Those of you doing MDMA aka Molly Ecstasy or whatever you want to call it and mixing it with Ketamine please read this post.
My son did both MDMA and Ketamine at the same time. It was the "drug of choice" until Nov 7th when he over dosed on it. He snorted just a lil to much. I watched the OD as did my husband, his lil brother and older sister and GF. He was sooooo high that he could not control his muscles they became rigid and his eyes where pin dots. he was turning manic. Bouncing off walls,face planting everything and would slam into the ground get up and do it again. He had super human strength. We had to call 911 as his heart was beating out of his chest. It took 4 cops to take him down until the EMT's arrived. By time he left the home he was having a seizure. Watching it was horrific. You have no idea what its like to watch your son dying. when I got to the ER he was in a bed restrained on all fours to the bed still had that glaring look. He also had on an adult diaper with a catheter in his penis. I will NEVER forget this. His kidney's were functioning at 50% he was in the intensive care unit for 5 days and now has permanent damage. He is also facing charges from that night for drug abuse and resisting arrest. he is facing 2 yrs in prison.
SO go ahead take the gamble , let your friends see you all high and say he will sleep it off when in fact you would never wake up if you did what my son did. His GF didn't want us to call 911 if he was with her alone he would be dead. DEAD think about what you are all doing.
This scaremongering isn't helping anyone.
Ketamine is a remarkably safe drug, there is a reason doctors give it to children as an anesthetic. It would be VERY, VERY, VERY hard to overdose on ketamine to a fatal point... it however, it VERY, VERY, VERY easy to get too high and
think you are dying. I was not there, I didn't see what happened... so I have no real say in this. But honestly it seems like you severely overreacted to seeing your kid fucked up and he now will have to deal with the criminal consequences of that for the rest of his life.
I don't question his situation was dangerous, but I have doubts he would have been seizing up if there weren't 4 uniformed officers trying to hold him down. Perhaps he got a bad batch, or had been taking something other than ketamine.. but really, we don't need you trying to demonize a drug that is considered one of the essential chemicals in medicine.
Also, GHB and ketamine in combination isn't all that dangerous, it was recommended to me by a few BL mods actually. It's kind of counterintuitive, but they don't don't affect the respiratory or circulatory system to an overt extent and their effects don't synergize like benzos/opiates and alcohol/GHB would.
Still, you have to be very careful with the dosing or you can get very dysphoric and end up with "the spins". Make sure the K wears off before dosing any GHB, since ketamine only lasts an hour or two tops that shouldn't be hard. I like to have plenty of ketamine while I'm rolling then usually a little bit of GHB to bring me to sleep at the end.. it's the perfect experience IMO
