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MDMA in the USA (Molly) next verse

Got a question: With so much bad molly going around now, are pressed pills starting to get better in quality?
 
Damn those chicago mints sounds tasty... back in the early 2000s we used to get these pink solid presses which I am sure were produced around the area. Obviously who ever was pressing them had an old press machine and it was a one or two man operation.
 
phactor said:
Got a question: With so much bad molly going around now, are pressed pills starting to get better in quality?
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Yes there is a lot that get to the USA from the UK, They take pride in presses over there and they get here via obvious methods. So they are around just not by the masses I guess you would say, some people will take in a couple thousand here and there per city every week or two ya just need to find the right person.

I know there are still legit mints coming from chicago i believe something happened that slowed / weekend the operation.
 
EarthBounded said:
Yes there is a lot that get to the USA from the UK, They take pride in presses over there and they get here via obvious methods. So they are around just not by the masses I guess you would say, some people will take in a couple thousand here and there per city every week or two ya just need to find the right person.

I know there are still legit mints coming from chicago i believe something happened that slowed / weekend the operation.
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Pretty sure I know those methods. As for taking pride in the presses.. you are correct for the most part. I went to school over in London for awhile years ago.

Also, people used to link up at Dead/Phish shows and do similar things.
 
I'm not entirely sure that the situation with pills is necessarily any better than molly at the moment. They've been selling PMA as Ecstasy in the UK lately and it's caused a dozen or so deaths. But it does seem that the Europeans are pushing out better product as far as pills go, and Canadians may be pushing out the better molly. The scene itself is practically entirely ran by East Asian gangs, Vietnamese particularly. I'm not positive but I believe the source of the pills I am currently seeing are a smaller American outfit. My source claims they are a new group forming from the ashes of an old one, and to quote him "this is just the beginning". He is pretty 'in the know' about these sorts of things so I have no reason not to believe him.

Anyways they must be MDMA. I dropped one and I would have to estimate they are at the 100mg range. 2-2 1/2 might be my preferred level. Not as good as the pills with the "?" on them that we were seeing a few months ago. Oh and I forgot to mention they are extremely crumbly. I got 100 and about 20 of them fell apart transporting them home. Much more cracked and crumbly than any I've seen.

These are the white ones I'm speaking of. I didn't grab the red or green ones as I didn't test them but I assume they are similar.
 
At least in certain circles...extremely clean MDMA in New York City. Textbook results on the tests. Likewise there is some real junk in the city too. So it is a mixed bag.
 
^I'm in NYC...have had some of the extremely clean textbook test result crystals...I do find that it lacks potency though...your thoughts?
 
With me at least pure MDMA tends be "cruisy" and provide empathy. I find its related cousins to often feel more potent in other ways. MDA around here does feel more intense for me for the same given dose. More energy and visuals. Of course each person is different.
 
Yea I mean the cleanest mdma I've had recenlty in nyc was extremely clean but didn't have the bite that stronger potency mdma has...ie I had some eye wiggles but earthquake eye wiggles no and jaw shaking/shivering no...just doesn't have the intensity...empathy yes...suprisingly did have slight afteglow next day but boy did I pay for that quality...stupid expensive
 
Update:

Friend got something new for me to test...looked identical to usual stuff going around...maybe little whiter. BUT, when tested with marquis, fizzed/bubbled and whole puddle when straight to dark purple/black...key difference from 99.9% of whats going around being that the whole puddle was a thick dark purple. We actually gasped when we saw the reaction.

Anyway, I took everything friend had left which all of about 4 200mg caps. Let me say...this was by far the best mdma I've had in MANY years...my faith that it exists is somewhat restored. I have an INSANE tolerance but that first cap slapped me right in the face and my girl puked off it. I had eye wiggles and lots of euphoria. Took another 100mg about hour and half later and jaw was shaking...fucking heaven! This shit was undoubtedly 100% pure...comedown was a pleasure.

Now the frustrating part...went back to try to get more and dickhead tried to pass off the usual stuff going around as the pure shit...marquis bubbled and went to purple black but was not same reaction...not thick...not instant...not even close to same to the experienced tester...ugh!!!!

This most be the most frustrating drug of choice on earth!
 
georgewc2001 said:
Now the frustrating part...went back to try to get more and dickhead tried to pass off the usual stuff going around as the pure shit...marquis bubbled and went to purple black but was not same reaction...not thick...not instant...not even close to same to the experienced tester...ugh!!!!
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I would refrain from calling anyone a dick head who is selling molly that tests purple/black, there was a recent analysis done that showed about 85% of the molly in the USA is NOT MDMA ( or europe, or world? I forget exactly but it is a good starting point for everyone). So if a Marquis test actually shows it is MDMA regardless of how it reacts your guy is already proving himself to be good people.

If you know the right guy chances are he is on a steady line that distributes commercial MDMA that comes in at a good price and there is always alot, now these guys always get little chunks of fire amber and sass that they will usually sell at a much higher price ( I am referring to ounces not caps ) cap dealers usually keep there price consistently high.

I would guess there are one or two gigantic chemist that make that " usual " stuff you are referring to, distributed widely around the world. Then the luxury items like you are referring to in your post ( the ones you got 4 caps of 200mg ) is most likely made by smaller chemist whos focus is quality not qty. However in todays world anyone who can spin a batch that tests black / purple is fine in my book.

georgewc2001 said:
This shit was undoubtedly 100% pure...
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Edit: "that shit was undoubtedly 84% pure"
 
Yes...i'm aware 84% is the more accurate statement but assumed I'd get more responses wondering what the fuck that meant.

And, no your wrong, I'm not going to get into details but passing off chopped up crap is a DICKHEAD thing to do...period.

I know very well where most of this is coming from as I'm not buying from retailers...I'm not going to say more than that for obvious reasons.
 
Well, me and a friend just moved into Chicago and can't seem to find a connect. We've been going out and stuff, but we can't seem to find a crowd into that sort of thing.Last night, we bought "molly" that looked more like coke, so we were like "whatever, we'll do some lines", and then OH GOD THE PAIN. And not much of a high. God, I hate getting ripped off. Hope something comes along soon, cause this is frustrating.
 
^ shit if you're in Chi town it's mints or nothing, IMO. I wouldn't even bother with anything else.

georgewc2001 said:
Yes...i'm aware 84% is the more accurate statement
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No it's not... holy fuck, how many times does this have to be said? MDMA.HCl can be 100% pure. End of discussion, nothing else is even remotely relevant. I would think that Earthbounded would know better by now :|
 
^I was going to make a comment about that 84% stuff but decided not to start yet another argument.. And yea if you're in the chi you should be getting mints, its probably the only place in the country that's pumping out great presses reliably and has been for years now. It doesn't get much better then mints, I was eating tons of those around 2010-2011, not in the area anymore so I'm not really up to date on the current ones there putting out but I remember green dots, pink equals, green bowling balls, blue blanks, the list goes on...
 
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^Ok guys, I'm not a chemist. However, I saw a show with a Dutch chemist who made a large portion of the mdma in Holland during the 90s (ie he knows what the fuck he's talking about) and he said very clearly that mdma can only be as much as 84% pure soooo....
 
Sounds like BS all around. It can be 84% pure of the base, but no one doses MDMA base. Ever, at anytime. So even mentioning it is completely pointless and distracts from the truth. If your MDMA is 84% pure, than someone cut it down 15%.


All doses for MDMA are listed in the HCl form, which is pure as long as there are no added adulterants. In Holland some of the testing centers say they list the doses in the base form, but that's only for lab testing that US MDMA would never see so it's completely irrelevant.





In other news, I should be getting a few batches of MDMA tomorrow and will be trying them all out. I've got high hopes for quality crystal!
 
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