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MDMA enhanced trips

Blurpinkle

Blurpinkle

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Do you find you can handle a more intense trip when you ingest some MDMA as well? I have tripped on just LCD or shrooms alone and found that I am rolling the dice sometimes as far as the experience goes, especially with more intense trips, but add a little mdma and it's like an insurance ticket that the trip will be fantastic.

If a trip goes to too high of a level or too weird / intense, I can sometimes get 'the fear' or be stuck in an uncomfortable place for extended periods of time, but I have always been in some sort of story book wonderland when adding mdma to the mix, and I have to say all my combined hippyflip / candyflips have been far more fantastic experiences than tripping alone.

What do you think?
 
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IMO the only real use for MDMA is to combine it with other pyschs to help bring more out of it. That being said I still rarely do it. While it can be fun if done in higher doses it still has the power to add a whole new level to the trip that even with the euphoria can be confusing and unsettling. However this hasnt really happened to me but I could see the potential for it.
 
Mdma makes me paranoid, and mdma plus tryptamines can make me confused, irrational and paranoid. However, when I take it I usually take a lowish dose with 2ci, 2cb, or similar which amps it up to something more enjoyable for me.
 
^ I will promise you that the K actually made your hard comedown less harder than it would have been if you had taken that same MDMA by itself, assuming your K is pure of course.

K is pretty widely used in the circles I used to hang out with to soften the MDMA crash :). I'd go as far as say that K probably also reduces MDMA's toxicity as research suggests, but I won't make such grand claims yet ;).
 
To some extent MDMA dissolves fear but if you do it artificially then you are only fooling yourself in some way. If you have a problem with something, denial is never the answer.

That is not to say MDMA can't feel wonderful in conjunction with a psychedelic, but they don't
say "buy the ticket take the ride" for nothing.
Compare it to watch a suspenseful movie with your eyes covered, it is just much better and healthier if you learn to deal with it more naturally :\
 
Well, to explain my point some more, I really like mushrooms, but I have found that about 1/4th to 1/3rd of the time I do them, I get floored with an unpleasant experience. Nothing horrible or anything, but a body load that is too heavy or I will be stuck in nausea / seasick feeling for hours or I simply can not move, I am too heavy and the world is spinning too fast while everything melts.

When I do a dose of mdma about 30 minutes before ingesting the mushrooms, I have never ever had the mushrooms flooring me problem. Not only that but it made the entire mushroom experience X levels more magical. Hallucinations were stronger, colors were even more pronounced... synthesia was stronger and it was as if I entered a dimension made from the Candyland board game. Everything was crystal and hyper colored and had glitter musical tones to it. Absolutely fascinatingly enjoyable on every level and I could become engulfed and fascinated with a billion different things. Don't even get me started about the time I went to Doctor Seuss Island in Orlando while doing this combo.
 
Never really had a problem just eating straight psychedelics, even those times when i feel like i have died, i just accept it.... buy the ticket, take the ride.

MDMA mixes wonderfully with a lot of things though...

Candyflipping is great.

2c-b, 2c-e, and 2c-i have all been wonderful. 2c-b was full of love, 2c-e gave me an intense desire to cuddle, and with 2c-i my reality fell apart in a land of fractals....

I still have not done shrooms + MDMA.

Tonight, I plan to just roll face.
 
Blurpinkle said:
When I do a dose of mdma about 30 minutes before ingesting the mushrooms, I have never ever had the mushrooms flooring me problem. Not only that but it made the entire mushroom experience X levels more magical. Hallucinations were stronger, colors were even more pronounced... synthesia was stronger and it was as if I entered a dimension made from the Candyland board game. Everything was crystal and hyper colored and had glitter musical tones to it. Absolutely fascinatingly enjoyable on every level and I could become engulfed and fascinated with a billion different things. Don't even get me started about the time I went to Doctor Seuss Island in Orlando while doing this combo.
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This is the same way I did it, only time I've hippyflipped, mdma first then mushrooms second with a redosing of the mdma somewhere along the way. One of the best experiences of my lfe, probably the most euphoric 'trip' I've ever had from drugs. Did mix a bit of meth with the mdma in each dose too, but not alot. Mushrooms + mdma synergise really well, the shrooms intensify the mdma, while the mdma intensifies the shrooms.

I remember the mdma/meth kicked in nice and smoothly and then an hour later as the mushrooms were coming on, I do remember having to sit down for a bit just from the intensity of it, as swirling colours were starting to appear in my head and the loops and confusing thoughts were beginning. I then did throw up quite a bit from the mushroom comeup, but felt alot better after, but it didn't bother me as I was already feeling amazing. I'd be curious to try it with the mushrooms first. But overall, just a great experience, very psychedelic, mystical and mindblowingly euphoric with much much laughter. I like your choice of the word Candyland, Blurpinkle.. heh.

I haven't candyflipped or hippyflipped in a while, I think some fun times are due. Probably a candyflip :)

To answer the actual thread's qustion though :) Yeah, MDMA does ease people up incredibly well and can make them embrace a psychedelic experience they might normally freak out on and fear.

Whenever I've candyflipped at events or festivals, I do get quite self-aware, anxious, maybe paranoid etc while I'm just tripping especially around all the people. When the pills/mdma do kick in though, any shred of anxiety or nervousness melts away completely and I feel much more at ease. I would probably say yeah the right amount of MDMA would make a high dose psychedelic experience possibly easier to handle. Personally I also find speed, either meth or d-amp really helps calm my nerves and get rid of my social anxiety that I often feel when tripping hard in the "wrong" setting. Beware though many people react badly with psyches and speed actually increasing their anxiety/paranoia. Speed always seems to calm me down, maybe I have ADD heh.

edit - I actually know of people who have only EVER taken acid when they've been taking ecstasy too, because of the way it gives you that self-confidence, they've never had it on its own.

Also... if your taking a high dose of most psychedelics I wouldn't want to or recommend mixing with anything else for the most part. Best appreciated on its own. I mean, if you take enough LSD, it doesn't matter what you decide to mix with it, you wouldn't even notice the MDMA if you were tripping that hard, it could potentially bring you down from the trippiness.

sorry long post heh... ahh amphetamines :)
 
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If abused, the normal MDMA high can begin to have a paranoid edge to it - took a few years but it starting happening to me. Had an 8 month break from MDxx substances and now the high has returned to normal again. Breaks are essential with MDMA, if you plan on keeping them fun for many years to come.

But like you say could of been a range of things that weren't even MDMA at all.
 
Thanks for the detailed responses all. I have come upon some molly and fantastic chocolate shrooms and I am getting ready to plan an adventure. I understand what some of you are meaning by saying you should be able to handle a shroom or lsd trip on it's own, and I have done that, but have found mdma just greatly enhances it, even if it's not that much mdma. it isn't really so much that I have a bad trip in terms of thoughts... but something about doing shrooms or lsd alone can give me very weird body feelings half the time that make the mental / spiritual part not very enjoyable because I am too busy waiting for the nausea to pass or
weird cramps / feelings, heaviness that I sometimes get from shrooms especially.
It's like the mdma patches up any stomach / body load problems and just enhances that alone makes the trip so much more enjoyable, let alone the added intensity /joy that the mdma adds. My hippieflip / candyflip journeys have been so fantastic that I dream about returning to them every now and again. I don't see how you could go through life not visiting those magical realms of the inverse space rainbow once in a while.

- Blurpinkle
 
^ I will promise you that the K actually made your hard comedown less harder than it would have been if you had taken that same MDMA by itself, assuming your K is pure of course.

K is pretty widely used in the circles I used to hang out with to soften the MDMA crash . I'd go as far as say that K probably also reduces MDMA's toxicity as research suggests, but I won't make such grand claims yet .
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I'm yet to combine MDMA with a psych, bar ketamine which was done at a lower enough dose to not really have much psychedelic nature to it. Ketamine + MDMA is indeed an extremely good combination, from a recreational stand point anyway.

I have mixed thoughts about 'flipping' though, on one hand I can imagine the euphoria and (especially) the rushes to be unimaginably intense. On the other hand I can see it greatly detracting from the experience. To me, uncomfortable feelings whilst tripping are as much a valid part of the trip as the more positive effects. Those uncomfortable feelings are occurring for a reason, if you can endure these feelings you can often find that reasons - as people have said this can lead to a great trip overall. Many of my best mushroom trips have started with a pretty difficult first hour or so, buffering these feelings with MDMA seems like such a waste to me. I would go as far as saying one of the fundamental positives of psychs is the negative aspect, without it the impact of the message you glean will probably be less. Seems especially bad in a way to counter this with MDMA euphoria, which to me is the antithesis of the psychedelic euphoria - false, chemical.

On the other hand I love the euphoria MDMA gives me, if I were to dismiss it because of my perception of it being false then I would be very much a hypocrite. Flipping is something I really want to do, but I going into it for recreational reasons with an open mind very happily accepting anything deeper that comes from it.

Just my thoughts.
 
Where do i find some of this LCD to trip on?? :P i prefer psychedelics on their own, unless its strictly for a big party atmosphere, but in that case I personally wouldnt take a psych probably
 
Jamshyd said:
^ I will promise you that the K actually made your hard comedown less harder than it would have been if you had taken that same MDMA by itself, assuming your K is pure of course.

K is pretty widely used in the circles I used to hang out with to soften the MDMA crash :). I'd go as far as say that K probably also reduces MDMA's toxicity as research suggests, but I won't make such grand claims yet ;).
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when i first started using K it was to ease the mdma comedown and also bring back the trip/euphoria a bit.:)
 
^^^^ agreed. Ketamine at the end of an MDMA high I find is a great way to enhance the MDMA high during a comedown as well as ease the comedown. I have only mixed ketamine with MDMA at the end of an MDMA high and I'm planning on doing a ketamine and MDMA oral combination, so hopefully I'll get some responses from my thread! (sorry a little thread promoting going on there)

I find MDMA is a great way to make a psychedelic more suitable for social situations. I normally don't bother with psychedelics very often in social situations or more specifically large events with people I don't know, but for a Tool concert for example, which is intrinisically psychedelic and lends itself to being high on psychedelics during the experience, I find mixing MDMA with LSD is amazing and makes any social-anxiety disappear. I normally only use MDMA with a psychedelic for recreational purposes, as it has been suggested that it may decrease the spiritual value of the psychedelic, al though in some circumstances it may enhance the spiritual value. All in all, IMO MDMA does make it easier to handle an intense psychedelic. Whether or not that is what you want from the experience is up to the individual.

It is important to know whether your pills or molly is in fact pure MDMA. I have had "ecstasy" pills with MDMA and meth and when mixing MDMA, meth and LSD for example it can be dangerous. With large enough doses of LSD mixed with any kind of speed, it is not uncommon to experience a state of psychosis. I remember one trip I wont go into detail about after eating about 4 extremely methy pills over the course of a rave and then dropping 4 hits of extremely high powered blotter acid and experiencing complete ego-death followed by intense feelings of enlightenment and the need to "greet the masses" which led to me proclaiming that "I found the answer" while running barefoot on the streets downtown. It was an amazing experience, but the combination of a high dose of LSD along with a high dose of meth and some MDMA, caused me to experience complete ego-mania where I felt the collective conscious would experience my same revelations and all of humanity could proceed to the next level of evolution and unite with the divine source of creation. Unfortunately nobody was listening...
 
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