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MDMA Induced depression UK

There is a big difference between doing 250mg MDMA in a night and doing 500+ in a night IMO in terms of how you'll feel afterwards. Lucky for me these days I use it about 2-3 times a year and don't redose much.
 
In my experience, most moderate-to-heavy ecstasy users will experience lasting depression at least once. Many of them are shells of their former selves, and spend their late twenties and early thirties looking to pull their chaotic lives together. A heavy price to pay for sweating and gurning, don't you think?
 
the people who don't overdo it in general don't drem to have problems as much. Some people will get depressed without ever trying drugs anyway...
 
Yes, but many who may not otherwise have become depressed do so because they've used ecstasy.
 
How can you actually prove that it's from ecstasy? Or that it's not from over use of the drug?
 
An awful lot of users in the 90's mixed with massive doses of Amphetamine Sulphate which at that point in time was highly pure at the street level.
Mixing the two at large doses every weekend for years on end is like sticking a neurotoxic dick squarely into your brain and having it ejaculate on your hippocampus and prefrontal cortex.
 
I can definitely vouch for MDMA 'depression' being a thing, but in my opinion it gets easier to deal with the longer you have used MDMA. I did circa 500mg total of MD last wednesday after a break of about 2 months. I would say I have deffo been more emotional since that night, but I don't seem to notice it as much anymore as I sort of come to expect it. If I feel any sadness or anxiety the week after MDMA, I just remind myself it's because of the MD as a couple more days I'm back to normal.

I find keeping this in mind actually helps get rid of suicide tuesday almost entirely. That and around 200mg 5 HTP a day for 3 days afterwards. Sure you may get a bit teary over certain songs (or TV adverts) for a few days after, but knowing the reason behind it helps a lot. Also, the longer the break between MD uses, the more noticable the crash seems to be. Probably because your 5HT levels have further to fall....
 
It's not just the SE depletion responsible for the emotional effects, MDMA also releases a massive amount of Dopamine which compounds the impact because it induces an anhedonic state on top of the dysregulation from shagging SERT with chemistry.
 
Sprout said:
An awful lot of users in the 90's mixed with massive doses of Amphetamine Sulphate which at that point in time was highly pure at the street level.
Mixing the two at large doses every weekend for years on end is like sticking a neurotoxic dick squarely into your brain and having it ejaculate on your hippocampus and prefrontal cortex.
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This.

I was raving in the 90's and it wasn't until the 2000's when pure MDMA hit the scene that I noticed the difference. Found out then that I had been partly doing speed for all those raving years. Though I wasn't a weekly user.

Still, even with using pure MDMA later on, I still suffered mental health problems. I'm prone to depression though so who knows.

I've noticed that if life is awesome then the MDMA come down isn't as bad. If life is bleak then mixing that with post-MDMA anhedonia will be hell.
 
I believe that many of the problems stem from ecstasy use in Britain and Ireland being the preserve of a less-educated demographic. Certainly the culture around the drug (the repetitive music, the sportswear, the crude language - 'mongy', 'top one', 'mullered' etc.) and its status as an extension and adjunct of the lager culture and the surrounding machismo leads to problematic (ab)use being more prevalent. Often, this is compounded by the taboo surrounding depression in the users' culture, making all the ingredients for a perfect storm.
 
If the problems stem from a lack of education, by your own admission, then education on harm reduction can solve the issues.
 
Education on the virtues of abstinence, yes. The ecstasy 'culture' is a toxic pacifying agent of hegemony, along with the rap music. Both are the enemies of revolution.
 
My armchair used to go up to 55 revolutions per minute.
That's when I was still young and needed the chaos.
Now I'm old and need the chaos.
 
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