MDMA + DMAE, Ginkgo Biloba, Piracetam, 5-htp

[bluemanthief]

So if someone were to consume DMAE, Ginkgo Biloba, Piracetam, and 5-htp (see here http://www.erowid.org/smarts/) and then some MDMA, would it be alright?

According to Erowid, these supplements (DMAE, Ginkgo Biloba, Piracetam, and 5-htp) are actually very beneficial for the body, but I was wondering if it would be...

Good to consume MDMA along with them?

Are they all safe to take together?

Would it make someone rool better/harder/more focused?


Well, any information would help, Thanks BaLl'ERS

Happy RoOoLS

BMT

 

[AylaV]

piracetam has been rumoured to assist in rolling. DMAE I've heard mixed things about from improving memory to not even crossing the BBB. Biloba would also increase concentration / memory and 5-htp becomes serotonin. None of these should interfere with each other. What made you choose this combo? Please report back on effects of the combination =)

 

[AndroidsDreamofBTC]

Taking Piracetem for daily for a week before rolling has a noticeable impact on my roll. It generally feels more lucid and sort of like my first time rolling. I would highly recommend taking it. It makes the roll much more fun and adds a feeling of innocence to the experience.

I would take the 5HTP after the roll is over. Some people report having a muted roll when taking 5HTP with the MDMA. We wouldn't want that, would we?

Not sure about the other stuff, like AylaV I've heard mixed things about DMAE.

Good luck, and do tell us about your experiences with rolling and supplements.

 

[Illuminateur]

5HTP + MDMA will not give you serotonin syndrome unless you take a shit ton, I'm talking in excess of 250+mg E, and 500mg-1g of 5HTP. And even then probably not, though I wouldn't recommend it. Don't preload the 5HTP, you will down-regulate your receptors and won't roll as hard. Take it mid roll or after. 5HTP takes like 30 min to take effect and then gets Metabolized. So if you take it early some of it won't even get used. You want it to kick in when you start running out of serotonin both to extend and improve roll and for neurotoxicity prevention.

Piracetam is synergistic, I'm currently taking it in preparation for ETD Pop. It will not adversely affect E, it improves your acetylcholine system. That does, however mean that you NEED to take choline with it(preferably a bit after you take it like 30 min-1 hour should fine, but simultaneously wouldn't hurt you damagewise). Fortunately one of the best choline's is DMAE. Although centrophenoxine is even better, also Alpha-GPC, which is also a super strong antioxidant(All of these pass Blood Brain Barrier and get metabolized where they need to be).

Gingko is extremely noninteracting and will pretty much just increase some blood flow to your brain, but why not, prob help a bit. I might try some too.

 

[bluemanthief]

---->TO:AylaV

I was just reading up on some erowid and i noticed their "smarts" section and started researching these smarts and they seemed like a good thing to combine while roolin,

So far, thanks for the the 5-htp info, may not do that, just post-load or during, I guess

not sure yet but thanks so far for the information, I'm gonna try these things, hopefully, it seems like they can only help.

 

[AylaV]

i agree they seem like good things to combine. I've heard of combining choline with piracetam to get desired effects from the piracetam, though. Is this necessary?

 

[t.ska]

where is Piracetam available in the US? drugstores? walgreens? ect?

 

[AylaV]

the internet. I can't find it in stores. This is an online store I found:

*snip*

They only ship to the USA as well, so that means it will probably be fairly quick shipping.

 

[t.ska]

hmm ok cool. was hoping to avoid internet but we'll see. its not that i really need it..but sounds worth a try. for shits and giggles.

 

[The Smoking Man]

i agree they seem like good things to combine. I've heard of combining choline with piracetam to get desired effects from the piracetam, though. Is this necessary?

Either from supplements or from eating a bunch of eggs/chicken daily, yes.
Oh yeah, with those powdered forms like the one linked to in AylaV's post, keep in mind it's about bitter as fuck, so you should cap it or put it on the tip of your tongue rather than the back. The uncapped powder seems to be by far the cheapest form, though.
There's also other racetams such as oxiracetam, aniracetam, and pramiracetam, going from weakest to strongest respectively. (Piracetam is the weakest.) But they're all much more expensive than piracetam (especially pramiracetam) and can be way harder to find. But a person's response to a racetam is highly variable... one person might not get anything from oxiracetam at all but piracetam has noticeable effects, despite oxiracetam supposedly being stronger. Or some will have odd side effects with their thinking while others won't. Etc.

 

[bluemanthief]

^ you say that there are noticeable effects of Piracetam? What do you mean? are they good or bad or what?

And I also noticed that if you're in the US, you can buy Piracetam online at riteaidonlinestore.com



Also, I just went to my local Rite Aid and I bought a bottle of Ginkgo Biloba and another bottle of somethin called Acetyl L-Carnitine with Alpha Lipoic Acid (<-according to the bottle it's supposed to be good for memory and antioxidant support).

These sounded like good things to pre / post load. and I was kinda in a rush so I just grabbed the second thing cause it sounds pretty healthy/good. I already took some of each and I feel pretty good and clearheaded, considering the fact I just smoked a fatty spiffy about a half hour ago.