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AbsintheKittie

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I have some interests in what I posted in the title, CandyFlipping / Trolling what ever you wish to call it , I have heard both terms used. While I have experience with both substances on their own.. I have never mixed them with anything else.

I would like to know, how it changes the experience over all?

Are there any added concerns or things to watch out for?

What is the best time to drop the acid portion of the candyflipping?

Are there are recommended doses?
(three of us are planning on this.. Male 6' 205lbs, Male 5'6" 200lbs (high tolerance to all substances tried OTC and non) and a Female 5'8" 190lbs (also high Tolerance to all substances) I know the MDMA does would be about 100 /150 ish give or take a bit, but not sure what the best acid dose would be)

At least one party has never done acid and was wondering if it would be best to try it on its own first or not?
(I read that the MDMA makes for a better, Happy trip then ever doing it on its own...True false? )


Would just love some information as I looked thru the forum and poked around online but did not find much other then a small comment here and there..
 
Id call it just taking MDMA and LSD, I think thats what you are getting at right...? Is that what you mean when you say Trolling lol?? or Candyflipping?

Anyway a simple google search would have brought you up some results from previous trip reports from erwoid, here let me help you type things into google.

havent noticed any liturature concerning the interaction of LSD and MDMA. What is there affect on one another when taken together.
A: The individual effects of LSD and MDMA are definitely altered when taken together. Very little is known about the pharmacology (the interaction between the chemical and your neurochemistry) of this combination, but as you'd expect, the resulting trip (called "candy-flipping") is a combination of the effects of each substance alone. The high is generally higher than that reached by a standard dose of either LSD or MDMA alone. The talkative, open, friendly experience most common with MDMA is still there, but with the visuals and 'trippier' experience of LSD mixed in.



Dosages for each are usually lowered when used in combination as they synergize with each other...pushing in the same direction. People also report that the hangover the next day is somewhat worse than that of MDMA used alone. For a sense of the experience, read the candy-flipping trip reports under MDMA Combinations in the Experience Vaults.
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Experiences / Trip Reports.

http://www.erowid.org/archive/psychonaut/mdma/mdma6.htm
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=91918
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=18225


You say you have used both MDMA and LSD on there own so you know the come up times of both substances, the person trying Acid who has never done it before may want to try and do it on its own so he knows what its like maybe before mixing it with other drugs, maybe he could start with a lower MDMA dose than everyone else.
 
Thank you for the links even if you are a bit snarky.. I did Google it..I really did not get much of anything but a ton of post that read "oh hell yeah" "Fire dude, fire" and none of that helped.. I checked on a few other sites that I know of and searched them (as not all boards come up in google searches) and even there I found very little as I posted in the first post.
 
Some people just prefer the attention from there post, more so than gathering the essential information that they need.
 
WOW all I can say is WOW..
I asked legitimate and I get shit for it..
MY MISTAKE for not adding a space and for thinking people might be cool here about stuff.. But hey your right be nasty to someone for trying to understand something..
 
@Clocktower Thank you, none the less there seems to be a lot of info there more then when i searched my self.. Did you search the whole site? I think what I did was only search the Ecstasy forum and that was my flaw....
 
Youd be better asking in psychedlic forum
As most ppl there know about mdma
Not many here know about acid

There is actually a "big and dandy thread" all about it
 
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High tolerance to all substances?

I somehow don't think so.

Anyway, you want to be feeling happy on the MDMa before dropping your acid. The idea is that the MDMA will put you in a good mindset (unless your one of these folk with anxiety issues or generally freak out on drugs) then let the acid work its magic. Your suggested dosage for the MDMA is around the recommended dose so "should" be ok.

I personally think it is easier to take acid on MDMA than just acid on its own for the above reason.

Good luck and happy googling. (Sorry, forgot you don't do that :p )
 
AbsintheKittie said:
WOW all I can say is WOW..
I asked legitimate and I get shit for it..
MY MISTAKE for not adding a space and for thinking people might be cool here about stuff.. But hey your right be nasty to someone for trying to understand something..
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5 minutes using google would have found you all the information you needed to know.
 
Oddly enough there are two search bars in the top-left of Bluelight pages. In my experience the top one, which says "Bluelight Google Search," is more effective.

Edit: Don't take that little bit of backlash too personally. Though you may have had the best of intentions, we've seen these questions several times before and that tends to set people off. Myself included.
 
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I like to drop my MDMA once the LSD is about to peak. I felt the threshold of the MDMA effects went up, but I can only say that out of personal experience and it may not apply for everybody.

The main thing to remain vigiliant of is forgetting how much MDMA you have taken. I would take a line and a bomb and then rack up ready for the next one, but you lose all track of time. Did I eat that 5 minutes ago or an hour ago? See my point? Divide all your MDMA into doses first and then you know how much you should have at all times.
 
Thank you for the great information and sharing guys!

@StrutterGear - Thank you, that is very helpful.. It allows me to plan better and tells me setting some sort of alarm to help track time for dose ect.. >^..^<

@ Clocktower - Thank you.. I had only used the inform one and that did not yield all that could have been found. I did read all the threads you sent and sadly still did not find all the information I was seeking..But still helpful. :)

@swedger77 - Thank you for your feed back ---- Tho I must say and this is part of my issue and WHY I asked it is contradictory to what others have posted. I do understand that it is really a personal preference, as are a great many things in this world, but I was hoping to get an AVG. best way to go with it. I do totally get what you are saying about the anxiety and how MDMA will allow for the come up of the acid to be easy and less "pow" in your face. Also, I said a high tolerance to all things that I have tried. I'm not being a smart ass or trying to claim that I am super woman. I am making a statement that everything that I have tried to date I have needed a larger dose then "normal" .. I am sorry if I was unclear with that. I have not and will not try a lot of substance like Heroin, crack, Meth and even Coke for that matter.

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On another note, about the Backlash -

**** I THOUGHT the whole point of BL is Harm reduction and to help others.. There are NO other active threads in the MDMA form on the subject of candyflipping. YET, there are TONS that repeat them selves over and over and no one is nasty to them. Even all the links that were in the 2nd more helpful post where pretty old. The links in the first reply post were of NO help it was just stories of people saying what a great time they had.. I asked very detailed questions with the goal of Harm Reduction.

You guy have no idea who I am. I could be a dumb 15 year old kid, a 55 year old grandparent or anything in between. Maybe I am super internet savvy and maybe I have only used the internet a few times in my life. The point I am trying to make is that no matter how many times you have or have not seen a question. There is no reason to be rude to someone. If I was that 15 year old kid I would be very put off and maybe never ask for help again and end up dead for doing something dumb.

The same things could have been said and pointed out with out being rude. Simply "BTW what you seen these links" or " Did you try searching with a space in it" or may be.. "I see your new here, did you know you can use the google search at the top of the page that will yield more items then the search that you said that you already did"

AND BTW even after reading ALL of the post, while I did find some valuable information, I did not find all the answers to my questions.. Maybe Gymstud was right and I should have asked the other group on the Phsy forum.

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I'm not a troll, I'm not trying to start shit... I am just a 33 year old female whom does not have anyone else to turn to with questions. I have a very few close friends, know TONS of people but none that I could turn to for this other then the basic , " Its " Epic " kind of reply's. I legitimately want(ed )/ need(ed) to know what I asked.. I LOVE the people that I am planing to take this "trip" with and would never want to harm them in any way or form. This is why I asked my questions and took offense to being treated like I am trash for not being able to locate the information that you did. My goal was / is Harm Reduction and to maximize our time together in the very best way I could.

I turned to this forum for help and for the most part feel rather put off.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT.. If everyone knew everything and was 100% perfect at it all the time.. No one would need or want a form like this.
 
Well, what exactly do you want to know lol?


It's like rolling with a lot of visuals, or tripping with a lot of empathy. It's really pretty straight forward :\




Dosing times are the hardest to get right though, the LSD first and the MDMA right before you're at the peak (so 2 or so hours in) seems to work the best for most people. If you take the MDMA first it's an easy transition to the LSD trip, but the comedown from the MDMA is made 10 times worse by the acid. Both at the same time is OK, but the MDMA wears out faster than the LSD and the last few hours are find of disappointing and like I said, the comedown is quite a bit worse as the LSD will make you analyze it a lot haha

I love to drop the acid, smoke LOTS of weed for a few hours then take the MDMA when I best feel up to it an hour or two in. Remember it takes a good half an hour at least to kick in, so take it a bit ahead of time to counteract that. If you do it right the highs synchronize AMAZINGLY. The MDMA takes away the anxiety of the LSD and the acid makes the ecstasy soooo much better. I usually re-dose on the MDMA one time an hour after that, and the LSD and MDMA seem to comedown at the same time rather gently and I can go to sleep soon after...


I would never take MDMA without combining it with a psychedelic these days, after you've done it, going back to MDMA alone seems boring ;)
 
I have really only candy flipped 2 or 3 times atthe most. I never thought rolling without LSD was boring by any means after I tried them together.

I hate LSD with a passion. I would never take it again. It make me want to pull my skin off with pliers. LSD and me are not friends. I have had strong trips. I have had weak trips. it ws fun the first few times, after that it was hell. a bad trip everytime, no matter how much I took or what setting I was in.

That being said...the only way I would think of trying LSD again is combining with MDMA. candy flipping turns a chaotic LSD trip into a lovely experience. I can't see anyway it could go bad. I have never heard of anyone havin a bad LSD trip wile on MDMA.
 
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I have really only candy flipped 2 or 3 times atthe most. I never thought rolling without LSD was boring by any means after I tried them together.

I hate LSD with a passion. I would never take it again.
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Well there's your problem haha, but yeah LSD really just doesn't suit some people well. Add MDMA into it though, and suddenly all those cares and troubles melt into euphoria and love :D



haha I mean, shit. I can still roll without LSD and have an AMAZING time, but it feels like something is missing, you know? For myself, I really need another drug to bump up the visuals and the MDMA to add the love/empathy. That's what makes the perfect night for me :D
 
I can see where you are coming from. MDMA was never visual for me. sure things looked awsome but I never really got light shows and all that crap..I was always like "I feel great...I wish this dude would stop waving his glow sticks in my face"

MDMA with LSD was like MDMA in HD though...vivid and pleasant visuals...non for the horror that LSD normally thought I needed to see.
 
Personally I love this combination, and take the mdma 90 minutes or so after the lsd.
Make absolutely certain that the chemicals you're going to take are genuine; the thought of lsd with pipes is scary, ...nbome with pipes even worse
 
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