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MDMA Caps/powder

pinothippy said:
Actually many years ago i watched someone "grow" cut mdma into crystals... this was in the Byron area and this guy did this fairly reguarly... you can make impure crystals... sorry to be the bearer of ill news Sustanon
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You can make impure crystals, but it is a hell of a lot more involved than finding any old white powder and just throwing it into the already powdered MDMA.

Crystals, much like pills, make it difficult for the dealers down the low end of the chain to cut the product, but the original producers of the crystal can put impurities in them.
 
8o

you're an asshole fieldy.


To be honest, i havn't seen crystal or powder, which i thought was crushed crystal, well looked it, since 2003~ ... took it for granted it seems
 
acidprime said:
8o

you're an asshole fieldy.


To be honest, i havn't seen crystal or powder, which i thought was crushed crystal, well looked it, since 2003~ ... took it for granted it seems
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haha mate it took me well over 4 years to track that stuff down, we had it on 3 separate occasions. My mates mate got done and we haven't seen any of it around since. The whole bag was consumed within 10 hours and eventually kept me awake for 37 and 1/2 hours. We knew we had no more serotonin to use but couldn't help ourselves. Very childish i know. O well im skeptical about touching pills now since i have had some quality gear. I'm sure more is out there but my source is dry for that stuff so o well i shall stick to drinking instead.
 
pinothippy said:
Actually many years ago i watched someone "grow" cut mdma into crystals... this was in the Byron area and this guy did this fairly reguarly... you can make impure crystals... sorry to be the bearer of ill news Sustanon
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We are talking about MDMA here. Same applies for meth. Stuff up the recrystallization product and ull have an impure end result, just look at how many ice wanabee cooks there are. There is just so many goey "base" around its not funny. If they learnt the proper way itd be ice not "base" You could have crystals with most substances but it wont seem like real crystals if its impure. They will be a different color showing impurities. I was refering to getting high quality MDMA which is usually white/see through colored.
 
Look, if the fb is distilled, and the HCl salt made by using a solution, the product will normally be a fairly pure powder, in this case a white odourless powder.
 
i know of a dipshit in melbourne who frequents a few popular night spots where such things are popular and sells "md" caps which can contain any combination of ketamine, speed, methamphetamine, and any other left over powdered residue from his pills which can and does include 4mmc, piperazines, and all of the above...of and if you're lucky maybe even a bit of mdma

i'd be very skeptical of anyone selling md caps at the moment, but i'm sure there's a champ out there doing it somewhere
 
can someone explain the difference between powdered and crystal mdma to me and how it works?
 
There is not really much difference except the form they come in, making decent crystals out of the chemical isn't particularly hard, but most dealers wouldn't know where to start, so it would generally be done by the cook or someone close to the cook (note I say generally, there's nothing to say that someone further down the line couldn't do this). In my experience crystals are usually of a higher quality, but they are no guarantee of quality as you can certainly make crystals out of impure or cut products.

People have the idea that crystals are more pure, and will therefore generally pay extra for them, even though there it could be as bad or worse than any given powder. Hell, it might not even be MDxx you're getting, you can form crystals out of many other substances (e.g. methamphetamine, sugar, plenty of RCs and street drugs too).
 
i was under the impression the end product of the mdma synthesis is always crystal.....is powdered mdma just small crystals or is it a completely different end product?
 
Crystals are the most purest form with most substances. Powder can be just as pure if the crystals been crushed up. I prefer crystals over powder any day tho, alot harder to cut.
 
Sustanon said:
Crystals are the most purest form with most substances. Powder can be just as pure if the crystals been crushed up. I prefer crystals over powder any day tho, alot harder to cut.
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Sorry but I don't believe that this is correct (perhaps PD or someone can confirm). From the bit of quick research I did on a particular very well known drug related website (don't have time to do any more than a skim of the article, I won't link it as it is in regards to synthesis) it seems that the end product is an oil, and then is turned into either crystals or a powder, crystals being the slightly more difficult end result to obtain (but I would've thought if you had the skill to synthesize MDMA you would be able to turn it into crystals). I don't believe that powder is just crushed up crystals usually, although you could obtain it this way.

Both crystals and powder could be anywhere from 0-99.9% pure in theory.
 
^ That's pretty much it. Crystallising or recrystallising can produce a purer product, but if the initial product was a powder, and that powder was prepared and washed properly, then there's no reason that wouldn't be close to pure. Many pharmaceutical grade amines are prepared without the need to produce large crystals.
 
mepat1111 said:
Sorry but I don't believe that this is correct (perhaps PD or someone can confirm). From the bit of quick research I did on a particular very well known drug related website (don't have time to do any more than a skim of the article, I won't link it as it is in regards to synthesis) it seems that the end product is an oil, and then is turned into either crystals or a powder, crystals being the slightly more difficult end result to obtain (but I would've thought if you had the skill to synthesize MDMA you would be able to turn it into crystals). I don't believe that powder is just crushed up crystals usually, although you could obtain it this way.

Both crystals and powder could be anywhere from 0-99.9% pure in theory.
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Depends on how well one performs the synth and how the re crystallization is done from MDMA freebase to MDMA hcl. If done properly the yield will be pure (crystals, proper color) otherwise ull end up with with an unclean dirty powder product that will be different color to whats it supposed to be like.

My point is that powder can be just as pure if the crystal has been crushed up. If the powder originates from not doing the re crystallization phase then its def not going to be purer.

Thanks for ur input too PD.
 
Down in Tassie some dealers have a habit of crushing dud pills after word is out about them being duds and putting them in capsules. Be wary of any capsules I say, especially if they are any colour but a lighter yellow/beige/white. The one time I managed to actually get MDMA crystals or "molly" was straight from the cook.
 
Sustanon said:
Depends on how well one performs the synth and how the re crystallization is done from MDMA freebase to MDMA hcl. If done properly the yield will be pure (crystals, proper color) otherwise ull end up with with an unclean dirty powder product that will be different color to whats it supposed to be like.

My point is that powder can be just as pure if the crystal has been crushed up. If the powder originates from not doing the re crystallization phase then its def not going to be purer.

Thanks for ur input too PD.
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I would think that if you attempted to do the crystallization and the conditions were not completely anhydrous (i.e. dry) you would get a powder too? (again PD can you help here - or maybe this is getting a little too close to synthesis, if so just tell me to shut up :P)

I don't think the only way to get a pure powder would be to crush crystals up, as has been mentioned, many pharmaceuticals are made to be 99%+ pure powders without crystallization.
 
mepat1111 said:
I would think that if you attempted to do the crystallization and the conditions were not completely anhydrous (i.e. dry) you would get a powder too? (again PD can you help here - or maybe this is getting a little too close to synthesis, if so just tell me to shut up :P)

I don't think the only way to get a pure powder would be to crush crystals up, as has been mentioned, many pharmaceuticals are made to be 99%+ pure powders without crystallization.
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Its goin to much towards synthesis. We were actually talking about MDMA here not anything else. MDMA/Meth hcl in its purest form is crystals. Of course there are alot of powders that will never be crystals.
 
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