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MDMA & Cannabis (MERGED)

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I must say myself, the first time i rolled i was very disappointed with the results while smoking. MDMA is too clean of a feeling to throw in with marijuana...like the others say, save the pot for the comedown.
though i must say, marijuana reigns supreme on my favorites list...
only the dank, though.
 
If you want to have the clean MDMA high all night, then don't get high. Usually on the day I roll, I don't smoke at all untill I actually drop. Weed usually just get's you real head-fucked when rolling. Like, ok, MDMA is a clean type feeling, but when mixed with weed, it's like that same feeling, but you're fucked up too cuz you're baked. Meh, I dunno.

All the times I've rolled, I would smoke a bowl of dank right before the peak should coming in. I find it usually puts things into jumpstart in my brain. hell, one night we smoked like a half ounce in one sitting while rolling. I felt fine though, except the head-fuckedness I described above.
It's all personal preference I guess.
 
I used to smoke all the time before, during, and after the roll and it was great, but after taking a 2-3 year break it doesn't work for me anymore. I ruined a perfectly good roll by smoking last time...gives me insane anxiety and paranoia now. It was great while it lasted though and most people love it so go for it.
 
Well like most things it's all in the context, specifically: people and place.

If I'm at a rave or club or party with heavy dancing I'll probably wanna isolate the high of the e, maybe add some uppers or chug some redbull. Then when I come down, depending on how I'm feeling I either will or will not smoke up.

As for more of a social setting or with people who don't move around that much, or watching a movie or whatnot, I'll probably smoke up while I'm rolling.

It's all in the context and what kinda high fits it ;)
 
I use Mary J as a bumper at the end of the roll to bounce me back up a bit. Also finding holding my breathe easier at the end of the roll so I can get really good hits.
 
Whats interesting here is how many different experiences the E/weed combo can produce.

I've had times when I've dropped and not felt anything until I'd had a couple of tokes. Maybe the pill was particularly mild and I needed an enhancer to become aware of the hit. Or perhaps it was a coincidence and the pill absorption had been delayed... Also, one time in the mid 90's I had a very, very mild LSD trip but no hash or week. Nothing happened until about 24 hours later when I was coming home from finally scoring and smoking. I tripped harder on the bus home 24 hours after taking the acid, than I did at the time of ingestion. Weird huh?
 
Si Ingwe said:
Nothing happened until about 24 hours later when I was coming home from finally scoring and smoking. I tripped harder on the bus home 24 hours after taking the acid, than I did at the time of ingestion. Weird huh? [/B]
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Maybe the bud was sherm dipped (formeldahyde, embalming fluid)?

Thankfully I have never had that experience, but heard many stories of people "kicking up" cheesy bud with sherm, or getting bud that tasted like clam chowder that made em hallucinate something fierce, (following by the flushing of the bunk bud) or actually having embalming fluid and dipping cigarettes in it for a ghetto ass high.

Was the high that you felt after smoking the bud a clean, happy, anxious-free LSD high or a weirder high maybe not LSD?
 
if i smoke weed while im peaking i feel like a complete dumbass, and it effects me for the entire following week so i dont do that anymore. like everyone's been saying save it for the comedown %)
 
first time i rolled we smoked an probably an ounce
it was like we couldn't even feel the smoke
it was like we could taste it, but none of the harshness that comes along with smoking (same with menthols---and i dont even smoke cigs,but i smoked a pack to myself that night)
we smoked blunt after blunt after blunt after blunt
and then when we ran out of blunts
we took about a million bong hits
even this one chick who doesn't smoke pot normally was hittin that shit up like a champ

we always try to have a good amount of bud around when we're rollin (make sure u roll ur blunts beforehand though LOL---it can be a real mission when ur rollin ur ass off)

but sometimes i cant smoke (bud or cigs) when i'm rolling
i'll never forget this one time i rolled i took a hit off of this blunt and i thought i was going to DIE
i coughed up a fucking lung
and to my surprise
i looked up to see my friend LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF at me
that completely cured my dying lol

idk though,even if we've had weed,sometimes i've smoked,sometimes i haven't

if u think u wanna burn one, go for it!
 
I absolutely love it.

When I'm on pills and I smoke it provides a right headfuck. It's usually when I start tripping too. I tend to find that MDMA + weed makes for a more MDA like experience. MDMA/MDA + weed absolutely fucks me. Very euphoric, nice body high and music sounds amazing.
 
its all good

I Care Because You Do said:
just out of curiosity do you normally get paranoid while smoking (not in combination with any other drug)?
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i smoke everyday and i am not the slite bit paranoid unless the cops are at my door lol i also smoke pot while on it and it hightens my experiences of the e heaps better i think... so yeah no probs here
 
Yes, it's fine, a good spliff or two enhances my roll normally. But if you smoke a lot of weed (as it's easy to do while rolling), it can dull the E high a bit. I prefer to just smoke a lil bit while rolling and save the rest for the next morning where it is a godsend to help with the comedown.
 
Cannabis before MDMA?

I'm going to a Psytrance party tonight and will most probably try MDMA for the first time. The party starts at 6 and I'd like to roll at around 10 or 11, is it a good idea to smoke weed an hour or two before rolling?

I'm not going to use alcohol before or during, because I've heard it can cause problems and cloud the experience, but would weed or alcohol during/after the comedown a good idea?
 
Yeah, weed imo goes nicely before, during and after.
The best thing to do is smoke when just before you come up as an aid. You'll know your about to come up when the weed will stop effecting you even when you smoke some more.
 
in my experience pot does sfa but my mates rave on about how it makes it better.
there is no real harm in drinking alcohol whilst on pills just dont go too crazy or get dehydrated ive done pills too many times too count and i think ive been drinking on pretty much all of em
 
Yeah, in the interest of harm reduction most people will advise you not to combine alcohol and E, but if it's your first time you might benefit from the more relaxed state that a few beers might put you in. If it's your first time and you're apprehensive, then a little booze may quell any anxiety and stop the self-monitoring of "have I come up yet?", which can diminish or kill a roll.
 
As for weed, I guess it might do the same thing for you. It sketches me out so I've never tried it before rolling...
 
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