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MDMA before LSD , No anxiety ?

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Iam one of those people who smoked cannabis for a while (2yrs) then experienced the panic. and since then every time i smoke cannabis i get anxious.
im also experienced with mdma and lsd . with lsd i can say i had up and downs in my trips i felt very good at times and also anxious in some part of the trip aswell. however i could handle it much easier than while im on weed. but still I experice some sort of anxiety on L. which mostly comes from the over thinking and over analyzing things . and i can feel that the key to have best time on acid is just observe and stop your mind from thinking.
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with mdma i can say it is all good all the way .it almost make you thoughtless.
so my question is : is there any one here who done MDMA before Lsd to see how it goes?
from my point of view mdma put me in the best mind set ,relax and calm. I think one will enjoy lsd fully if he take MD beforehand .
whats you thoughts ? any one done it?
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Your syntax really needs improvement, cause I don't really understand what you are trying to say at the end there...

MDMA does alleviate anxiety issues in a lot of cases but it isn't really healthy to pre-load with MDMA in order to trip on acid. You need to cover your bases and investigate those foundations, learn to handle and channel those anxiety issues that may arise. Use other techniques such as breathing exercises and having a set & setting that are open to your inner constraints. Learn to work with your inner self.
 
Solipsis said:
Your syntax really needs improvement, cause I don't really understand what you are trying to say at the end there...

MDMA does alleviate anxiety issues in a lot of cases but it isn't really healthy to pre-load with MDMA in order to trip on acid. You need to cover your bases and investigate those foundations, learn to handle and channel those anxiety issues that may arise. Use other techniques such as breathing exercises and having a set & setting that are open to your inner constraints. Learn to work with your inner self.
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Couldn't have stated it better myself
 
Taking MDMA and acid at the same time is pretty awesome fun, having both comedowns hit at the same time is hell

I've never really experienced any anxiety during the peak of a trip with or without MDMA in the mix so I can't really say if it would kill your anxiety. Then again I always trip in optimal or almost optimal settings, and spend most of the peak by myself

MDMA is a more overwhelming high altogether though for me at least, unless I have heaps of acid. And it is possible to have a bad time on MDMA. And I second what solipsis said
 
For me LSD usually overpowers the MDMA, with the MDMA only adding a touch of its own flavour to an otherwise LSD trip. Then again, I usually trip on relatively large doses of LSD, and take MDMA at a dose maybe 80% of my normal MDMA-only dose (if I can choose, that is). I also take the MDMA right about 1-1,5h into the acid, so it hits during the peak. I never had so many problems with anxiety (I did have anxiety, but didn't find it hard to deal with) on LSD, and usually the strongest anxiety hits a few hours in (unless you've dosed low, when it's often during the comeup), so for me taking the MDMA later was always the way to go. Also then they come down closer to a similar time, with the acid beginning to plateau and MDMA come down arond the same time as opposed to the MDMA coming down while the acid was still running strong.

I have found that MDMA alleviates anxiety from LSD very well though, and many of my friends report the same thing, so I don't see why it wouldn't work as a pre-emptive tactic.
 
Taking LSD with MDMA is colloquially known as a 'candy flip', there's many reports on Erowid about it.

It can be lots of fun, but it can also be too intense for some. MDMA doesn't guarantee you will be happy, just that you'll feel intense emotions... there have been a few candy flip freakouts before!

I'm kind of with Soli on this issue - learn to work through the bits of sadness, confusion, overanalysis. Without dark there can be no light.
 
i wonder if u can candy flip with doses i like,that is 1000mcg acid and 80-100 MD.... wouldnt the acid steamrole over the xtc making it complete waste?
 
This is my experiences with MDMA before a strong psychedelic such as LSD. MDMA puts you in a very positive frame of mind prior to the trip, and most likely into the trip or during the trip depending upon the time of dosage. With the mindset it puts you in it would be very hard to even have a bad trip at all. Now, I will say that if you take the dosage too high on one or the other, things could get ugly. Though you should be able to even increase your LSD dosage without fear of having a bad trip, thus very possibly making an experience that is unforgettable and beneficial to your well being.

Also might I add they also add to the visual aspect which makes it an even better combination.
 
Look up nick sands way of dosing. MDMA before LSD. It allows you to integrate the LSD fully in a positive state of mind. I will never take LSD then MDMA again after my last experience. Truly beautiful. A nice dose of MD then an even nicer dose of L.
 
i have taken MDMA before dosing L before and it worked out well. however i was pretty sketched about having to deal with an acid peak coming down on ecstasy. there were uncomfortable points. mostly physically, just exhausted from the stimulation of the MDMA and now the L kicking in. it was a good trip, but i doubt it would work that way every time. when i combine LSD and MDMA i go the other way around--acid first, about four hours later start dosing up the MDMA. i can typically continue dosing both drugs and have the trip stay within the same ballpark as the first roll, it just extends the experience. i definitely recommend to candyflip that way. but beware, when candyflipping you must take around half of each dose that you would normally take alone, the drugs potentiate each other so definitely dont go eating handfuls of each.
 
sekio said:
The two have different modes of action - so probably not.
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Good point but not necessarily a strong argument if you consider that DMT can overpower the effects of other drugs even if the MOA's are unrelated...
 
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