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MDMA and Dissolving in Water- Total Failure.

DtheGrim

DtheGrim

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So today I got hold of some wonderfully pure tan dutch molly for myself and a few friends. We all had planned to use it tonight, and therefore set apart 1.4 grams for 7 people.
This includes a 100mg starter dose, and a 100mg booster for later.
So, long story short, I set the 1.4 grams of mdma aside in a small cup on my desk, and while I was pouring myself a glass of water (in what seems now to have been an idiotic stupor), I accidentally grabbed said cup containing my precious mdma, and poured water into it.

Lulz may be had now.

Regardless, I didn't want to consider this a complete waste, and am now wondering if this can be separated into drinkable doses for my friends and I?
The amount of water poured was 55mL, and inside of it resides my 1.4 grams of mdma.
Could I add more water to the concoction and perhaps divide that into doses for tonight?

Anyone have any formulas or ideas as to how much?
I was never any good at math in school, as you can see.
I'm sorry if I'm making anyone feel like they're back in algebra taking a test they didn't study for.lol
Any help is appreciated!
 
No worries dude, everything is still going to be 100% fine.


1/55th of 1400mg is 28mg - so 1ml will contain 28mg. If you add 5ml (60ml total) one ML will be just under 25mg - making it quite easy to dose. You could also easily evaporate the water, you will CERTAINLY want to do this if you plan on holding onto this for a while. If you plan on consuming it all rather quickly though, it's not necessary.

That sucks dude, but it could have been a LOT worse lol
 
Assuming it was tap water (containing added chemicals like CHLORINE), it's best you sort this out and dose ASAP as I believe said chemicals will rapidly degrade the MDMA.
 
Wow, you totally just saved my life, man. Or at least it definitely feels like it.
Wish you had been there in high school.lol
But that sounds super easy to follow, thank you so much!

As for evaporating the water, will that leave just the mdma behind? It honestly crossed my mind but I didn't think it would work.
How is it done?
Do you just boil the water normally or something?
I definitely should have paid attention in Chemistry, too.
 
^ You could just pour it out on a tray and let it sit for about a day. The water should all evaporate off and leave you with MDMA. Maybe put it in front of a heater or a VERY light heat source but boiling certainly would be overkill

trozzle said:
Assuming it was tap water (containing added chemicals like CHLORINE), it's best you sort this out and dose ASAP as I believe said chemicals will rapidly degrade the MDMA.
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lol no they won't



Although - the water and the oxygen in the water WILL degrade your MDMA slightly... but this is probably going to take years before any difference is noticed. The biggest problem would be if your MDMA is cut with sugar at all, it has quite the potential to grow mold if that's the case.
 
I definitely think I'll let it evaporate if I have any left over after tonight, which will be a win win situation.
For now, I'll add the extra water, and refrigerate until consuming later on today.

I doubt the degradation will be noticeable, if at all.
The MDMA had a 83% purity from a very trusted source, so I assume it will still be very much potent!
 
DtheGrim said:
I definitely think I'll let it evaporate if I have any left over after tonight, which will be a win win situation.
For now, I'll add the extra water, and refrigerate until consuming later on today.

I doubt the degradation will be noticeable, if at all.
The MDMA had a 83% purity from a very trusted source, so I assume it will still be very much potent!
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Ahhh the good ole 84% talk...:)
 
Folley said:
lol no they won't
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Have read on here in multiple threads, mostly regarding plugging MDMA via dissolving it in a syringe, not to use tap water. It may have something to do with not wanting to put straight tap water up your ass, but in any case I'm almost certain I've read that the additives in tap water can react and degrade MDMA. I'd rather err on the side of caution on this one anyway, regardless of whether it's doubted or not.
 
Note: As the solvent (water in this case) evaporates and the MDMA starts to crystallize, the crystalls will stuck to the surface quite hard. So you need to scrape some of it off. So it's better to have the stuff in a container that you can easily scrape it of from.

Of you can leave it in the current container, take out what you can and then with the help of miniscule amout of water (or IPA) get the MDMA remains, the stuck stuff solved in the to the solvent. Pour that liquid on straight class surface and let it evaporate from that. It's easy to scrape the left overs from there.
 
If you've got a way to accurately measure the water you wont have any problems. That is unless you were all planning on going clubbing or something... I'm not quite sure how you'd go about smuggling MDMA laced water into there :P. What I'd do is add more water to it so you have 140ml of water. Then use your measuring device to measure out 20ml for everyone... That way they can then either drink that in two doses of 10ml (100mg each time), or pour those two 10mls into a larger drink to hide the taste!

Water takes quite a while to evaporate spontaneously, I don't think you'll have enough time to completely evaporate the whole thing without heating by tonight. If you were planning on doing that I'd get it onto as wide a plate/tray as possible to maximize the surface area, place a fan over it and maybe a heater on low/medium underneath it. Keep an eye on it though, you don't want the fan to blow off the crystals when the water is completely gone!
 
Ideally you would pour it in into a flask insert a pierced cork and connect it to a vacuum pump. Dropping the air pressure in the flask by half an atmosphere will greatly speed up evaporation. An electric mantle around the flask would help even more.
 
Ideally you would pour it in into a flask insert a pierced cork and connect it to a vacuum pump. Dropping the air pressure in the flask by half an atmosphere will greatly speed up evaporation. An electric mantle around the flask would help even more.
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Potentially a valid point I guess another thing to consider is loss of the MDMA into the air during the evaporation process. I wonder if refluxing it would help?

In all reality I doubt the average raver is going to be particularly interested in building either a chemistry style vacuum source or setting up a heating mantle.

I wonder if something more domestic like one of those wine vacuums would work?

I know creating a vacuum reduces the boiling point but does it increase the potential for evaporation / crystalization? isnt the air needed to facilitate this process?

not sure but interesting thread :)
 
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