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thabart

thabart

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So last night was fun. I took half a blue defqon, t+2h took the other half and it blew my mind. At t+3h i decided to take 2,5ml of GHB, because i read quite a few reports claiming those drugs go really well together. now the MDMA high was fantastic and i believe the GHB also had something nice about it but my stomach suddenly started hurting. It was a feeling like being really stuffed after a heavy meal. Although i was on empty stomach for over 10h at that point. that feeling was really unpleasant, but tolerable. I didnt throw up or pass out or anything. i did sit down once in a while though to get some fresh air and to calm my stomach down. Around 2h later it started feeling fine again and i started coming down. now is this a common sideeffect of GHB or am i just being sensitive? should i give a different dosage another try? im almost compelled to throw the remainder away, but then again i heard so many good things about it especially here on bluelight. so who got some advice?
 
I am not a great expert with GHB but you might want to measure the PH level of the liquid.

If it is very Acid that might be why your stomach turns.

Was it a feeling similiar to if you say drink too much apple juice?

Did the high improve in anyway? or did this stomach issue destroy everything else?
 
I would check the pH of the GHB as futura stated, it should be 7-8.

GHB + MDMA is awesome, but the combo is best when the GHB is taken to begin with, say an hour before the MDMA. Be careful as it will Hit you Hard.
 
Unlike ^^ I prefer GHB at the end of the roll. I've never heard of a stomach pain reaction though.
Vomiting after GHB is not unusual with high doses, which is one of the reasons why GHB can be dangerous.
Indeed GHB should be slightly basic = pH above 7
 
^^ As its an acid I would be surprised if its +7

Regardless of if acid or alkaline the OP should use the relevant drinkable liquid to neutralise the GHB. Any drink with an acid or alkaline content would do to counteract the measured PH.

Aiming for 7 would ideally illiminate the barfing during the come up.
 
GHB (gamma-hydroxy butyric acid) is most often taken as its sodium salt (sodium gamma-hydroxy butyrate). The sodium salt is a weak base, but in the stomach it will get protonated again by the HCl and be back to the acid form.

I've taken GBL while rolling a couple times, late in the roll. For the most part I've liked it a lot, but it took a couple tries to get the dose right. The first couple of times I did a bit too much GBL and was kind of nodding out, which is not what I am going for when I roll. Once I toned the dose down to the right point, it was great. Never got the upset stomach thing from GBL/GHB though.
 
GHB (gamma-hydroxy butyric acid) is most often taken as its sodium salt (sodium gamma-hydroxy butyrate). The sodium salt is a weak base, but in the stomach it will get protonated again by the HCl and be back to the acid form.
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When I had it scure it was a drink. Is that likely to be a salt mixed in something? What are your thoughts on neutralizing it prior to injestion would this be a solution to stopping the OP from barfing during come up.

What you say makes sense. Would that then be a case that you could neutralise the salt but would become an acid again regardless of PH prior to injestion?
 
It is a liquid in either case. The salt form (sodium gamma-hydroxy butyrate) would be soluble in most any sort of drink. And you are right, it's going to end up in the acid form in the stomach regardless of what you do to it first. It is a very weak base - we eat stronger acids and bases than that in everyday foods. I think the cause of his stomach upset is probably something other than acid/base stuff.
 
No matter what you mix it with, you can't hide the taste of salty butt hole. Better to just chase it.

I noticed if I took on an empty stomach I would get an upset stomach, like go to the bathroom upset. But I would always take it on an empty stomach, took to long to come on with food in my stomach.
 
Thanks for your feedback guys. Now i added the GHB (which was kinda viscous) to roughly 100ml of a carbonated baverage. It tasted a bit salty and weirdly diluted but not too bad of a taste. Anyways, I'll check the pH with some indicator paper when I give it one more try. the thing that u really have to titrate it to get the dosage right makes it kinda inconvenient. also, the ambulance came twice saturday night, apparently because of GHB intoxications. I still have to make up my mind about this substance, but if my stomach turns bad again i'll just toss it away.
 
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