SqueezeTheShaman
Bluelighter
Ecstasy and Viagra -- Experienced with MDMA -- Not a good mix, at all.
Lately, there are a lot of questions on this board about maintaining an erection while rolling, and Viagra is repeatedly suggested as a "cure" for the problem.
This report relates my experience with the combination. I only post it here as an example of what you can potentially expect by mixing them.
In short summary - my opinion is this: It's not a good mix, at all.
Background: Many men have trouble even getting an erection while they are rolling. I do not suffer this problem, I just can't have an orgasm while rolling. The reasoning behind trying viagra with the E was that some people had reported being able to achieve orgasm with this mix. This is why I chose to try it. Because of the warnings I had read, I proceeded cautiously. I am 31 years old, in good physical health, and in excellent physical shape: 5'6" - about 150 lbs- and have around 10% body fat. I expected that my good health, and the cautious mixing of the two would be enough to minimize any real dangers.
It has been 7 weeks since my last roll, and I usually roll about once a month. I took a dose of 1 1/2 pills of e - "yellow dollars" - which have shown themselves to be a very clean, but relatively low dose pill - thus the reasoning for 1 1/2 pills. The roll set in just like clockwork at about the 45 minute mark - and it was a wonderful experience, like most every other roll.
My wife and I spent the next hour doing the usual cuddling, and talking, and kissing etc. as we enjoyed each others company locked up in the bedroom. 2 hours after taking the pills (1 hour and 15 minutes into the actual roll itself) I took 50mg of viagra.
About 30 minutes later it 'kicked' in. I didn't have any of the visual effects that others have reported with this combination, but I certainly felt the "body buzz" that accompanies viagra. It was a really intense experience, like tripling the tactile - touchy feely aspect of the e itself. Before you run out thinking this is great - gotta have some - it lasted less than five minutes, and I won't say that it was a pleasant buzz. I don't really know if the viagra helped to keep an erection or not, because I don't suffer that problem. It was not any different than any other experience. While the physical sensation was slightly increased for me - it did nothing to help me achieve orgasm as I'd originally hoped. As a side note: because of the increased physical sensation - being on the receiving end of oral sex was unbearably uncomfortable. Physical sensation is greatly increased with the viagra - but I wouldn't say that it's pleasant.
About 15 minutes later - (2 hours into the roll - 45 minutes after taking viagra) - I became frighteningly aware of my own heartbeat. It seemed that I could feel my heart slamming against my ribcage with every beat. I told my wife - and she said that indeed my heart was pounding very hard. I found this odd simply because I wasn't winded from any heavy exertion . We took a few minutes to rest and just talk/cuddle for a bit. Let me say that at no point during this trip did I freak out - or fear for my life - or anything like that. From this point on though - I was very aware that I was in a less than perfect state of health, and chose not to push my luck.
A few minutes later - the pounding of my heartbeat in my own ears became so loud that I found it difficult to hear what my wife was saying to me. She checked my pulse again and commented that it was very weak and that she had trouble finding it. I began to count out the rhythm for her that I could hear in my ears and she had no trouble finding my pulse at that point. However, she said it was still very weak.
Over the course of the next hour my heart rate switched back and forth between these two extremes - pounding very hard in my chest, and then weak, but very loud in my ears. I found this very frightening, but did not panic. I simply chose to spend the rest of the roll taking it easy and avoiding any extreme physical exertion that could aggravate the problem.
In summary: This is a mixture I will NOT be doing again. It didn't achieve the effect I had hoped for, and in my opinion - the warnings about the danger of this mixture are to be taken seriously. Since I know that this report won't stop others from trying the mixture - I can only offer one piece of advice for those who insist on trying it:
Proceed with extreme caution when mixing these two drugs
Also, If you have to make a mistake in choosing your dosage - make the mistake of taking too small a dose, not too big.
As a side note, the next morning after the roll, we had sex again. Presumably there was still some Viagra in my system. As I neared orgasm, the "pressure" building was like no orgasm I'd ever had before. I expected I was about to have the greatest orgasm of my life. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just at the magic moment - everything subsided, and I had probably the single least satisfying orgasm of my life.
Sure it was an orgasm, but it certainly wasn't worth the time that I invested in the process. Kind of like, Vin Diesel is technically an actor, but there isn't really any acting in his movies. :D .
Just my .02. Don't waste your money. It f's up your roll, and the "benefit" it can provide isn't worth it.
[Changed topic from "Ecstasy and Viagra" to comply with forum guidelines -Splatt]
[ 16 August 2002: Message edited by: Splatt ]
Lately, there are a lot of questions on this board about maintaining an erection while rolling, and Viagra is repeatedly suggested as a "cure" for the problem.
This report relates my experience with the combination. I only post it here as an example of what you can potentially expect by mixing them.
In short summary - my opinion is this: It's not a good mix, at all.
Background: Many men have trouble even getting an erection while they are rolling. I do not suffer this problem, I just can't have an orgasm while rolling. The reasoning behind trying viagra with the E was that some people had reported being able to achieve orgasm with this mix. This is why I chose to try it. Because of the warnings I had read, I proceeded cautiously. I am 31 years old, in good physical health, and in excellent physical shape: 5'6" - about 150 lbs- and have around 10% body fat. I expected that my good health, and the cautious mixing of the two would be enough to minimize any real dangers.
It has been 7 weeks since my last roll, and I usually roll about once a month. I took a dose of 1 1/2 pills of e - "yellow dollars" - which have shown themselves to be a very clean, but relatively low dose pill - thus the reasoning for 1 1/2 pills. The roll set in just like clockwork at about the 45 minute mark - and it was a wonderful experience, like most every other roll.
My wife and I spent the next hour doing the usual cuddling, and talking, and kissing etc. as we enjoyed each others company locked up in the bedroom. 2 hours after taking the pills (1 hour and 15 minutes into the actual roll itself) I took 50mg of viagra.
About 30 minutes later it 'kicked' in. I didn't have any of the visual effects that others have reported with this combination, but I certainly felt the "body buzz" that accompanies viagra. It was a really intense experience, like tripling the tactile - touchy feely aspect of the e itself. Before you run out thinking this is great - gotta have some - it lasted less than five minutes, and I won't say that it was a pleasant buzz. I don't really know if the viagra helped to keep an erection or not, because I don't suffer that problem. It was not any different than any other experience. While the physical sensation was slightly increased for me - it did nothing to help me achieve orgasm as I'd originally hoped. As a side note: because of the increased physical sensation - being on the receiving end of oral sex was unbearably uncomfortable. Physical sensation is greatly increased with the viagra - but I wouldn't say that it's pleasant.
About 15 minutes later - (2 hours into the roll - 45 minutes after taking viagra) - I became frighteningly aware of my own heartbeat. It seemed that I could feel my heart slamming against my ribcage with every beat. I told my wife - and she said that indeed my heart was pounding very hard. I found this odd simply because I wasn't winded from any heavy exertion . We took a few minutes to rest and just talk/cuddle for a bit. Let me say that at no point during this trip did I freak out - or fear for my life - or anything like that. From this point on though - I was very aware that I was in a less than perfect state of health, and chose not to push my luck.
A few minutes later - the pounding of my heartbeat in my own ears became so loud that I found it difficult to hear what my wife was saying to me. She checked my pulse again and commented that it was very weak and that she had trouble finding it. I began to count out the rhythm for her that I could hear in my ears and she had no trouble finding my pulse at that point. However, she said it was still very weak.
Over the course of the next hour my heart rate switched back and forth between these two extremes - pounding very hard in my chest, and then weak, but very loud in my ears. I found this very frightening, but did not panic. I simply chose to spend the rest of the roll taking it easy and avoiding any extreme physical exertion that could aggravate the problem.
In summary: This is a mixture I will NOT be doing again. It didn't achieve the effect I had hoped for, and in my opinion - the warnings about the danger of this mixture are to be taken seriously. Since I know that this report won't stop others from trying the mixture - I can only offer one piece of advice for those who insist on trying it:
Proceed with extreme caution when mixing these two drugs
Also, If you have to make a mistake in choosing your dosage - make the mistake of taking too small a dose, not too big.
As a side note, the next morning after the roll, we had sex again. Presumably there was still some Viagra in my system. As I neared orgasm, the "pressure" building was like no orgasm I'd ever had before. I expected I was about to have the greatest orgasm of my life. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just at the magic moment - everything subsided, and I had probably the single least satisfying orgasm of my life.
Sure it was an orgasm, but it certainly wasn't worth the time that I invested in the process. Kind of like, Vin Diesel is technically an actor, but there isn't really any acting in his movies. :D .
Just my .02. Don't waste your money. It f's up your roll, and the "benefit" it can provide isn't worth it.
[Changed topic from "Ecstasy and Viagra" to comply with forum guidelines -Splatt]
[ 16 August 2002: Message edited by: Splatt ]
