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Mdma 2-3 days before taking ayahuasca

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bwashwash

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Hey everyone. Ive done lots of looking on google all i can find is posts saying you shouldnt take mdma AFTER taking an MAOI but nothing for the other way around. I was wondering because i am going to a music festival 3 days before going to peru to take ayahuasca. I was wondering if it would be safe to take a small dose of mdma (august 9) and then take ayahuasca (august 12). I know it is a baaad idea to take mdma after taking an MAOI but would it effect me the other way around. The mdma would technically be out of my system but would it react with the MAOI in the ayahuasca brew. Any information would be greatly appreciated i am asking just to make sure i am staying save.

Thanks everyone.
 
How much MDMA are you planning on taking? The halflife values of MDMA and MDA could be checked to say something about how quickly they leave your system.
Personally I wouldn't even want a fraction of it left in me when I would go and do ayahuasca, but that is your call. Also what can be important is that MDMA depletes and exhausts you, and you would likely be setting yourself up for a suboptimal ayahuasca experience. Why not skip the occasion to take MDMA? There must be many more occasions at other times. People report that the best way to approach such things is to keep yourself relatively pure the week before taking ayahuasca. I don't mean anything esoteric by it, but taking MDMA would probably disqualify for that. ;)
 
The type of MAOI that is in ayahuasca is not contradicted with MDMA. If you search the vaults of erowid...MDMA/harmala is actually quite popular (and sounds damn good to me too).
 
I really think you are wrong. RIMA's may be different from irreversible MAO-A or MAO-B inhibitors and it is not like everybody dies from this but it is still dangerous. People have gotten away with combining MDMA and 2C-T-X compounds as well but that does not make it safe.

Here it is said that stimulants are still strongly contraindicated, although citation is needed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibitor_of_monoamine_oxidase_A

I read something similar on DMT nexus.

Sorry but it will take an ADD thread with explanations to convince me that this shouldn't be a problem.

This site states it is contraindicated to take MDMA and similar drugs within a timeframe of 48 hours before or after harmala:
http://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/drugs/nansnook3c/2976.html

The problem I guess is not that such RIMAs prevent the breakdown of MDMA, but of the flooding monoamines like serotonin. Badly 'contained' serotonin levels are pretty much what serotonin syndrome is about, but it does depend on individual sensitivity as well as the dosage of both drugs.
 
Thanks for the quick replies! I was only planning on taking 2-3 80mg capsules. The only reason i was even considering this is because everything is jammed into my short vacation and pure molly at a music festival is a beautiful experience. But if it means that it could mess with my first ayahuasca experience that im flying all the way to peru for its not seeming like its worth the risk. I will probably just stick with abit of bud for the show and stay clean a week before the trip minimum. I would love to hear everyones opinion on this topic though.
 
I wouldn't risk it. Assuming it's relatively safe, what's the point flying all the way to Peru to do Ayahuasca and then go into the experience with depleted serotonin levels?
Trust me, if the Ayahuasca is even remotely strong you'll want your brain chemistry to be as balanced as possible going into the experience.
 
I would wait on it, i mean how many times do you get to travel to Peru to take an Ayahuasca brew? Why not obstain? I would want to have the purest experience possible! :)
 
in my opinion if you are taking ayahuasca, you should be rested brain wise (drug wise) beforehand
 
Yeah rest your brain. DMT in all forms can be extremely unforgiving when approached in a less-than respectful fashion.
 
Most protocols for Ayahuasca require a week to two weeks prior of strict diet, abstinence, and yeah, resting your brain. Why risk it?
 
Sounds good everyone! Definately not gonna risk it id be pretty upset if i ruined a potentially amazing experience. If i smoked a little bit of bud at the music festival and just relaxed and took it easy would that be okay do you think?
 
bwashwash said:
Sounds good everyone! Definately not gonna risk it id be pretty upset if i ruined a potentially amazing experience. If i smoked a little bit of bud at the music festival and just relaxed and took it easy would that be okay do you think?
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Sounds like the right thing to do to me
 
It may not be dangerous, but an mdma hangover is not what you want to be going through when taking ayahuasca.
 
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