im tryin to say :\

I just see you obviously screaming out with your actions that you are an addict and do not know how to control yourself. I think you need somebody objective to say that to you. And here I am saying it to you. You got a problem my friend and I hope you figure it out.

no disrespect intended. My girlfriend (who is also a BLer) tells me I am too 'harsh' with my posts. Sorry about that if I came off harsh.

I hope you have a beautiful mescaline trip <3
 
No I know how to control myself. I understand where you're coming from - I was addicted to AMT, 5-MeO-AMT, and DXM... I never got into the meth or opiates so I don't know about that... but addiction is hell.

Really right now I'm just making the most of my time out of work. And believe it or not I've been using the MDMA for some therapeutic work (mainly, allowing myself to trust people again).
 
I was addicted to AMT, 5-MeO-AMT, and DXM... I never got into the meth or opiates so I don't know about that... but addiction is hell.
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I'm sorry, but "being addicted to psychs" cannot at all compare to meth or opiate addiction...just fyi, not trying to start anything. The psychedelics you mentioned are generally not considered addictive (maybe except DXM in some circumstances).

You really can't compare "wanting to do AMT every day" to waking up in physical withdrawals every morning and needing to procure heroin and spike it in your vein in order to feel somewhat normal. And wanting to die and HURTING until you get it in your brain. So if you think addiction's hell now, you better be glad you never got into meth or opiates.

ON THE SUBJECT, although I've never tried mesc, I would think it might be a nice mix (if safe). I would take the mesc at least 3 hours before the MDMA
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Anyone mixed mescaline with MDMA (the stupid search engine isn't working for me)? I have about 10 doses of pure mescaline coming but I was wondering if this would be a good combo... I've heard people say that mescaline on its own is quite rolly... but I can't find much info on this particular combination.

One of the two is going to happen tomorrow - mescaline or MDMA... but both sounds like it could be interesting. Cactiflipping? LOL.

Who has experience with this, thoughts on dose, etc? And is it going to be really cardiostim? This MDMA doesn't stimulate my heart AT ALL - its crystal and its the cleanest shit I've ever had. 150mg put me into one of the most powerful rolls of my life...
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i have done mdma with mescaline and shrooms, it was the most intense feeling of being rolling that i can ever remember. just remember the mdma (5-6hours) will be over four hours before the mescaline ends (10hours+) so maybe come up on mescaline and drop after you have been tripping for an hour or two, as the start of mescaline feels like a roll so that covers the waiting to drop period nicely
 
psilocybonaut said:
I'm sorry, but "being addicted to psychs" cannot at all compare to meth or opiate addiction...just fyi, not trying to start anything. The psychedelics you mentioned are generally not considered addictive (maybe except DXM in some circumstances).

You really can't compare "wanting to do AMT every day" to waking up in physical withdrawals every morning and needing to procure heroin and spike it in your vein in order to feel somewhat normal. And wanting to die and HURTING until you get it in your brain. So if you think addiction's hell now, you better be glad you never got into meth or opiates.

ON THE SUBJECT, although I've never tried mesc, I would think it might be a nice mix (if safe). I would take the mesc at least 3 hours before the MDMA
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Yeah well i have a benzo addiction so I believe I'm worse off than any other addiction since I never abused my meds and took them as prescribed yet if I ever stop I could seize and die...

And yeah I was thinking 4 or 5 into the mesc take the MDMA.
 
^ No need for these kind of conversations.

Sounds like an interesting combo but I would just take the mescaline if it is your first time. Maybe keep some of the MDMA and Mescaline for a few weeks then try it again once you have some experience with the Mescaline.

Happy tripping :).
 
MagickalKat, it may seem harsh, but people are genuinely concerned about you. Didn't you almost lose your job last week because of impulsive dosing of mephedrone and methylone?

It only took me a few minutes to round up a few of your recent posts.

MagickalKat777 said:
Well I went on a 30 hour methylone binge recently ... I'm not particularly concerned about going on a 1g MDMA binge... though I HIGHLY doubt I could consume that much in a night.
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MagickalKat777 said:
As for 4G [of MDMA], there was 5G to start with on Tuesday... and 0 as of last night. I know I probably used 3, he used around 2... we stopped weighing out our doses though when my scale started going all over the place... most ridiculous thing I've ever seen... so we just started railing huge amounts. In the 26 hours, I probably did 1.9-2g and he did around 1.75-1.9 himself... The next night I got drunk and had an emotional upset and bombed god knows how much - probably 400-500mg... Passed out drunk shortly after and woke up 7 hours later to the peak of the roll...
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MagickalKat777 said:
And yeah I know my usage has never been good. I'm going to work on that. I'm in hell right now. These zaps fucking suck and I get nauseous and paralyzing zaps every night.
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MagickalKat777 said:
Yeah... tell me about it... 4g of MDMA in a few days... and I'm still crashing (brain zaps, depression, insomnia, sensitivity to light, headache) and it will be a week tomorrow...
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MagickalKat777 said:
It is nice to finally be on the mend from my molly bender. Geez when you haven't done MDMA in a long time you tend to forget just how nasty she really can be... I've had brain zaps that have been so bad they paralyze me to the point I can't move or breathe for the last few days.
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I can't in good conscience let you continue this pattern without at least expressing concern about your mental and physical health.
 
Sorry, I get grumpy when people say that ____ addiction is so much worse than ____ - they all fucking suck and have nasty consequences.

Yeah I really think I'm just going to do the Mesc...
 
I was gonna say just take the mesc, but after reading what dondante dreged up ,how about you lay off the drugs, or are you seriously that uncomfortable in your own skin that you cannot let a Saturday pass in sobriety?
 
Dondante said:
MagickalKat, it may seem harsh, but people are genuinely concerned about you. Didn't you almost lose your job last week because of impulsive dosing of mephedrone and methylone?
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I actually went back on short term and for entirely different reasons.

I appreciate the concern but really, I'm fine. I'm a trooper. Always have been. Unfortunately, my benzodiazepines have not been working right and I've been supplementing euphoriants in their place. That has been fixed now that I'm on 60mg of Valium a day.
 
I just want you to take a good honest look at your current pattern of drug use. It's self-destructive, and you seem to be aware of that, but you also seem to conveniently forget that fact whenever the opportunity presents itself. Give yourself some time to recover and find some other sources of fulfillment...try to find things that you enjoy doing that don't result in depleted neurotransmitters and extended hangovers.

FYI, empathogen/stimulant abuse reliably leads to increased anxiety in my experience.
 
Dondante, I know this. I make sure to get my monoamines back up every time I drain them. 5-HTP, multi-vitamins, L-tyrosine, L-glutamine...

Here's the deal. I hadn't done a hallucinogen since 2006... I hadn't rolled since 2008... now I'm on probation for something I didn't even do, my adrenal system is fried, and when I roll, I do energy work to try to repair the extreme damage that has been done by my various meds I've been on.
 
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