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MDMA like effects from other substances

Jakeperson said:
I'm a designer drug kinda guy. Acid and Shrooms are all well and good but there's something that draws my to 2C's. B being my favourite.

I used to be into psychs for the spiritual side and even MDMA some what, I think whatever they can teach me however I have already learned or missed. But you never stop learning so it's a good excuse to keep trying them :D
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Don't know if it's been mentioned but designer drugs are simply drugs that were chemically different to a drug (say MDMA) but had same/similar feelings. This was before analogue laws came in so these "designer drugs" could actually be legal but give the feelings of classified illegal drugs like MDMA.

Not 100% sure if you are on or off that meaning but always pedantic me likes to give out information where there MAY be misinformation happening and/or being spread. Once again, I'm not saying you're definitely wrong in your thoughts of designer drugs, just wanted to clarify what they were for people reading =D

2CB is a designer drug coined as research chem due to the (original at least) non-widespread lengthy consumption so people don't know long term affects (or low to high use) :)

*edit* Oh, some reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designer_drug
 
my brain hurts said:
Well he is snorting 2C-T-7 so i wouldn't go that far.
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Years and years ago when I was really drunk.

my brain hurts said:
2C-B is definately the easiest to manage 2C-*, with that said in high doses it can certainly humble you. I found 2C-T-7 to be quite similar to B in the sense that i wasn't getting as many visuals as i would of 2C-E or 2C-I but it had a much more psychadelic body feeling. 2C-I has more visual distortions than B and seemed to rely on mindset unlike B which i finds puts you in a good mood (like mdma). For this reason i found 2C-I to be slightly darker. 2C-E was as previously described, a lot more psychadelic. I find that with 2C-B/I/T-7/C i can sober myself up if i need to deal with something important, with 2C-E it was not like that at all.
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I agree with you on most of that except I found I to have much less visual distortion than 2C-B, tried by itself with meth (yuck) and with LSD (one of the best trips of my life) all at 20-22mg. Going to try it by itself at a different dose and then with LSD again.

2-C-T-7 I didn't find it to be overly visual but did have a very psych feeling body high and mind trip at times but there was no way I could have come close to being sober any time I tried it. What doses did you try T-7? I'm pretty sure most of mine were at 25-27mg, probably my second favourite PEA after 2CB.
 
Thanks for that wazza!

To me I just meant any drug that isn't your standard drugs that every body knows about. You know the ones in that stupid booklet that gets put in your mailbox every year with a bunch of drugs in at and their supposed effects.
 
Jakeperson said:
Years and years ago when I was really drunk.



I agree with you on most of that except I found I to have much less visual distortion than 2C-B, tried by itself with meth (yuck) and with LSD (one of the best trips of my life) all at 20-22mg. Going to try it by itself at a different dose and then with LSD again.

2-C-T-7 I didn't find it to be overly visual but did have a very psych feeling body high and mind trip at times but there was no way I could have come close to being sober any time I tried it. What doses did you try T-7? I'm pretty sure most of mine were at 25-27mg, probably my second favourite PEA after 2CB.
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30-35mg with 15-18mg booster maybe 4 hours in. I didn't get any notable visual distortion and neither did anyone i was with except one dude. Everyone else reported the same, heavy psychadelic body load, minimal visuals and fairly leveled head space. With 2C-I everything seemed to breath and be shinier. With B it breathed and became warmer.

I find all 2C-x's easy to pull myself out of. With the 2C-T-7 i was tripping hard all night and into the next day, when i relaxed i remembered how fucked up i was, but talking to people and going to the shops to buy a fuckin $27 six pack of jimmys was easy. I find them easy to put on the backseat for a while.

I would issue a recommendation of care when dealing with LSD and 2C-x. The most profound trip of my life has been due to a couple tabs of quality acid and eyeballing 2C-B out the bag to what we worked out to be around 50mg each (aiming for 20mg). I have found that when eating 2C-anything on acid that you don't get the easy going qualities of the 2C but instead a balls to the floor acid trip for the duration of the 2C. Good times.
 
my brain hurts said:
I have found that when eating 2C-anything on acid that you don't get the easy going qualities of the 2C but instead a balls to the floor acid trip for the duration of the 2C. Good times.
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LOL....nice description :D


I've always found the 2c-x's to be much more psychedelic than MDMA. of course. more along the lines of acid & shrooms - in fact I'd say that piperazines and mephedrone are more like MDMA than anything from the 2c family tree... but who wants to go frying their noggen with either of those :p
 
my brain hurts said:
30-35mg with 15-18mg booster maybe 4 hours in. I didn't get any notable visual distortion and neither did anyone i was with except one dude. Everyone else reported the same, heavy psychadelic body load, minimal visuals and fairly leveled head space. With 2C-I everything seemed to breath and be shinier. With B it breathed and became warmer.

I find all 2C-x's easy to pull myself out of. With the 2C-T-7 i was tripping hard all night and into the next day, when i relaxed i remembered how fucked up i was, but talking to people and going to the shops to buy a fuckin $27 six pack of jimmys was easy. I find them easy to put on the backseat for a while.

I would issue a recommendation of care when dealing with LSD and 2C-x. The most profound trip of my life has been due to a couple tabs of quality acid and eyeballing 2C-B out the bag to what we worked out to be around 50mg each (aiming for 20mg). I have found that when eating 2C-anything on acid that you don't get the easy going qualities of the 2C but instead a balls to the floor acid trip for the duration of the 2C. Good times.
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Every one is different I guess. That's really strange though, I get visual distortion from B at 16mg, though not much. How pure was it?

Yeah PEA's and acid or shrooms combos are only for experienced trippers, best fun though IMO, Acid and 2C-I created an MDMA like amazement at every thing for about an hour. That would be my closest psych experience to MDMA.

hyroller said:
LOL....nice description :D


I've always found the 2c-x's to be much more psychedelic than MDMA. of course. more along the lines of acid & shrooms - in fact I'd say that piperazines and mephedrone are more like MDMA than anything from the 2c family tree... but who wants to go frying their noggen with either of those :p
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I'll fry my noggen with Meph any day.
 
I'm in Melbourne and trust me if i could hook up some molly i'd be all over it. There would be no problem!

Reading about psychedelics + speed combo is making me a lot less confident about it. I might have to just take one or the other. Although i've never been a fan of speed and never understood why people would choose it over MDMA. I'll still give the combo a go but keep the doses of each very low. If things get out of order, i'll have keep some glue handy. You know, to take the edge off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqunUVyxwU
 
well it seems that 2C-B has synergism with acid as well as MDMA. Well from what i'm hearing hear.
Amphetamines and Acid isn't anything as powerful as the MD + acid combo = candyflip. I don't think(meth)ampetamines and acid syergise that well acctually.

doing it(Cid) with 2C-b is something i'm interested in after reading this thread because i had used it with and was underwhelmed

@Doctor Robert, I don't think anyone has suggested except me, but read my post about the candyflip... you'll love it, everything is pristine and shimmers with vibrant gloss and the morphing and melding you see on OEV with the acid. I guarantee you'd fucking love it...whatever environment or circumstance you take it it... as long as it is relatively a positive one i mean.

MDMA takes all the inhibitions or anxiety one might get with acid and more, you can feel them working together that makes you feel superhuman and in touch with everything including the most subtle emotion to a feeling of pure awe from a significant occurrence during the ride... thats my opinion anyway and i've had good good results and good consequence
 
I'd definitely try candyflipping... if i had some MDMA... I wouldn't bother with Speed/LSD combo if i did.
 
Guys n gals... no shit candyflipping (LSD + MDMA) kicks the arse of LSD + (meth)amphetamines... I mean, of course. Psychedelics and MDMA synergise beautifully in most cases, while LSD + (meth)amphetamines is much more sketchy, but can work. Though even when it works, it has nothing on a candyflip... NOTHING!

Sorry I'm just saying this because the OP is asking about mixing acid and speed and the thread seems to have de-railed significantly.
 
puckboy said:
Guys n gals... no shit candyflipping (LSD + MDMA) kicks the arse of LSD + (meth)amphetamines... I mean, of course. Psychedelics and MDMA synergise beautifully in most cases, while LSD + (meth)amphetamines is much more sketchy, but can work. Though even when it works, it has nothing on a candyflip... NOTHING!

Sorry I'm just saying this because the OP is asking about mixing acid and speed and the thread seems to have de-railed significantly.
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cheers mate;)
 
Whats everyones opinon on hippy flipping (Mushies and MDMA)

I'm thinking about doing this soon with MDA pills but would most certainly try it with MDMA if I had some miss molly.

I've heard it's quite enjoyable provided in the right scene and I think it would be something I'd enjoy quite alot, also I have some high quality speed at the moment would combo-ing this in aswell be worthwhile or would it be more likely to make me sick. My guess would be I'd love it but be mega scattered for the next couple of days.
 
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Off-topic: Personally I prefer hippyflipping to candyflipping. Theres something about mushrooms and MDMA that just causes them to amplify each other so much I become so incredibly euphoric it's just beyond bliss, and very psychedelic! I felt like I truly understood the meaning of the word 'psychedelic' the first time I hippyflipped at a doof. I love candyflipping too, don't get me wrong.
 
candy flipping one i havent tried, i have had luck on the combination of meth and lsd but as most people know this can be risky, heck when i had it i wasnt aware of the dangers.
was wondering what people would sAy on the combination of DOi + mDmA?? quite common in adelaide the DOi so i wonder if anyone has done it??
 
decent mephedrone and alcohol. DMT afterglow made me feel fucking amazing
 
I find methylone can equal MDMA; it's the most similar in my opinion. I snorted a big line of that my first time thinking it was mephedrone, that was very noice ;).

IMO nothing else really has MDMA effects, but mephedrone and ice can be a pretty beautiful combo; same with a nice dose of codeine or g coming down off meth.

4 MAR is just bliss and my favourite combo will always be my speedy k ;)
 
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