MDEA + dexy.

[suspecteg]

hey guys, just wondering whether you would advise against taking some dexy's in combination with mdea pills. hypothetically if i had mdea pills, which as far as im aware are fairly similar to mdma apart from slightly less empath + more glued to the seat. If i were to mix these pills with dexy's (which as far as im aware again are speed?) which will keep you up and going. so if i were to mix these two would i be feeling mdea effects + be up and energetic?

thankyou.

 

[Sameria]

Do you have any results from Australian pills Guru?

On the OP's question, yes you can do it, and yes, most people find it works great, but mixing MDMA/MDA/MDEA significantly increases neurotoxicity of both drugs. The comedown will also be a lot worse with both drugs in combination.

If you do choose to mix the two, make sure you have a good meal before hand, try not to exert yourself too much physically, keep the doses low and don't do it too often! Best to do this combination as little as possible.

 

[suspecteg]

ok, so in terms of neurotoxity - mdxx substances deplete your serotonin levels where as dexamphetamine deplets your dopamine levels - these two together is a bad mix (why?)

also, so take for example the supposed contents for the brown euro of 40mg mda + methamphetamine. this would have very similar effects both in terms of neurotoxity and effects as taking pure mda + dexys?

ty guys. (looking through my previous posts i have found that i already made a similar post which was about mdxx vs dex safety issues. so i guess this could be merged?)

 

[puckboy]

I've mixed ecstasy (MDxx) with dexamphetamine plenty of times and while it's fun and can make you not feel as munted and more 'dancey' (I know your referring to MDEA specifically though). I'd advise against it as any MDxx chems mixed with amphetamines is really bad for your head. I was doing the combination for a few years, somtimes methamphetamine instead of dex and I really feel it fucked my head up in a bad way for a decent while.

If your going to do it keep the usage really infrequent.

 

[Pegasus]

I'd recommend against this. If you want energy, I'd just stick with the dexamphetamine. MDE is weird stuff IME... It's basically a really intense come-up that goes away right when it feels it's leveling off. It can put me to sleep under some circumstances, too.

 

[suspecteg]

mmm, thanks guys.. but do you know exactly why it is bad for your head and what it does to your head that would normally not occur taking only the mdea or mdxx substance?

 

[puckboy]

mmm, thanks guys.. but do you know exactly why it is bad for your head and what it does to your head that would normally not occur taking only the mdea or mdxx substance?

I think (not entirely sure) it's something to do with the fact that the extra dopamine released by the amphetamines and the smaller amounts of dopamine that MDxx chemicals (like MDEA) also release are sucked up into serotonin transporters due to the fact your serotonin has flooded your brain already and it damages those cells. Also it raises your body temperature, heart-rate and blood pressure more then taking just one of the two drugs which would cause added stress to your brain/body. The combination is much worse for you then just taking one or the other imo. I hope that makes some sense. It'd probably be not too bad if you took a low dose of d-amp.

You'd also probably have a much worse comedown, atleast I always did if I mixed them.

Someone with a better scientific knowledge of the brain and how drugs act on it is probably better suited to answer your question.

 

[tyrael]

I think (not entirely sure) it's something to do with the fact that the extra dopamine released by the amphetamines and the smaller amounts of dopamine that MDxx chemicals (like MDEA) also release are sucked up into serotonin transporters due to the fact your serotonin has flooded your brain already and it damages those cells. Also it raises your body temperature, heart-rate and blood pressure more then taking just one of the two drugs which would cause added stress to your brain/body. The combination is much worse for you then just taking one or the other imo.

+1, that'll be my basic answer!

 

[MrIbis]

For reasons stated, avoid it - but if it was MDEA.. i wouldn't take it knowingly - i'd bin the fucking thing, or make sure i took some kind of social booster with it.. because without it, the intoxification is too much without the euphoria/energy.

Sure its toxic - but this is only brain chemistry we're talkin about here