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MDMA - Exp. (self) and 1st time (GF) - Home Psychotherapy

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This is sorta long, so if you don't like reading too much, just read the Background section and skim the Dose/Set/Setting section and of course read the Experience section

Intro

A while ago I told my girlfriend I thought MDMA would be really good for her. She's never tried alcohol, cigarettes, or any illegal drug, however, so naturally she declined. Eventually she was more open to the idea (after seeing me on MDMA and other drugs; and I did not pressure her into anything) and last night we both did MDMA. Why did I think she needed it so badly?

Background

Her life has been filled with abuse and stress from all directions. Molestation, rape, attempted suicide, abuse about every week (even still at age 20), doing most of the house work (including that which her siblings neglect), then working on the farm all night, then going to school all day, then going to work, she goes through a lot. Her highly conservative christian parents attempt absolute control over her. Many people who've learned how to make her feel guilty attempt to control her.

This has taken an obvious toll. She had self image problems, anorexia, severe depression, low sense of self worth, and being unable to really "open up." It took about three months for her to be comfortable to kiss, six months for intercourse, and seven months to try MDMA. Over that period of time she opened up more to me than anyone else, but still had a lot "closed," felt like she did not deserve me, and while I helped her depression and self esteem, she still often let herself be controlled by her family which, whether they had good intentions or not, was horrible for her happiness. Despite all her problems she is often cheerful, she is more empathetic than anyone I know, and brings happiness to almost everyone she knows. It's unfortunate that she was not able to see that she is a great person.

Dose & Set & Setting

We had two tablets each (I estimate them to be ~50mg MDMA). We are ~20 years old and about ~115 (her) & 125 (me) lbs. We had the comfy couch in the basement where we always cuddle and hang out. A week earlier she tried poppies (morphine), which is the only drug experience she had. I myself am experienced. She was not nervous for either experience.

Experience

Because she hadn't eaten breakfast or lunch or dinner, it hit her before me. The first sign of the drug was when she repeatedly remarked on how weird she felt. After a little bit she said "this feeling is awsome" but couldn't describe it in words. She said her hands looked really weird.

We were cuddling through the whole experience as she was continuously talking, coming to realization after realization about her life and relationships and society. She had an invincible happiness, high self-esteem and sense of self-worth, and full mental clarity.

She realized that no one deep down is truly a bad person, that she is beautiful, that she is not fat, that being 20 years old she does not need to let her parents impose absurd rules and absurd amounts of time doing work, that she doesn't need to let the constant negativity and yelling (at her) at her house make her feel bad, and that she is her own person who is a free adult. Everything is fine if she lets it be. She also became more open to getting out of her house and possibly moving here. All of this is obvious stuff, and she may have known some of them intellectually before taking the MDMA, but with the MDMA these ideas became intuitive (or, "felt").

The above was merely the surface of her realizations. She thought (and talked) about everything going on in her life and society in general and had a 180 degree change of direction in her frame of mind. Also, as was expected, we experienced the normal MDMA effects -- movement felt fine-tuned, the sensation of touch was enhanced, and we felt closer to eachother.

Next day

She experienced no come-down. We both got to sleep easily without sleep aides. The next day she still felt raised self-esteem and happiness, and all of the clear perspectives she recieved last night remained with her. (However, her hands still looked funny :p .) She ate breakfast, and planned on eating lunch and dinner. We decided to skip school for the day and take a bath together with some oxycodone instead.

We both think (mostly) everyone should try MDMA, as it would make the world a much better place because people would be happier and more truly empathetic. We also are dissapointed in Oprah for the "holes in your brain" myth. The end

Two days after

Two days after, the afterglow waned and she experienced depression and withdrawal from "openness" (next time I will give her 5HTP). Before the afterglow faded, however, she had a confrontation with her father. She hates confrontations, but with the MDMA magic she stood up to her father. It's best relayed by a direct quote...

he was like i dont like him he's trouble. and i was like yah he's trouble. but he's trouble 4 u not 4 me. u dont like him bc he's finally telling me the things that i dont hear at home. things like i'm pretty and smart and nice. he wants me 2 be my own person and be the best i can be and he makes me feel special and he makes me smile.

u should be begging 2 meet the guy who can do that but instead ur complaining that he's taking away someone u can control. well i'm not gonna take it anymore. u cant mess w/ me anymore bc i'll leave. i will just pack my bags and go and not look back at all.

then he laughed and was like yah rite. u wont go. where would u go? and i was like i'd go live w/ chris and his family. and he laughed again and tried 2 make me think that u guys wouldnt let me stay w/ u and that i'd be 2 much of a burden on u guys but i was just like no chris says that i wouldnt be and i'd b/l him b4 i would b/l u. then he got rly mad and was like u would b/l some guy u just met more than u would b/l ur dad and i was like yah bc i love him. and then i was like deep down dad i love u but u've gone 2 far and messed our relationship 2 much 4 me 2 be able 2 trust u more than him.

and then he was rly mad and was quiet 4 awhile. then he was like u dont know anything about love. and that kinda made me mad and i was like i do know about love. i know enough 2 know that i love him and that its not just some crush. i know that its something special that wont fade after a yr. and i know he loves me back and thats more than i've ever felt from u. i dont remember the last time u've told me that u loved me and i hear it from him every day.

then i couldnt talk 4 awhile bc i was 2 emotional. then when i could talk i was like b/l me dad i will leave if u hit me again. i'll leave if u try 2 mess w/ me. ur rite i wont like it and ur rite i probably will feel guilty about it if i have 2 resort 2 that. but i'm not letting him go bc then i would regret it 4 the rest of my life. i'm tired of doing things i regret bc u can manipulate me 2 do them. i'm not gonna do this 4 u. i'm gonna do something 4 me this time. then he was like u wont do it and then he walked (well more like stomped) away. mom heard us and she came out and i was like mom i will do it. if he messes w/ me i will leave. and she was sad and didnt say anything but i just wanted her 2 know. i wanted someone 2 know that i wasnt just saying it. and then i walked away

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Three days after

She said she is almost back to normal from the come-down. She has been eating three meals a day and has retained what she learned on MDMA

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Four days after

She is fully back to normal, still retaining what she learned. Her hands no longer 'look funny'. Any more follow ups will be weekly

A memory from the experience that we both like is that we were both almost crying because of how much we love eachother (independently), and then realized the other was almost crying too at the same time for the same reason

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Great story. MDMA has incredible potential for self image disorders (e.g. anorexia, low self-esteem, etc.) ... of course you have to follow up after the experience, but it can be an eye opener for someone with an irrationally negative self concept. If only eveyone had access to such well-controlled home psychotherapy ...

Also, what does b/l mean? Now that you've had success with improving her self image, maybe you can teach her to type in legible English. I don't get it ... maybe I'm just old.

Anyway, great report, and glad you could allow your girlfriend to have such a wonderful experience.
 
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Thanks for the report. MDMA is a powerful drug with both a great and useful side and a bad, dangerous side.

When used in the setting described, and with moderation, MDMA can be a life changing woderful drug. Things, often get out of control and its use becomes a habit instead of a sacrament.

PLease moderate yourself and your teach your girlfirend to do the same with drugs. Since you opened her eyes to it, I see it as your responsibility to teach her moderation, watch over her.
 
That was a good report. I'm glad your girl was able to see some self realization come from her trip. This aspect of MDMA is interesting to me in the sheer amount of progress you can make in one trip. Wonderful!

Just remind her moderation is the key if she intends to continue taking MDMA. I would hate to see something that helped her that much turn into another problem in her life.

Be safe, be smart and PLUR. :)
 
i dont even know what to say, that was an amazing report. i like hearing stories about therapudic drugs in action.
 
bumping this for a follow up (its been several months)

we live together and are happy together

she still gets mood swings and depression from time to time because of what happened at her old home, but its quite rare now. shes eating three meals a day and feels great about herself

Just remind her moderation is the key if she intends to continue taking MDMA. I would hate to see something that helped her that much turn into another problem in her life.
well, you see my join date for bluelight, so i know all about the need for moderation with mdma. she never craves it or anything, weve tried mdma once again but the pills were meth bombs unfortunately. quite the come-down. but apparently meth makes her think i look 'extra-sexy' :p. that come down turned her off to stimulants. every once in a while she does opiates with me and they have a similar emotional effect as mdma (loving/empathy/happiness) for her
 
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