Hey guys,
This is a trip report from the weekend just gone where myself and two friends tried out a combo i had been curious about for a while now, MDMA & 6apb.
I had done some web research on this combo including here on bluelight, and decided it was worth a try.
This is my first report so apologies for the rant that this my turn in to . . .
my drug experiences are by no means extensive, i have used cannabis on and off for the past 10 odd years and not touched anything else until last August when i took the dive and tried MDMA at a small UK Music festival, this was a revelation in its self and i have gone through something of a honeymoon period with MDMA ever since using it roughly 5 or 6 times. my MDMA use had always been with more experienced users so i always felt safe in doing it and being a bit obsessive about things spent many an hour reading up on safe use, dosage, pre loading, post loading and just about every trip report i could. as well as the MDMA i also fairly recently tried Ket which i liked and Coke which i did not. also the one and only time i bought random pills at rave they turned out to be what i suspect to be amphetamine, again didn't like that one bit.
6apb came into the picture after stumbling across it on a research chem site that will go unnamed after looking up MXE (after reading an article on the NME). I tried the 6apb a couple of times and found it to need more work than MDMA to produce a pleasant high, i.e. don't use it on a full stomach after smoking cannabis all night, things got a bit speedy!
all the substances consumed had been tested to validate their authenticity.
anyway enough rambling on to the report:
we have myself, male 27, friend 26, friends gf 23
Setting is friends apartment who i am visiting 100+ miles away from where i live.
prior to the evening i had good week of exercise, sleep and regulated my diet to include all those things that make MDMA that bit better, also taking 5htp capsules on the days up to but not including the night itself.
T-4HRS: the three of us shared a fairly light meal of Nachos and Fajitas, nothing to heavy and in plenty of time for it to not impede the effects.
T-2.5HRS: Played monopoly (thoroughly enjoyed as i won!)
T-0 (8:30PM) weighed out 100mgs of the 6apb each and went down the hatch bombed in rizla, opened some Vodka and mixers (the idea was to head out into town around 11ish and hit a few bars for the inevitable dance floor draw)
T+1HRS could be the vodka could be the 6apb but a warm feeling is felt fom the chest, friend confirms this. Start listening to music just sitting on sofa, conversation is easy as always between us.
T+2HRS Gearing up for going out the music sounds better, lights are more pronounced and energy definitely increased, at the time i put this down to excitement and atmosphere as the other two report no other effects felt.
T+2.5HRS Weigh out 60mgs of MDMA each which is also bombed in rizla, step out of the flat and head for a bar. light a cig as i get out which was very enjoyable and MDXX type effects are almost instantly felt. its quite cold out and a sharp fine rain is falling, feels very pleasant. a few moments later we hit the high street which has year round decorative street lights and again an MDMA type come up is felt nothing to overwhelming very nice. at this point i wonder what is causing this come up as it has only been a few minutes since the MDMA was bombed i conclude its the 6apb. walk into local bar, place is nice and darkly lit with not brilliant music playing but music non the less. place is semi full dance floor empty. grab a bottle of beer each and lurk at edge of dance floor chatting. at this point feel a bit edgy as my pupils are very obviously dilated, don't quite feel energy enough to dance yet but feeling more and more comfortable as more people fill the venue.
T+3HRS Bar filled up nicely so start to move around a bit, this brings on what i can only describe as the most intense MDMA come up i can remember, i usually dose 100-150mgs of MDMA so the low dose of 60 comes as a surprise. Euphoria, energy, confidence, the whole deal in full swing. Sudden urge for a cig leads us outside which melts into a blur, cig enhances come up even more Euphoria now beyond anything ever felt. head back in after a few mins to grab another drink. Friends gf is getting a bit wobbly on her feet so we opt to sit for a while. after a few moments of what was at the time a joyful blur we again head outside to try another bar, at this point myself and friend realise gf is too shaky on her feet to carry on and i become overwhelmed with empathy. not that it would be strange to care for someones well being as its his gf and my best friends gf. she was pretty much okay but high heels and hedonism must be a no no. feel very very inclined to make sure she's okay probably so much so that its irritating to her. at this point we decide to head back to the apartment. the decision is a welcome one, after being out for only a short while going back seems like a good idea already, mostly out of concern but partially the idea of just being with friends in a comfortable setting seems very appealing to me while this high.
T+3.5 HRS back in apartment come up still going strong as more and more rushes of energy / euphoria are coming on, i pop open the laptop for music and begin dancing like a fool, the next part is a bit blurry with all three of us quite clearly riding a big high some dancing & talking ensues for a period of time.
T+4HRS definitely peaked to a absurd high and level out at this point, the confusion of the come up gives way to a clarity that is welcome, despite this it only takes the right song or movement to flood my head with euphoria again, at this point i start to go through a few things in my mind, feelings of contentment give way to more serious issues that i tend to put to one side when sober, firstly my gf has no idea i use MDMA something i feel very guilty about but have my reasons for doing so, next i worry about my friends gf I'm with tonight, has she ever seen me when I'm not here to get high? again start to feel very bad about this but in an insightful, I'm going to mend my ways kind of feeling.
T+4.5 HRS Friend pops out for some cans, dancing less starting to feel a bit to warm so i sit and sip on a mountain dew. next four or so hours are spent listening to music and talking about all sorts and i can honestly say this was the most pleasant part of the evening, wouldn't say I'm coming down at all but steadying out to a very enjoyable state of mind. early negative feelings are forgotten for the time being. Loved up feelings are a plenty its all i love you's and happiness, i feel very content with the company I'm keeping and very happy for my friends as they make quite the couple, no awkward ness whatsoever at being the third wheel.
T+8 HRS Euphoria faded but contentment remains, speedy after effects of 6-apb creeping in, extreme bruxism has persisted for a while now. i think at about this point things began to wind down some what still very talkative though.
T+9HRS Body feels very tired despite no excessive dancing, mind feeling very speedy now. try to get some sleep to ill effect, probably manage 1-2 hours over the next 6 hours.
Next day: get up about 11am next morning feel very tired, no noticeable comedown per se just very very tired. spend the day / evening lounging around watching tv, feel very relaxed towards the end of the evening and sleep soundly the next night.
Following morning: awake to phone going off at about 10:30 decide its time to head home, friends are still asleep but get up just before i go. at this point i feel very reflective about the fridays nights events and a low creeps in like a delayed come down (or the tuesday blues coming in early) really don't feel like driving home.
Drive home is not fun feel pretty down due to the high of friday and the night time is a similar state of reflection, i suspect low serotonin contributes to lul in mood. seeing my gf picks me up she's excitement personified.
i write this report on the monday still feeling a bit meh, and have come to a few conclusions:
Firstly the combo itself - good grief it works, don't know how but the come up was less harsh than MDMA alone and the euphoria lasted considerably longer than on its own, probably contributed to the extended low. the speedy aftereffects are not good, on MDMA alone i can always sleep afterwards on this no chance. i think at a festival or rave the extended high could work quite well with some tinkering or the dosages.
next on drugs like these in general - i have always taken MDXX type substances while out, be its bars clubs raves or festivals and it was always a good night, this time however i taking it at a "at home" setting was a revelation with friends who i don't get to see as much as i would like, the lack of crowds, loud music and other distractions gave me a chance to enjoy the feeling on a more intimate level and the connections you feel at the time for me far outweigh using MDMA as a dance floor drug.
Finally i have decided after this night that my MDMA honeymoon is over, cant see myself doing it again for a long long time, while the connection you feel with others is amazing the low afterwards is not worth the high, there are things i want to address, like going to see my friend and his gf and not getting of my head, its not an impression i want to pass on and its now something that will bother me until i put it right. despite that i think the experience did bring us together as did the shared aftereffects to a degree.
This is a trip report from the weekend just gone where myself and two friends tried out a combo i had been curious about for a while now, MDMA & 6apb.
I had done some web research on this combo including here on bluelight, and decided it was worth a try.
This is my first report so apologies for the rant that this my turn in to . . .
my drug experiences are by no means extensive, i have used cannabis on and off for the past 10 odd years and not touched anything else until last August when i took the dive and tried MDMA at a small UK Music festival, this was a revelation in its self and i have gone through something of a honeymoon period with MDMA ever since using it roughly 5 or 6 times. my MDMA use had always been with more experienced users so i always felt safe in doing it and being a bit obsessive about things spent many an hour reading up on safe use, dosage, pre loading, post loading and just about every trip report i could. as well as the MDMA i also fairly recently tried Ket which i liked and Coke which i did not. also the one and only time i bought random pills at rave they turned out to be what i suspect to be amphetamine, again didn't like that one bit.
6apb came into the picture after stumbling across it on a research chem site that will go unnamed after looking up MXE (after reading an article on the NME). I tried the 6apb a couple of times and found it to need more work than MDMA to produce a pleasant high, i.e. don't use it on a full stomach after smoking cannabis all night, things got a bit speedy!
all the substances consumed had been tested to validate their authenticity.
anyway enough rambling on to the report:
we have myself, male 27, friend 26, friends gf 23
Setting is friends apartment who i am visiting 100+ miles away from where i live.
prior to the evening i had good week of exercise, sleep and regulated my diet to include all those things that make MDMA that bit better, also taking 5htp capsules on the days up to but not including the night itself.
T-4HRS: the three of us shared a fairly light meal of Nachos and Fajitas, nothing to heavy and in plenty of time for it to not impede the effects.
T-2.5HRS: Played monopoly (thoroughly enjoyed as i won!)
T-0 (8:30PM) weighed out 100mgs of the 6apb each and went down the hatch bombed in rizla, opened some Vodka and mixers (the idea was to head out into town around 11ish and hit a few bars for the inevitable dance floor draw)
T+1HRS could be the vodka could be the 6apb but a warm feeling is felt fom the chest, friend confirms this. Start listening to music just sitting on sofa, conversation is easy as always between us.
T+2HRS Gearing up for going out the music sounds better, lights are more pronounced and energy definitely increased, at the time i put this down to excitement and atmosphere as the other two report no other effects felt.
T+2.5HRS Weigh out 60mgs of MDMA each which is also bombed in rizla, step out of the flat and head for a bar. light a cig as i get out which was very enjoyable and MDXX type effects are almost instantly felt. its quite cold out and a sharp fine rain is falling, feels very pleasant. a few moments later we hit the high street which has year round decorative street lights and again an MDMA type come up is felt nothing to overwhelming very nice. at this point i wonder what is causing this come up as it has only been a few minutes since the MDMA was bombed i conclude its the 6apb. walk into local bar, place is nice and darkly lit with not brilliant music playing but music non the less. place is semi full dance floor empty. grab a bottle of beer each and lurk at edge of dance floor chatting. at this point feel a bit edgy as my pupils are very obviously dilated, don't quite feel energy enough to dance yet but feeling more and more comfortable as more people fill the venue.
T+3HRS Bar filled up nicely so start to move around a bit, this brings on what i can only describe as the most intense MDMA come up i can remember, i usually dose 100-150mgs of MDMA so the low dose of 60 comes as a surprise. Euphoria, energy, confidence, the whole deal in full swing. Sudden urge for a cig leads us outside which melts into a blur, cig enhances come up even more Euphoria now beyond anything ever felt. head back in after a few mins to grab another drink. Friends gf is getting a bit wobbly on her feet so we opt to sit for a while. after a few moments of what was at the time a joyful blur we again head outside to try another bar, at this point myself and friend realise gf is too shaky on her feet to carry on and i become overwhelmed with empathy. not that it would be strange to care for someones well being as its his gf and my best friends gf. she was pretty much okay but high heels and hedonism must be a no no. feel very very inclined to make sure she's okay probably so much so that its irritating to her. at this point we decide to head back to the apartment. the decision is a welcome one, after being out for only a short while going back seems like a good idea already, mostly out of concern but partially the idea of just being with friends in a comfortable setting seems very appealing to me while this high.
T+3.5 HRS back in apartment come up still going strong as more and more rushes of energy / euphoria are coming on, i pop open the laptop for music and begin dancing like a fool, the next part is a bit blurry with all three of us quite clearly riding a big high some dancing & talking ensues for a period of time.
T+4HRS definitely peaked to a absurd high and level out at this point, the confusion of the come up gives way to a clarity that is welcome, despite this it only takes the right song or movement to flood my head with euphoria again, at this point i start to go through a few things in my mind, feelings of contentment give way to more serious issues that i tend to put to one side when sober, firstly my gf has no idea i use MDMA something i feel very guilty about but have my reasons for doing so, next i worry about my friends gf I'm with tonight, has she ever seen me when I'm not here to get high? again start to feel very bad about this but in an insightful, I'm going to mend my ways kind of feeling.
T+4.5 HRS Friend pops out for some cans, dancing less starting to feel a bit to warm so i sit and sip on a mountain dew. next four or so hours are spent listening to music and talking about all sorts and i can honestly say this was the most pleasant part of the evening, wouldn't say I'm coming down at all but steadying out to a very enjoyable state of mind. early negative feelings are forgotten for the time being. Loved up feelings are a plenty its all i love you's and happiness, i feel very content with the company I'm keeping and very happy for my friends as they make quite the couple, no awkward ness whatsoever at being the third wheel.
T+8 HRS Euphoria faded but contentment remains, speedy after effects of 6-apb creeping in, extreme bruxism has persisted for a while now. i think at about this point things began to wind down some what still very talkative though.
T+9HRS Body feels very tired despite no excessive dancing, mind feeling very speedy now. try to get some sleep to ill effect, probably manage 1-2 hours over the next 6 hours.
Next day: get up about 11am next morning feel very tired, no noticeable comedown per se just very very tired. spend the day / evening lounging around watching tv, feel very relaxed towards the end of the evening and sleep soundly the next night.
Following morning: awake to phone going off at about 10:30 decide its time to head home, friends are still asleep but get up just before i go. at this point i feel very reflective about the fridays nights events and a low creeps in like a delayed come down (or the tuesday blues coming in early) really don't feel like driving home.
Drive home is not fun feel pretty down due to the high of friday and the night time is a similar state of reflection, i suspect low serotonin contributes to lul in mood. seeing my gf picks me up she's excitement personified.
i write this report on the monday still feeling a bit meh, and have come to a few conclusions:
Firstly the combo itself - good grief it works, don't know how but the come up was less harsh than MDMA alone and the euphoria lasted considerably longer than on its own, probably contributed to the extended low. the speedy aftereffects are not good, on MDMA alone i can always sleep afterwards on this no chance. i think at a festival or rave the extended high could work quite well with some tinkering or the dosages.
next on drugs like these in general - i have always taken MDXX type substances while out, be its bars clubs raves or festivals and it was always a good night, this time however i taking it at a "at home" setting was a revelation with friends who i don't get to see as much as i would like, the lack of crowds, loud music and other distractions gave me a chance to enjoy the feeling on a more intimate level and the connections you feel at the time for me far outweigh using MDMA as a dance floor drug.
Finally i have decided after this night that my MDMA honeymoon is over, cant see myself doing it again for a long long time, while the connection you feel with others is amazing the low afterwards is not worth the high, there are things i want to address, like going to see my friend and his gf and not getting of my head, its not an impression i want to pass on and its now something that will bother me until i put it right. despite that i think the experience did bring us together as did the shared aftereffects to a degree.
