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MDMA/5-htp Ratio 1:1; Safe?

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I bought 4 molly caps from a friend for new year's. ended up not taking them due to friends not showing up. They are supposed to be about a quarter gram of mdma cut with 5-htp. The powder inside the caps weighs exactly .5 in all of them and I'm assuming he put slightly less than .25 of actual mdma in each one. That would mean there is probably 200 mg of mdma and 300 mg of 5-htp in each cap.

Obviously, I don't want serotonin syndrome and I can't do anything after the fact that he cut it with a seriously stupid compound. Is there anything I can do to extract the mdma without the 5-htp? Is it even safe to consume these?

Three people showed up with my friend who had already taken these. They looked really spaced out...more-so than a normal roll. They looked like they were about to experience seretonin syndrome as I've experienced it myself a couple times in the past.
 
i searched and couldn't find anything definitive so i started doing my own research. Apparently 5-htp is "slightly" soluble in water and mdma is "highly" soluble. Maybe if I dissolve the powder in water and filter through a coffee filter several times it would filter out a good amount of 5-htp?
 
Why do you suspect they were cut with 5-htp? Alot of people look spaced out when rolling. Obviously the guy who cut them is a dumbass!
 
I suspect they were cut with 5-htp because my friend TOLD me he cut it with 5-htp. I'm assuming so he could weigh the capsules better.

indeed..i don't know why people use active cuts. He was probably just assuming 5-htp was pretty benign when really, it can cause some major issues when combined with another seretonin releasing agent.
 
it was his first time buying some with the intention of selling i'm pretty sure. I don't know why you wouldn't believe me. He just used it to cut like 20 caps....thats not very much for a one time deal. Anyway anyone have any real experience with taking 5-htp and mdma at the same time?
 
Taking MDMA and 5htp together can lead to all sorts of problems and IMHO not worth the risk.
 
damn this sucks. i guess i will let you guys know how it goes after i try it. I guess it can't hurt to try my filtering idea. worse comes to worse it doesn't remove the 5-htp...

i probably will only take a quarter of a cap to be safe. its too bad he wasn't educated about seretonin syndrome. he ruined some awesome molly.
 
I think I may have come up with a solution! I found a document online stating that l-5-hydroxytryptophan is slightly soluble in water and insoluble in organic solvents.

http://www.linnea-worldwide.com/products/L5Hydroxy.pdf

I also did some research on the solubility of mdma in ethanol and water. It is highly soluble in both.

I plan to dissolve everything in 90% isopropyl alcohol and filter it through a coffee filter and dry. This will leave the insoluble impurities (5-htp) in the coffee filter and the mdma in the alcohol solution. All that's left is to evaporate. Voila; mdma without the stupid cut. Anyone see any mistakes in my logic?
 
dcraver877 said:
I think I may have come up with a solution! I found a document online stating that l-5-hydroxytryptophan is slightly soluble in water and insoluble in organic solvents.

http://www.linnea-worldwide.com/products/L5Hydroxy.pdf

I also did some research on the solubility of mdma in ethanol and water. It is highly soluble in both.

I plan to dissolve everything in 90% isopropyl alcohol and filter it through a coffee filter and dry. This will leave the insoluble impurities (5-htp) in the coffee filter and the mdma in the alcohol solution. All that's left is to evaporate. Voila; mdma without the stupid cut. Anyone see any mistakes in my logic?
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looks like a good idea to me. Might want to use something without isopropyl though, like grain alcohol/ever-clear
 
Sorry everyone but we really dont want to get into the discussion on using solvents etc

These chemicals can be very dangerous if not used correctly and not something to be attempted if you dont know what your doing.
 
I actually registered on the forum to confirm that your friend is an utter tart.

He should retire, effectively immediately, from messing with people's brains.

What your friend is doing is encouraging that which you've suggested, serotonin syndrome. If people die eating those, MDMA it's self will likely be the suggested cause of death. And, if they don't die, he'll likely go on to suggest to others it's a good thing to be cutting them with.

To split the two, you'd want to crush it all up into dust, then add water. The drug is water soluble, the 5-htp is not particularly soluble. So the drug will disappear into solution and you should be left with powder floating around; which will also start dissolving the more water you add and the warmer it is. Filter the two, through away the undissolved powered.

I realise some people want to take 5-HTP and other things at the same time to see what happens, but that should be done by someone who's had a lot of experience with how they should and shouldn't feel and who control the amounts themselves. Not randomly forced upon anyone eating the stuff.

Serotonin precursors with antidepressants alone can be enough to start making people go funny.
 
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